If there was a passage in the GPL requiring money from companies using the code, how many companies would continue using it? For many companies, it would be just a reason to stick with Windoze. Others would consider the real alternatives to Linux, such as *BSD. Lastly, please don't call Red Hat proprietary software. All projects created at Red Hat are under the GPL. Red Hat contributions to preexisting projects are generally open-sourced (under the same license as the original package - we can't GPL a patch to XFree86). Yes, Red Hat does cooperate with companies making proprietary software (Oracle etc). We'd of course prefer to see GPLed versions of Oracle etc, but we're realistic enough to see that's not going to happen anytime soon, and don't you agree it's better to have a proprietary solution than no solution at all?
Let's not forget this is not the only thing Red Hat is working on. Yes, Red Hat is very interested in servers. And yes, Red Hat is interested in hackers and home users, as well. Some projects are, will always be, and have to be for certain groups only (how do servers advance from the contributions Red Hat makes to GNOME or KDE?), because different people have different needs - and Red Hat Linux is an all-purpose OS after all.
Just a speculation: Oracle's goal seems to be to drag people from other unices to Linux. So what do we need? Compatibility with those unices. Many other unices are using Motif/CDE as primary UIs...
Bind 8.2.2 is introducing a serious problem - it can't be exported from the US thanks to the RSA code. That's why we can't release updated packages right now. (Anyone in non-US downloading bind from ISC is exporting weapons, by the way).
*IF* this *WERE* to happen, it probably wouldn't change much for the community. Red Hat is all about open source, any theories that gcc would move to closed-source or that there would be a special optimizing version for Red Hat internal use only won't happen. Also Red Hat won't give SuSE, *BSD,... special broken versions of compilers. Red Hat is not Microsoft. I won't speculate on the future of Cygwin if Cygnus goes Red Hat for now - not until this becomes more than a rumor. Suffice it to say, none of the Red Hat employees here heard about the rumor before it was announced on/.
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Please send bug reports instead of just stating something sucks. If we don't know about a bug, we (quite obviously) can't fix it.
Here's the one and only true answer to the question: Nowhere. What other answer could you expect from people who leave their office (populated by male developers exclusively for now) only to go to sleep every couple of days?;)
X is the uniX windowing system... MacOS X is named after it because it's starting to be Unix... ActiveX and DirectX are Microsoft's fraudulent attempts to imply they're X11 compliant.;) X-Box is named after the system it'll be running once people start complaining about the missing Ctrl+Alt+Del keys. See, world domination is already there...;) You just have to interpret everything "correctly".;)
I've run some checks on it - LinuxONE *is* Mandrake 6.0, with the 2.2.9 kernel updated to 2.2.10 and mandrake-release replaced with linuxone-release, mandrake-desk replaced with linuxone-desk. The Windoze thing they're talking about has been in Mandrake for quite a while, as well. And no, it's not UMSDOS, it's a loopback device-driven ext2 filesystem within a FAT file.
Quite interesting point - it's probably part of the reason, but definitely not all of it. I, for one, still like watching the original Star Trek and TNG, as well as some (few) episodes of DS9 and Voyager. They're just not what TOS and TNG (I think both of them are pretty much timeless) used to be.
Come to think of it, I think there's still room for a series like the original Star Trek shows (speaking of TOS and TNG here). Intelligent stories that make people think. The only problem Star Trek is having right now is that the new shows are too different from the original ideas behind Trek (did any of the more recent DS9 episodes have a real message? If so, I just got too stupid to notice), and (definitely for me, probably for most of us) not as good. The problem is that they're doing a lot of stuff to "attract" more viewers - more special effects, bigger explosions, a Borg superficial people get interested in by just looking at her, not by knowing the character -- at the cost of the storylines. They may be attracting a new audience, but they're quickly losing people who liked the idea behind the older shows.
