sorry but those numbers are skewed... indias current GDP is somewhere around 2.8 and US sustained GDP over past few years not takin war into account is 3.0
Aah how first world of us to think everyone in the world has a fat pipe running into their homes : )
I presume since this is a South Africa specific initiative it makes sense mailing them (the "I want to give it a try" folk) the cds but I agree a download option wouldn't hurt!
Also what does the CD contain, really how can the site be of any value if they won't tell the people who want to try OSS what comes on the CD and how is it useful to the users!?!
Who the hell hasn't moderated this up as one of the more informative/non-troll postings on this topic!!! Then again this has become a teen-/.-ers play pen which I insist on visiting quite a few times every day : )
I'm from India, I did my undergrad in the US and have worked here for about 5 years (still paying off my loans : ), and I appreciate and agree with your post/comments.
I do have a different take on some of the points you bring up: 1. Externality as you/your professor phrase it, is a definite (or so I'm told from my readings/lectures by not just tech companies but also by economists and academicians) based on the type of capitalism that is practiced in the US. 2. (Actually a continuation from 1) Legislation also needs to have it's cost-benefit analyzed. The US (or should I say US corporations) has (have) been at the forefront of de-legislating in many countries for many many years now and if they reverse their ideologies then will the companies and the politicians in the US thereby accept the losses that this entails (financially and in international political clout)?
Out sourcing has a societal effect that most coporations AND politicians refuse to recognize. As a foreigner in the US I am affected by it too, maybe not right now but will be in the future. I am fully aware that there will come a day when my services in the US wil not be needed (or there will be legislation against my type of job-whores : ) I will then need to be ready to take my skills elsewhere. Back to India? I don't know but I have no problems moving anywhere I will be valued.
Most Americans I've worked with or have had the pleasure of knowing are equally skilled if not more in comparison to the people taking their jobs over-seas, the issue as your professor points out is that the cost of maintaining a work force in the US is A LOT more in the US than in a lower-cost economy. I appreciate you not driving the usual hammer that these countries are just brainless mules, there are mules everywhere aye? : )
Solutions? I am all for isolationism (I understand the fears and the insecurities this evil out sourcing and job-whore like me have brought about) but will that help/allow in maintaining the same standard of living in this country? What little I remember from my economics class mathematically proved that it wouldn't...aaah how do you solve this puzzle? Take up a Canadian style system of govt and capitalism, i.e. accept a mediocre economy for stability (a mix of capitalism and socialism?) personally I think as long as politics and corporations (big money) are allowed to sleep together there will not be a solution for Joe Average (even a techie elite one).
~ ps. if this ended up as a rant I blame the beer, cheers : )
Just cause Ximian does what they do (and very well I may add) doesn't mean all of linux has to (imho). Ximian could just be the base for a public distro (?) with it's ease of use, slick look, and great design (it still has some quirks though which need to be ironed out).
I've used the ximian desktop, red carpet, and evolution and love them all!!! I had this setup running at home for my parents and they loved it, had to run doze after sometime since they needed to use a doze program for some exam (and no I don't have enough resources to run wine : )
Ranting on...I wish there was Dreamweaver for the pengbox and I'd have no problem getting the boss to approve pengboxs as desktops at work.
The music/movie industry seems to be going after napster and co one after the other, with the money and clout they weld who can and will stand upto them? We can look forward to corporate networks serving you movies/music for monthly charges continuing their shrink wrap monopolies.
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sorry but those numbers are skewed... indias current GDP is somewhere around 2.8 and US sustained GDP over past few years not takin war into account is 3.0
Please bring attention to dihydrogen monoxide!!!
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http://www.dhmo.org/dihydrogen-monoxide/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c
I heard diesel coagulates in cold weather, any comments?
Aah how first world of us to think everyone in the world has a fat pipe running into their homes : )
I presume since this is a South Africa specific initiative it makes sense mailing them (the "I want to give it a try" folk) the cds but I agree a download option wouldn't hurt!
Also what does the CD contain, really how can the site be of any value if they won't tell the people who want to try OSS what comes on the CD and how is it useful to the users!?!
Who the hell hasn't moderated this up as one of the more informative/non-troll postings on this topic!!! Then again this has become a teen-/.-ers play pen which I insist on visiting quite a few times every day : )
I'm from India, I did my undergrad in the US and have worked here for about 5 years (still paying off my loans : ), and I appreciate and agree with your post/comments.
I do have a different take on some of the points you bring up:
1. Externality as you/your professor phrase it, is a definite (or so I'm told from my readings/lectures by not just tech companies but also by economists and academicians) based on the type of capitalism that is practiced in the US.
2. (Actually a continuation from 1) Legislation also needs to have it's cost-benefit analyzed. The US (or should I say US corporations) has (have) been at the forefront of de-legislating in many countries for many many years now and if they reverse their ideologies then will the companies and the politicians in the US thereby accept the losses that this entails (financially and in international political clout)?
Out sourcing has a societal effect that most coporations AND politicians refuse to recognize. As a foreigner in the US I am affected by it too, maybe not right now but will be in the future. I am fully aware that there will come a day when my services in the US wil not be needed (or there will be legislation against my type of job-whores : ) I will then need to be ready to take my skills elsewhere. Back to India? I don't know but I have no problems moving anywhere I will be valued.
Most Americans I've worked with or have had the pleasure of knowing are equally skilled if not more in comparison to the people taking their jobs over-seas, the issue as your professor points out is that the cost of maintaining a work force in the US is A LOT more in the US than in a lower-cost economy. I appreciate you not driving the usual hammer that these countries are just brainless mules, there are mules everywhere aye? : )
Solutions? I am all for isolationism (I understand the fears and the insecurities this evil out sourcing and job-whore like me have brought about) but will that help/allow in maintaining the same standard of living in this country? What little I remember from my economics class mathematically proved that it wouldn't...aaah how do you solve this puzzle? Take up a Canadian style system of govt and capitalism, i.e. accept a mediocre economy for stability (a mix of capitalism and socialism?) personally I think as long as politics and corporations (big money) are allowed to sleep together there will not be a solution for Joe Average (even a techie elite one).
~
ps. if this ended up as a rant I blame the beer, cheers : )
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Just cause Ximian does what they do (and very well I may add) doesn't mean all of linux has to (imho).
Ximian could just be the base for a public distro (?) with it's ease of use, slick look, and great design (it still has some quirks though which need to be ironed out).
I've used the ximian desktop, red carpet, and evolution and love them all!!! I had this setup running at home for my parents and they loved it, had to run doze after sometime since they needed to use a doze program for some exam (and no I don't have enough resources to run wine : )
Ranting on...I wish there was Dreamweaver for the pengbox and I'd have no problem getting the boss to approve pengboxs as desktops at work.
"RIAA Sues Audiogalaxy"
The music/movie industry seems to be going after napster and co one after the other, with the money and clout they weld who can and will stand upto them? We can look forward to corporate networks serving you movies/music for monthly charges continuing their shrink wrap monopolies.