When I was working as a PC support person, I used to get calls that "My PC won't boot". I got so many of these calls that I would have the work order already written up and ready to sign. When I arived, I would see the usual "no ROM basic" on the screen, eject the floppy, and have the user sign the work order.
Two seconds a call, looks like I get to go home early having met my quota for tickets for the day!
I have been following this whole SCO thing from the beginning, as we all have. The question that I have is this:
If there is SCO code in the kernel, then why doesn't someone remove it and replace it with non-SCO code?
It seems to me that if the contested code were removed, then SCO would have nothing to stand on. With the speed of the open source community, it would seem that this could be done fairly quickly and painlessly.
But then there is the millions of servers and workstations out there that would need to be patched.
They don't have the right to do anything that their parents don't let them do. They are not adults with rights until the age of 18. They don't have the right to evem complain about it.
Do I agree with the content of the article, No, but then I could only read half of it before I became tired of it. Do I like flamers, No, but that is what filters are for!
If I don't like what you have to say, I ignore you. As far as I am concerned, an individual has the right to behave and say however/whatever they want to. That is, as long as they do not voilate another individual's rights doing so.
So, as flaming does not violate anothers rights, flame away! After all, the only thing that it does to me is makes my filter list longer!
I thought that an electron was pretty stable. I thought that you needed chaos to store data. Is instability a result of chaos? I don't want my electrons crashing just when I need the data.
>From time to time, we test and re-evaluate various aspects of our web
site to determine which characteristics drive customer purchases and
satisfaction. We've learned that certain aspects of our site resonate
with customers in different ways, and we are continually fine-tuning
our presentation--site design, layout, price, customer reviews--to
provide our customers with the greatest value, selection, and
information for their online purchasing decisions.
These tests are conducted for a brief period during which certain
sections of our web site will appear differently to randomly selected
Amazon.com customers. Price is one aspect we may test, and
accordingly, that means that some customers may pay a different price
for select items. However, please bear in mind that the discounts we
offer on items in our catalog do vary even when we are not testing our
site.
I hope that I have been able to address your concerns. We value your
business and look forward to serving you again in the near future.
I guess, fundamentaly you are correct. The companys have the right to charge whatever they want for items, and charge different people different amounts. As long as they TELL customers they are doing it. Isn't there a law about this somewhere?
By the way, customers also have the right to shop elsewhere, or not use open source software. The greatest freedom is the right to choose.
Make sure to tell Amazon how you fell about their "experiment". Send an e-mail to feedback@amazon.com. I did. I don't feel any better, but I did inform them that I will no longer be shopping on their website. I have spent more than $1000.00 there this year.
Exactly. If the situation were reversed, and the class forced the students into using only an open source or Linux enviroment, you would all applaud them. However, I happen to agree with you. I feel that in order to have a stable working knowledge, you must start with nothing, and work your way to using tools that write protions of your code for you. It's like teaching math in grade shcool, and handing the kids a calculator, and letting them "learn" on it. They are not learning to solve the problem, they are learning to generate correct answers.
Before you get a Maxtor, take a look at IBM's 75GXP Deskstars. The highest capacity is only 75GB, but 7200 RPM and ATA100 make it worthwhile. I have 2 of these, and they are FAST!!! And, since I have an Intel motherboard, the BIOS supports them just fine, with no BIOS upgrade.
I, for one, am not happy about this. SCO was the first UNIX that I was able to work on. This was due to the fact that the OS was free for personal use. All you had to do was pay for the media. This was the first comapany that I was aware of that offered this. Oh well, if you don't follow the industry, you will fail.
When are the citizens of this coutry going to realize that the Federal Government is out of control? We have them writing laws regarding internet stalking, when stalking is already illegal, kidnapping children at gunpoint, and generally running amok on your rights. I urge everyone to participate in government, and make your voice heard. E-mail your Congressman whenever you hear about something that you don't like, and they will notice. The Government needs to be reminded that they are not our leaders, but our servants given a job by us, to run the country as WE see fit.