The Free Film Project (http://www.freefilm.za.org/) is trying to do a "Original Star Trek'ish" film at the moment - let's see what that gets us (and let's participate... It's opensourced!)
If you don't want to compile the kernel yourself, just wait a couple more days - we're aware of the release, and we're already building a kernel RPM that has the driver.
You probably got me wrong - I'm not saying they shouldn't have included Windows programmers in their survey. I'm just saying they should have asked everyone including Unix, BeOS and MacOS developers. For all of those, VB isn't available. Therefore, I don't believe it has 35% total. 35% among Windoze programmers, maybe.
I don't think this survey is representative. Anyone using a decent operating system can't use VB. I think they asked Windoze users only. Among them, VB *is* popular (for whatever reason), and might actually get 35%.
This is no different from doom (aside for the rating) - I wonder when people will start explaining violence with murderers thinking they're in "War in Heaven" and they were just ordered to commit crimes by whatever god they believe in. This happening is about as likely as someone committing a murder because he confuses doom with the real world. Maybe more likely - some people do tend to do weird things for religious reasons. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all religions are bad or something. As far as doing weird things for religious reasons, atheism is as valid a religion as all others).
Two bugs actually.;) First of all - "To increase odds - have fun" definitely doesn't work - I'm having fun 24 hours a day, 7 days a week (hacking Linux, of course;)). The side effect is that I close to never leave the office.;) So, s/increase/decrease/g might be a good thing in the HOWTO...
The second bug is that NC is not the only RH office... Going to Chapel Hill on a Friday would be rather expensive from the various parts of RH Europe.;)
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There were a couple of bugs in 6.1 (tight release schedule) - most of the known ones have been fixed by now. Did you download the updated boot images?
We're definitely including ext3, and experimenting with ReiserFS.
Oracle does *not* require Motif.
Besides, any other distributor can do the same - bundle their distribution with Oracle and some Motif.
Normal Red Hat Linux will continue not having Motif.
This is just for the oracle edition.
If there was a passage in the GPL requiring money from companies using the code, how many companies would continue using it? For many companies, it would be just a reason to stick with Windoze. Others would consider the real alternatives to Linux, such as *BSD.
Lastly, please don't call Red Hat proprietary software. All projects created at Red Hat are under the GPL. Red Hat contributions to preexisting projects are generally open-sourced (under the same license as the original package - we can't GPL a patch to XFree86).
Yes, Red Hat does cooperate with companies making proprietary software (Oracle etc). We'd of course prefer to see GPLed versions of Oracle etc, but we're realistic enough to see that's not going to happen anytime soon, and don't you agree it's better to have a proprietary solution than no solution at all?
Let's not forget this is not the only thing Red Hat is working on.
Yes, Red Hat is very interested in servers.
And yes, Red Hat is interested in hackers and home users, as well.
Some projects are, will always be, and have to be for certain groups only (how do servers advance from the contributions Red Hat makes to GNOME or KDE?), because different people have different needs - and Red Hat Linux is an all-purpose OS after all.
Just a speculation:
Oracle's goal seems to be to drag people from other unices to Linux.
So what do we need? Compatibility with those unices.
Many other unices are using Motif/CDE as primary UIs...
Can't we throw over this patent based on preusage?
I'm quite sure someone had this before yahoo...
Bind 8.2.2 is introducing a serious problem - it can't be exported from the US thanks to the RSA code. That's why we can't release updated packages right now. (Anyone in non-US downloading bind from ISC is exporting weapons, by the way).
*IF* this *WERE* to happen, it probably wouldn't change much for the community. ... special broken versions of compilers. Red Hat is not Microsoft. /.
Red Hat is all about open source, any theories that gcc would move to closed-source or that there would be a special optimizing version for Red Hat internal use only won't happen.
Also Red Hat won't give SuSE, *BSD,
I won't speculate on the future of Cygwin if Cygnus goes Red Hat for now - not until this becomes more than a rumor. Suffice it to say, none of the Red Hat employees here heard about the rumor before it was announced on
Please send bug reports instead of just stating something sucks.
