Nope I sure don't, but I also do not like having to include 500 megs of code to be able to do anything.
Is there no fucking end to this "nanny state and let's put rubber baby buggy bumpers and fucking everything" just so some god damn fucking moron can play at being a programmer?
The world has sharp corners how about having an attention span great then that of gnat and pay attention to what you are doing? Now there's a novel concept!
But oh no, lets take a perfectly serviceable, and quite excellent language like SQL and wrap it in 500 megs of dumb down code so that idiots can play at being a programmer. How many people bitch on moan about the Linux kernel not being written in a language that is all warm and fuzzy so that joe sixpack can write drivers for it without knowing a thing about hardware and memory allocation and utilization?
No idiot, they did pointer match because it was blindingly fast and it had nothing to do with NIH, it had to do with good solid programming using the machine as efficiently as possible. I they build "web languages" that way today fucking/. it would not take for fucking ever and a rack full of servers,to do anything.
You are probably right, but have a look at these these from 600+ fucking kilometers!
Those are from a commercial satellite and fucking NASA can't do better when they are only 25 kilometers above the surface of the moon with NO ATMOSPHERE to get in the way?!
I can go on google MAPS, not google EARTH bu google MAPS and see my pickup truck in my driveway and see the ties down straps I have in the bed of it and this is the fucking best they can do from 25 god kilometers up??
Aircraft are all made as light as they can possibly be and still fulfill their design function. The skin of you typical general aviation four place single engine is about twice as thick as a bear can. Airliners are very very fragile as evidenced by whats left when they crash as the pretty much just shred into little shards of aluminum and about the only parts left intact are the engine cores and landing gear.
It will end up a curiosity since it has no real world application. Helicopters consume vast amounts of energy just to stay aloft, much less get any work done.
Just like the electric float plane featured ob/. it simply wont scale. The laws of physics and thermodynamics simply cannot be ignored.
Mass will always be a factor until we figure out an anti-gravity field or some other star treckian device to reduce our apparent mass we simply cannot get enough energy out of today's batteries or fuel cells -v- their mass.
I am a pilot and there are few people in the world besides us that really want this tech to work more then we do, but I am pretty darn sure I am going to be completely decomposed long before this ever happens.
Allow me to re-phrase.... "The lack of utility of using SSH or compiling the Linux kernel on their iPad matters not to them, at all, in any way what so ever. Moreover they have no concern given the lack of said utility, which as someone else correctly pointed out can be obtained, in the case of an SSH client, from iTunes. As to compiling the Linux Kernel, well when they figure out what that is, they still wont care."
An engineer is a professional practitioner of engineering, concerned with applying scientific knowledge, mathematics and ingenuity to develop solutions for technical and practical problems. Engineers design materials, structures, machines and systems while considering the limitations imposed by practicality, safety and cost.[1][2] The word engineer is derived from the Latin root ingenerare, meaning "to create". - Wikipedia
Anyone else have a definition they would like to bandy about?
Well perhaps if you DID take care of the ones who don't play by the rules by firing their asses people might think a bit more highly of you.
As long as your attitude is, "Oh billy Bob, he's just a good ol boy and even if he did beat that fellow a little while he was cuffed to bench so fucking what the nigger had it coming" then people will still look at you like a bunch of red necked idiots that we don't want in the gene pool.
Apples model is working just fine. The average retail consumer (read that as not geeks) could care less that they cannot SSH or recompile the linux kernel on the damn thing. It does what they want the most.
The non-average consumer of this device ( read that as - Kaiser Permanente and other large corporate consumers ) is really really happy with it. The can write and distribute their own programs for it, get programming support etc. etc. from Apple, distribute those programs from their very own little walled garden and keep the rank and file from installing god alone knows what and breaking the damn thing.
Geeks will find a way to jail break the thing so they can SSH, etc, etc, and try to re-compile the linux kernel on the damn thing because that is what geeks do.
I know ALL of the FOOS geeks out there want desperately for Apple to fail, but guess what kids, that aint gonna happen. Jail break that damn thing and have fun with it, but please stop bitching and moaning about Apples successful business model since it makes you sound like nothing more the babies.
Wow, I guess you have never really looked into how the book business works...
