It is not a democracy (especially not in Spain). There is not any country on the planet that subscribes to democracy in a classical - and practical - sense. Most governments that are described as 'democratic' are in fact republicratic; that is, the people elect reprisentatives who then (in a perfect world) carry out the will of the people on their behalf. In actuality, it usually equates to voters being forced to choose between one of several scumbags, none of which have their best interests at heart (unless those voters are also the CEOs of major corporations).
Sorry about the offtopic, but people using this line of logic annoy me. Also, forgive the probably horrible spelling and grammar here:P
because if none of you could shoot your guns, then none of you could continue shooting other Americans.
And by 'none of us', you really mean 'only the law-abiding citizens who won't go and get illegal weapons to shoot people with that still work perfectly fine', right?
FTA-... The system would undoubtedly cost more than a conventional gun, but many firearm enthusiasts would surely pay a premium for such added security.
The only 'firearm enthusiasts' who would 'pay a premium' for that sort of technology are avid firearm collectors who must absolutely have every firearm ever manufactured. But those sorts of people would buy a potatoe gun if it was manufactured by S&W.
I agree with quincunx, this is a PR tool for people who don't know any better and ammo for anti-firearm groups. Education is the solution to kids accidentally killing themselves or others with guns, not BS security measures. Of course, that isn't what this is about; more kids blowing themselves up equates to more fodder for the activists.
How is that flamebait exactly? Oh no, he pointed out a valid point about OO.
As an aside, people who replace the 'S' in MS or Microsoft with a dollarsign make themselves look like bigger tools than Microsoft itself.
I happen to support Bush in this particular case, yes, but I am by no means a Bush supporter. I support or oppose individual ideas, programs, and laws; not people or parties. Anyone who does otherwise is an idiot. In fact, I'm opposed to carreer politicians, but that's neither here nor there.
I disagree with Bush on the majority of his issues, including the war in Iraq (but not the war on terror as a whole), imigration reform, taxes, and so on. If what you're trying to get at is that I 'support Bush' because I didn't vote Democrat to make sure he didn't get another term, then you're living in some other universe or something.
Do your reasearch and don't believe everything you read in the papers. This program DID have congretional oversight and is perfectly leagal as a practical extention of the Patriot Act. Whether you believe the in the Patriot Act or that this program is doing any good is a different story entirely.
Also, who the fuck cares if the government is looking at Joe Sixpack's bank info? Oh no, he bought that Big Mac the other day, SEND IN THE AUTHORITIES. And don't start with bullshit slippery slope arguments, either. The fact is, that just like the alleged 'wiretapping' (which was nothing of the sort, and was an automated system designed to track international calls), this is not some insidious plot by the government to erode our civil liberties.
Personally, I'm more worried about where this security leak came from. Nobody seems worried about that, but this is a top-secret program. The NYT didn't just walk into the NSA or the DHS and say "So boys, slow news day; you got any secret programs we can bust the lid off of?" Someone here is involved in a huge breach of security, and this should constitute a much bigger flag going up than some imagined privacy rights being eroded.
And before you start with the Bush-bashing, I am a registered Libertarian and have voted 3rd party in every election in which I have voted.
It would give a whole new meaning to Eyes Only levels of secrecy.
Nanowire paper which is displaying encrypted data that can only be decrypted by someone with the correct processors in their eyeballs.
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It is not a democracy (especially not in Spain). There is not any country on the planet that subscribes to democracy in a classical - and practical - sense. Most governments that are described as 'democratic' are in fact republicratic; that is, the people elect reprisentatives who then (in a perfect world) carry out the will of the people on their behalf. In actuality, it usually equates to voters being forced to choose between one of several scumbags, none of which have their best interests at heart (unless those voters are also the CEOs of major corporations).
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Sorry about the offtopic, but people using this line of logic annoy me. Also, forgive the probably horrible spelling and grammar here
I find it hilarious that this is modded Insightful.
because if none of you could shoot your guns, then none of you could continue shooting other Americans.
And by 'none of us', you really mean 'only the law-abiding citizens who won't go and get illegal weapons to shoot people with that still work perfectly fine', right?
FTA- ... The system would undoubtedly cost more than a conventional gun, but many firearm enthusiasts would surely pay a premium for such added security.
The only 'firearm enthusiasts' who would 'pay a premium' for that sort of technology are avid firearm collectors who must absolutely have every firearm ever manufactured. But those sorts of people would buy a potatoe gun if it was manufactured by S&W.
I agree with quincunx, this is a PR tool for people who don't know any better and ammo for anti-firearm groups. Education is the solution to kids accidentally killing themselves or others with guns, not BS security measures. Of course, that isn't what this is about; more kids blowing themselves up equates to more fodder for the activists.
And I got modded down for saying so. Gotta love zealots.
How is that flamebait exactly? Oh no, he pointed out a valid point about OO. As an aside, people who replace the 'S' in MS or Microsoft with a dollarsign make themselves look like bigger tools than Microsoft itself.
I happen to support Bush in this particular case, yes, but I am by no means a Bush supporter. I support or oppose individual ideas, programs, and laws; not people or parties. Anyone who does otherwise is an idiot. In fact, I'm opposed to carreer politicians, but that's neither here nor there. I disagree with Bush on the majority of his issues, including the war in Iraq (but not the war on terror as a whole), imigration reform, taxes, and so on. If what you're trying to get at is that I 'support Bush' because I didn't vote Democrat to make sure he didn't get another term, then you're living in some other universe or something.
Do your reasearch and don't believe everything you read in the papers. This program DID have congretional oversight and is perfectly leagal as a practical extention of the Patriot Act. Whether you believe the in the Patriot Act or that this program is doing any good is a different story entirely. Also, who the fuck cares if the government is looking at Joe Sixpack's bank info? Oh no, he bought that Big Mac the other day, SEND IN THE AUTHORITIES. And don't start with bullshit slippery slope arguments, either. The fact is, that just like the alleged 'wiretapping' (which was nothing of the sort, and was an automated system designed to track international calls), this is not some insidious plot by the government to erode our civil liberties.
Personally, I'm more worried about where this security leak came from. Nobody seems worried about that, but this is a top-secret program. The NYT didn't just walk into the NSA or the DHS and say "So boys, slow news day; you got any secret programs we can bust the lid off of?" Someone here is involved in a huge breach of security, and this should constitute a much bigger flag going up than some imagined privacy rights being eroded.
And before you start with the Bush-bashing, I am a registered Libertarian and have voted 3rd party in every election in which I have voted.
It would give a whole new meaning to Eyes Only levels of secrecy. Nanowire paper which is displaying encrypted data that can only be decrypted by someone with the correct processors in their eyeballs.