I, as I'm sure that many of you, have several free e-mail accounts in several locations. These accounts are used when I don't wish to provide my actual personal information. I feel that this is a great way to protect my privacy, and the very notion that a commity should dictate the common sense of protecting my information is a invasion of my privacy. The key to success in an alter ego is consistency, use the same information all the time.
The real reason for all the extra packaging is pure marketing. The bigger the box, the higher the visibility. I don't like the packaging for a personal reason. I like to keep everything in the box it came in, and put it on by bookshelf. Odd size boxes sometimes don't even fit in the bookshelf. Personally, I like the DVD Video packaging the best. There is plenty of room in there for the CD, and any paper the software would require, and it would be a nice uniform size for storage.
I have been reading and participating in online discussions ever since I aquired my first modem in the mid 80's. I was quite young, and rough around the edges. I had not yet learned the value of listening to other peoples opinions. At times I found joy in the occasional flame. I realized that eventually the original poster would get around to reading my reply, and would get angry.
I think that some of this arises from the inability to convey emotion with your thoughts on paper. The verbal inflections that convey sarcasm are impossible to convey on paper. This led to the emoticons;). I feel that allot of anger is the result of misinterpretation of written statements.
I have also experienced this with people who haven't developed keen social skills. I sure everyone has met someone who was not good at speaking. Thier tone of voice when attempting innocent ribbing can be mistaken for a personal attack, when it is not intended that way.
Another possibility is that when confronted with someone who has a great deal of debating experience, the "defender" is not prepared to have all his arguments systematically shot down. This goes was back to the Ford vs. Chevy, PC vs. Mac, and now the Linux vs. Microsoft debates. These are all emotional feelings about a product that people can feel very strongly about. I work in the technology industry, and have had many confrontations on the Linux vs. MS front. These stem from some loyalty and comfort that has developed between the user and the product, and they run deep.
It seems strange that in this age people want change, but are still apprehensive about it. We all need to remember to respect others opinions!
They did not get out of the handgun market. they simply focused thier attention on their "classic" models of guns. Reason - Insurance costs too high. Reason - people suing them for people misusing their prouct to kill people. Me = way, way off topic, but you hit my hot button.
I completely agree with the gun analogy. I own several guns that were all aquired legally, and I also have several programs written for ompromising computer security. I use my guns for hunting and home protection, and I use my software for auditing my own security, and learning. I do not have the time or knowledge to code these programs myself. What I need is a quick and reliable solution that will give me reasonable assurance that my systems cannot be compromised by someone using this software. It is time for this country of ours to stop people from blaming others for their misfortune. But, I digress. In summary, I believe that blaming the author of malicious software is just a wrong as suing gun manufacturers.
I happen to own one of the 600 series notebooks. The "modem" leaves much to be desired no matter what operating system is on it. These notebooks were issued to us by our company, so I had no choice as to which notebook we would use. When I recieved the machine I knew it would have Windows "something" on it, which turned out to be Windows NT. I was looking forward to setting up dual-booting on the machine so I could use Linux, and still have NT for the propriatary Win32 apps our company uses. After recieving my wonderful new laptop, I discovered that the serial port didn't work. After a great deal of effort I was eventually able to get it running, as it is essential to my job that I have a functional serial port. After that, I was never able to get a connection with the modem above 33.6! After a trip to IBM's web site I was able to download an upgrade for it, now it seems to connect mostly at 44-46. This still is not as good as my Courier, which effortlessly connects at a consistent 49 over the same phone line to the same ISP. As far as I am concerned, IBM should remove the modem, and let us choose what we want to use in our PCMCIA slot!
Looks like just another case of irresponsible parents blaming the world. I am sick of hearing about this kind of think. Where were the parents when all this innapropriate material was bieng viewed. They are responsible, not Hollywood, video games, or the Internet.
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When I was working as a PC support person, I used to get calls that "My PC won't boot". I got so many of these calls that I would have the work order already written up and ready to sign. When I arived, I would see the usual "no ROM basic" on the screen, eject the floppy, and have the user sign the work order.