Contrast the current movie situation with books. If a book is new and I want it, I pay for it. I do this because I appreciate an author's work and my money pays them for that work and encourages them to do more. A fair percentage of what I give Amazon will really get to the author, so I feel like my actions matter in this case. I'm also fairly persuaded that money for music is more fairly distributed and the "product" is now no longer crippled with DRM. I'd be thrilled if they ever did that for books, it's really the only sticky point for giving money to Amazon.
You write a book. Take said manuscript to a publisher. The publisher thinks it will sell. The publisher does all kids of advance work from the editing, art and getting it into desktop publishing software to generate the final PDF file that goes to the printing house. The publisher then $pays$ to have the book's first run printed. This can be a lot of money if they think it will go large. The publisher then shops it to the major retail outlets and then fills the orders they get. Lets just say Amazon. Say 5000 copies are shipped to Amazon. The book doesn't go large it goes medium. Lets say they sell 2000 copies. At the end of a pre-determined time ( based on the contact ) Amazon then pays for what has sold and sends the rest back to the publisher for a full refund. So given 10 bucks a book that would be 50,000.00 of books that were shipped. 20,000.00 worth sold. Now 30.000.00 worth are shipped back and the publisher is stuck with them for a net loss of that same 30,000.00. Unless they can unload them to a discount chain for more then their cost they have just lost a good chunk of money.
The book business is scary crazy as far as the money goes. There is SO much at risk and that is why the love the idea of E-Books since their production cost is significantly lower. All in all I am betting it will probably be a wash since the only thing they don't have to do is pay the printing cost, they still have to do everything else.
Indeed! Vote with your wallet! If we were to stop going to movies, stop renting movies ( net flicks, local blockbuster or what ever your local equivalent is ) then they would start singing a different tune perhaps. The side effect of that is that there will be one shitload of people unemployed as a consequence but, well, every revolution has casualties yes?
Really? Care to guess a guess at the cost of an iPhone that had everything it is made from manufactured in say California a state that has some of the most stringent environmental laws in the entire world?
Yes I read TFA and understand what they are doing. What they are doing is reprehensible; however, they are trying fight their battle in the cheapest way they can and I can't really say I blame them. Going after everyone who pirates? You may as well try to hit the moon with a bottle rocket.
This all comes down to one thing and that is their constituents ( any of the *AA's ) rights to control their content. This is really pitting a small minority of people who pirate content against the will of the content producers and those people, rightly or wrongly depending on your POV, see it as losing control of a product they have invested hundreds of millions of dollars to produce and they are going to fight it any way they can since those who pirate do so any way they can. If leaning on an ISP can get the job done, then that is what they are going to do.
I don't know if Australia has anything like Common Carrier Status that exists in the US but if they do this should go away as it wends its way through the courts, if not then I can see this happening. While that is troubling, it is unfortunately a bed that those who pirate have pushed their ISP into. So once again they no one to blame but themselves.
We (the citizens of the world) have not given monopoly powers to content creators to maximize their profits nor to allow them to prevent or limit dissemination of their creations.
Yes you have. Your elected representatives are the ones who vote on those laws. If you don't like the way they are voting, the vote them out. If you can organize enough people who actually care and will not simply give up after 5 minutes things will change because elected representatives want to keep their jobs. Yes that sounds simplistic, but that is how it works. Get enough people elected who believe the way you do and you can change copyright, patent or anything else for that matter.
But the simple answer is, stop pirating content and they will stop taking you to court.
Regardless of peoples "I want it therefor since they are not providing it I will find a way to get it without their consent and give it away to all my friends" actions and attitudes the content is the property of the creators and it is their right to distribute it in the manner and time of their choosing and no one elses.
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Nope I sure don't, but I also do not like having to include 500 megs of code to be able to do anything.
Is there no fucking end to this "nanny state and let's put rubber baby buggy bumpers and fucking everything" just so some god damn fucking moron can play at being a programmer?
The world has sharp corners how about having an attention span great then that of gnat and pay attention to what you are doing? Now there's a novel concept!
But oh no, lets take a perfectly serviceable, and quite excellent language like SQL and wrap it in 500 megs of dumb down code so that idiots can play at being a programmer. How many people bitch on moan about the Linux kernel not being written in a language that is all warm and fuzzy so that joe sixpack can write drivers for it without knowing a thing about hardware and memory allocation and utilization?