If we don't know about a bug, we (quite obviously) can't fix it.
Here's the one and only true answer to the question: Nowhere. ;)
What other answer could you expect from people who leave their office (populated by male developers exclusively for now) only to go to sleep every couple of days?
X is the uniX windowing system... ;) ;) ;)
MacOS X is named after it because it's starting to be Unix...
ActiveX and DirectX are Microsoft's fraudulent attempts to imply they're X11 compliant.
X-Box is named after the system it'll be running once people start complaining about the missing Ctrl+Alt+Del keys.
See, world domination is already there...
You just have to interpret everything "correctly".
Ease of use doesn't make them crap. Putting out a distro without having done any work by themselves (it's an almost exact copy of Mandrake 6.0) does.
I've run some checks on it - LinuxONE *is* Mandrake 6.0, with the 2.2.9 kernel updated to 2.2.10 and mandrake-release replaced with linuxone-release, mandrake-desk replaced with linuxone-desk.
The Windoze thing they're talking about has been in Mandrake for quite a while, as well.
And no, it's not UMSDOS, it's a loopback device-driven ext2 filesystem within a FAT file.
It hasn't been released yet - but we have the PCI IDs and stuff - sndconfig, kudzu etc. will be ready as soon as the source is released.
Quite interesting point - it's probably part of the reason, but definitely not all of it.
I, for one, still like watching the original Star Trek and TNG, as well as some (few) episodes of DS9 and Voyager. They're just not what TOS and TNG (I think both of them are pretty much timeless) used to be.
Come to think of it, I think there's still room for a series like the original Star Trek shows (speaking of TOS and TNG here).
Intelligent stories that make people think.
The only problem Star Trek is having right now is that the new shows are too different from the original ideas behind Trek (did any of the more recent DS9 episodes have a real message? If so, I just got too stupid to notice), and (definitely for me, probably for most of us) not as good.
The problem is that they're doing a lot of stuff to "attract" more viewers - more special effects, bigger explosions, a Borg superficial people get interested in by just looking at her, not by knowing the character -- at the cost of the storylines. They may be attracting a new audience, but they're quickly losing people who liked the idea behind the older shows.
The Free Film Project (http://www.freefilm.za.org/) is trying to do a "Original Star Trek'ish" film at the moment - let's see what that gets us (and let's participate... It's opensourced!)
If you don't want to compile the kernel yourself, just wait a couple more days - we're aware of the release, and we're already building a kernel RPM that has the driver.
You probably got me wrong - I'm not saying they shouldn't have included Windows programmers in their survey.
I'm just saying they should have asked everyone including Unix, BeOS and MacOS developers. For all of those, VB isn't available. Therefore, I don't believe it has 35% total. 35% among Windoze programmers, maybe.
I don't think this survey is representative.
Anyone using a decent operating system can't use VB. I think they asked Windoze users only.
Among them, VB *is* popular (for whatever reason), and might actually get 35%.
This is no different from doom (aside for the rating) - I wonder when people will start explaining violence with murderers thinking they're in "War in Heaven" and they were just ordered to commit crimes by whatever god they believe in.
This happening is about as likely as someone committing a murder because he confuses doom with the real world. Maybe more likely - some people do
tend to do weird things for religious reasons.
(Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all religions are bad or something. As far as doing weird things for religious reasons, atheism is as valid a religion as all others).
Only in KDE 2.x
Two bugs actually. ;) ;)). The side effect is that I close to never leave the office. ;) So, s/increase/decrease/g might be a good thing in the HOWTO...
;)
First of all - "To increase odds - have fun" definitely doesn't work - I'm having fun 24 hours a day, 7 days a week (hacking Linux, of course
The second bug is that NC is not the only RH office... Going to Chapel Hill on a Friday would be rather expensive from the various parts of RH Europe.