Two seconds a call, looks like I get to go home early having met my quota for tickets for the day!
I have been following this whole SCO thing from the beginning, as we all have. The question that I have is this:
If there is SCO code in the kernel, then why doesn't someone remove it and replace it with non-SCO code?
It seems to me that if the contested code were removed, then SCO would have nothing to stand on. With the speed of the open source community, it would seem that this could be done fairly quickly and painlessly.
But then there is the millions of servers and workstations out there that would need to be patched.
Truth = KIDS HAVE NO RIGHTS!!!
They don't have the right to do anything that their parents don't let them do. They are not adults with rights until the age of 18.
They don't have the right to evem complain about it.
Do I agree with the content of the article, No, but then I could only read half of it before I became tired of it. Do I like flamers, No, but that is what filters are for!
If I don't like what you have to say, I ignore you. As far as I am concerned, an individual has the right to behave and say however/whatever they want to. That is, as long as they do not voilate another individual's rights doing so.
So, as flaming does not violate anothers rights, flame away! After all, the only thing that it does to me is makes my filter list longer!
Right up until the point where they find out that you used Windows NT as a router.
I thought that an electron was pretty stable. I thought that you needed chaos to store data. Is instability a result of chaos? I don't want my electrons crashing just when I need the data.
My reply from my e-mail to Amazon:
Thank you for writing to us at Amazon.com.
>From time to time, we test and re-evaluate various aspects of our web
site to determine which characteristics drive customer purchases and
satisfaction. We've learned that certain aspects of our site resonate
with customers in different ways, and we are continually fine-tuning
our presentation--site design, layout, price, customer reviews--to
provide our customers with the greatest value, selection, and
information for their online purchasing decisions.
These tests are conducted for a brief period during which certain
sections of our web site will appear differently to randomly selected
Amazon.com customers. Price is one aspect we may test, and
accordingly, that means that some customers may pay a different price
for select items. However, please bear in mind that the discounts we
offer on items in our catalog do vary even when we are not testing our
site.
I hope that I have been able to address your concerns. We value your
business and look forward to serving you again in the near future.
Best regards,
Kim H.
Amazon.com
Earth's Biggest Selection
I guess, fundamentaly you are correct. The companys have the right to charge whatever they want for items, and charge different people different amounts. As long as they TELL customers they are doing it. Isn't there a law about this somewhere?
By the way, customers also have the right to shop elsewhere, or not use open source software. The greatest freedom is the right to choose.
Make sure to tell Amazon how you fell about their "experiment". Send an e-mail to feedback@amazon.com. I did. I don't feel any better, but I did inform them that I will no longer be shopping on their website. I have spent more than $1000.00 there this year.
Exactly. If the situation were reversed, and the class forced the students into using only an open source or Linux enviroment, you would all applaud them. However, I happen to agree with you. I feel that in order to have a stable working knowledge, you must start with nothing, and work your way to using tools that write protions of your code for you. It's like teaching math in grade shcool, and handing the kids a calculator, and letting them "learn" on it. They are not learning to solve the problem, they are learning to generate correct answers.
Before you get a Maxtor, take a look at IBM's 75GXP Deskstars. The highest capacity is only 75GB, but 7200 RPM and ATA100 make it worthwhile. I have 2 of these, and they are FAST!!! And, since I have an Intel motherboard, the BIOS supports them just fine, with no BIOS upgrade.
I, for one, am not happy about this. SCO was the first UNIX that I was able to work on. This was due to the fact that the OS was free for personal use. All you had to do was pay for the media. This was the first comapany that I was aware of that offered this. Oh well, if you don't follow the industry, you will fail.
This was not intended as a comment on the morality of returning a child to his father, but a reflection on how the government handled it.
When are the citizens of this coutry going to realize that the Federal Government is out of control? We have them writing laws regarding internet stalking, when stalking is already illegal, kidnapping children at gunpoint, and generally running amok on your rights. I urge everyone to participate in government, and make your voice heard. E-mail your Congressman whenever you hear about something that you don't like, and they will notice. The Government needs to be reminded that they are not our leaders, but our servants given a job by us, to run the country as WE see fit.
