Before you go spouting off, check out that very W3C committee and you'll see that Oracle is on it and a very active participant.
And if you had checked any of the other pages on the dbazine site you would have seen that the BMC and Oracle logos are part of a standard footer that is appended to all of the pages. Ever hear of advertising?
OK, I realize that this is kind of petty, but it has been one of those mornings. The !@#$% build is 4 hours late and people aren't checking their work before checking in code.
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I've read in a lot of these post where people claim "I just opend the bag and plugged it in. And I threw away the CD. So I I didn't use the software and therefore, I'm not bound by the EULA."
Well, what do you think is producing the datastream that you are grabbing? A microcontroller with some custom software. So while you didn't use the software on the CD, you are using Digital:Convergence's software. And any lawyer will argue that the EULA covers both end-user software and the software embedded in the barcode reader.
So bottom line, your screwed and bound by the EULA if you used the barcode reader.
The most recent entry for dpkg, the heart of apt, (cut and paste from it ) is Tue, 3 Dec 1996 23:28:04 by David Morris . The first entry is on Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:07:53 by Ian Jackson . And the first version of rpm can out in 1995. The MSFT application file date isn't until Nov. 14 1997. So I don't think that MSFT has a very good case with respect to prior art. In school this was called plagerism.
Even with the psuedo distinction of the Windows registry, a very good argument could be made to effect that the database that dpkg and rpm keeps are equivalent and therefore MSFT's "technology" does not constitute a new invention. Even the Apple patent might not have a leg to stand on.
Hey, RedHat! Hey, Debian! Are you going to challenge these patents?
By finding a way to apply this or libel law to accusations against private citizens, I think that this trend can be stopped or at least individuals can be provide with some protection.
The whole 6th Amendment reads:
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
The clauses that need to be applied are to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor.
Children are the current target of this threat but the scope of this could expand to cover everybody.
Peer review comes to main-stream journalism...
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Jon,
The process that you labeled the "Slashdot Interval" is also known as peer-review. It is defines the process of publishing articles in almost all (if not all) scientific journals.
The interesting problem is: how do we bring the rigor of peer review to main-stream journalism? (BTW, Slashdot is an example of that process in action.)
Whether or not someone is "Team player" is relative. Think not, then think of all those pro athletes that struggle under one coach but then blossom when traded.
I've been a manager and right now I'm a grunt. I baled from managing because of two things 1) I had some architectural ideas that I wanted to play with and 2) I wasn't getting support from my manager who just wanted to play it safe. I might go back to managing, I might not; only time and opportunity will tell.
I don't know who raster's manager was nor do I care but I will hazard a guess that s/he is a first time manager, has had no formal training on how to manage and/or might be a living embodiment of the peter principle. On the flipside, raster might have been able to better manage up.
The sad thing is that this event is generating so much bad publicity. I think that the uber-manager should have realized that there was something up and reined in front-line manager because good talent is more important mediocre management. As it is now, RH is going to have to spend a fair amount of time and energy rebuilding any bridges that have been burnt.
Slashdot Mirror
Before you go spouting off, check out that very W3C committee and you'll see that Oracle is on it and a very active participant.
And if you had checked any of the other pages on the dbazine site you would have seen that the BMC and Oracle logos are part of a standard footer that is appended to all of the pages. Ever hear of advertising?
Ya gotta do better if you're going to troll.
Doing my best Russle Baker...
The phrase in the article...
should be
OK, I realize that this is kind of petty, but it has been one of those mornings. The !@#$% build is 4 hours late and people aren't checking their work before checking in code.
</rant>
I've read in a lot of these post where people claim "I just opend the bag and plugged it in. And I threw away the CD. So I I didn't use the software and therefore, I'm not bound by the EULA."
Well, what do you think is producing the datastream that you are grabbing? A microcontroller with some custom software. So while you didn't use the software on the CD, you are using Digital:Convergence's software. And any lawyer will argue that the EULA covers both end-user software and the software embedded in the barcode reader.
So bottom line, your screwed and bound by the EULA if you used the barcode reader.
The most recent entry for dpkg, the heart of apt, (cut and paste from it ) is Tue, 3 Dec 1996 23:28:04 by David Morris . The first entry is on Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:07:53 by Ian Jackson . And the first version of rpm can out in 1995. The MSFT application file date isn't until Nov. 14 1997. So I don't think that MSFT has a very good case with respect to prior art. In school this was called plagerism.
Even with the psuedo distinction of the Windows registry, a very good argument could be made to effect that the database that dpkg and rpm keeps are equivalent and therefore MSFT's "technology" does not constitute a new invention. Even the Apple patent might not have a leg to stand on.
Hey, RedHat! Hey, Debian! Are you going to challenge these patents?
The whole 6th Amendment reads:
The clauses that need to be applied are to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor.
Children are the current target of this threat but the scope of this could expand to cover everybody.
The process that you labeled the "Slashdot Interval" is also known as peer-review. It is defines the process of publishing articles in almost all (if not all) scientific journals.
The interesting problem is: how do we bring the rigor of peer review to main-stream journalism? (BTW, Slashdot is an example of that process in action.)
latham
I've been a manager and right now I'm a grunt. I baled from managing because of two things 1) I had some architectural ideas that I wanted to play with and 2) I wasn't getting support from my manager who just wanted to play it safe. I might go back to managing, I might not; only time and opportunity will tell.
I don't know who raster's manager was nor do I care but I will hazard a guess that s/he is a first time manager, has had no formal training on how to manage and/or might be a living embodiment of the peter principle. On the flipside, raster might have been able to better manage up.
The sad thing is that this event is generating so much bad publicity. I think that the uber-manager should have realized that there was something up and reined in front-line manager because good talent is more important mediocre management. As it is now, RH is going to have to spend a fair amount of time and energy rebuilding any bridges that have been burnt.