I, as I'm sure that many of you, have several free e-mail accounts in several locations. These accounts are used when I don't wish to provide my actual personal information. I feel that this is a great way to protect my privacy, and the very notion that a commity should dictate the common sense of protecting my information is a invasion of my privacy. The key to success in an alter ego is consistency, use the same information all the time.
The real reason for all the extra packaging is pure marketing. The bigger the box, the higher the visibility. I don't like the packaging for a personal reason. I like to keep everything in the box it came in, and put it on by bookshelf. Odd size boxes sometimes don't even fit in the bookshelf. Personally, I like the DVD Video packaging the best. There is plenty of room in there for the CD, and any paper the software would require, and it would be a nice uniform size for storage.
This movie would make a great object for ridicule on Mystery Science Theatre!
I have been reading and participating in online discussions ever since I aquired my first modem in the mid 80's. I was quite young, and rough around the edges. I had not yet learned the value of listening to other peoples opinions. At times I found joy in the occasional flame. I realized that eventually the original poster would get around to reading my reply, and would get angry.
;). I feel that allot of anger is the result of misinterpretation of written statements.
I think that some of this arises from the inability to convey emotion with your thoughts on paper. The verbal inflections that convey sarcasm are impossible to convey on paper. This led to the emoticons
I have also experienced this with people who haven't developed keen social skills. I sure everyone has met someone who was not good at speaking. Thier tone of voice when attempting innocent ribbing can be mistaken for a personal attack, when it is not intended that way.
Another possibility is that when confronted with someone who has a great deal of debating experience, the "defender" is not prepared to have all his arguments systematically shot down. This goes was back to the Ford vs. Chevy, PC vs. Mac, and now the Linux vs. Microsoft debates. These are all emotional feelings about a product that people can feel very strongly about. I work in the technology industry, and have had many confrontations on the Linux vs. MS front. These stem from some loyalty and comfort that has developed between the user and the product, and they run deep.
It seems strange that in this age people want change, but are still apprehensive about it. We all need to remember to respect others opinions!
They did not get out of the handgun market. they simply focused thier attention on their "classic" models of guns. Reason - Insurance costs too high. Reason - people suing them for people misusing their prouct to kill people. Me = way, way off topic, but you hit my hot button.
I completely agree with the gun analogy. I own several guns that were all aquired legally, and I also have several programs written for ompromising computer security. I use my guns for hunting and home protection, and I use my software for auditing my own security, and learning. I do not have the time or knowledge to code these programs myself. What I need is a quick and reliable solution that will give me reasonable assurance that my systems cannot be compromised by someone using this software. It is time for this country of ours to stop people from blaming others for their misfortune. But, I digress. In summary, I believe that blaming the author of malicious software is just a wrong as suing gun manufacturers.
I happen to own one of the 600 series notebooks. The "modem" leaves much to be desired no matter what operating system is on it. These notebooks were issued to us by our company, so I had no choice as to which notebook we would use. When I recieved the machine I knew it would have Windows "something" on it, which turned out to be Windows NT. I was looking forward to setting up dual-booting on the machine so I could use Linux, and still have NT for the propriatary Win32 apps our company uses. After recieving my wonderful new laptop, I discovered that the serial port didn't work. After a great deal of effort I was eventually able to get it running, as it is essential to my job that I have a functional serial port. After that, I was never able to get a connection with the modem above 33.6! After a trip to IBM's web site I was able to download an upgrade for it, now it seems to connect mostly at 44-46. This still is not as good as my Courier, which effortlessly connects at a consistent 49 over the same phone line to the same ISP. As far as I am concerned, IBM should remove the modem, and let us choose what we want to use in our PCMCIA slot!
Looks like just another case of irresponsible parents blaming the world. I am sick of hearing about this kind of think. Where were the parents when all this innapropriate material was bieng viewed. They are responsible, not Hollywood, video games, or the Internet.