XML, the answer to the question nobody asked.
How your average DBA wished they had any faith in the piss pore excuse for programmers they see these days.
You'll see idiots and geniuses get slapped by typos and inadvertent mistakes
And you think this bit of crap will prevent that? Sheeeesh are you really that naive?
No idiot, they did pointer match because it was blindingly fast and it had nothing to do with NIH, it had to do with good solid programming using the machine as efficiently as possible. I they build "web languages" that way today fucking /. it would not take for fucking ever and a rack full of servers ,to do anything.
You are probably right, but have a look at these these from 600+ fucking kilometers!
Those are from a commercial satellite and fucking NASA can't do better when they are only 25 kilometers above the surface of the moon with NO ATMOSPHERE to get in the way?!
I can go on google MAPS, not google EARTH bu google MAPS and see my pickup truck in my driveway and see the ties down straps I have in the bed of it and this is the fucking best they can do from 25 god kilometers up??
Yeah Yeah Yeah... I want a spell checker that can read my mind dammit! lol!
Aircraft are all made as light as they can possibly be and still fulfill their design function. The skin of you typical general aviation four place single engine is about twice as thick as a bear can. Airliners are very very fragile as evidenced by whats left when they crash as the pretty much just shred into little shards of aluminum and about the only parts left intact are the engine cores and landing gear.
It will end up a curiosity since it has no real world application. Helicopters consume vast amounts of energy just to stay aloft, much less get any work done.
Just like the electric float plane featured ob /. it simply wont scale. The laws of physics and thermodynamics simply cannot be ignored.
Mass will always be a factor until we figure out an anti-gravity field or some other star treckian device to reduce our apparent mass we simply cannot get enough energy out of today's batteries or fuel cells -v- their mass.
I am a pilot and there are few people in the world besides us that really want this tech to work more then we do, but I am pretty darn sure I am going to be completely decomposed long before this ever happens.
Why the fuck didn't they build the "Servicing Facility" on site. God Damned PhD's can't fucking do anything right.
Damn grammar Nazi!!!!
Allow me to re-phrase.... "The lack of utility of using SSH or compiling the Linux kernel on their iPad matters not to them, at all, in any way what so ever. Moreover they have no concern given the lack of said utility, which as someone else correctly pointed out can be obtained, in the case of an SSH client, from iTunes. As to compiling the Linux Kernel, well when they figure out what that is, they still wont care."
Better?
An engineer is a professional practitioner of engineering, concerned with applying scientific knowledge, mathematics and ingenuity to develop solutions for technical and practical problems. Engineers design materials, structures, machines and systems while considering the limitations imposed by practicality, safety and cost.[1][2] The word engineer is derived from the Latin root ingenerare, meaning "to create". - Wikipedia
Anyone else have a definition they would like to bandy about?
Well perhaps if you DID take care of the ones who don't play by the rules by firing their asses people might think a bit more highly of you.
As long as your attitude is, "Oh billy Bob, he's just a good ol boy and even if he did beat that fellow a little while he was cuffed to bench so fucking what the nigger had it coming" then people will still look at you like a bunch of red necked idiots that we don't want in the gene pool.
Do you have to jail break it to use it?
One more time for the good times...
Apples model is working just fine. The average retail consumer (read that as not geeks) could care less that they cannot SSH or recompile the linux kernel on the damn thing. It does what they want the most.
The non-average consumer of this device ( read that as - Kaiser Permanente and other large corporate consumers ) is really really happy with it. The can write and distribute their own programs for it, get programming support etc. etc. from Apple, distribute those programs from their very own little walled garden and keep the rank and file from installing god alone knows what and breaking the damn thing.
Geeks will find a way to jail break the thing so they can SSH, etc, etc, and try to re-compile the linux kernel on the damn thing because that is what geeks do.
I know ALL of the FOOS geeks out there want desperately for Apple to fail, but guess what kids, that aint gonna happen. Jail break that damn thing and have fun with it, but please stop bitching and moaning about Apples successful business model since it makes you sound like nothing more the babies.
We would have no problem getting the production line up and running, the issue is can we do it without running afoul of patents for chips or displays.
Wow, I guess you have never really looked into how the book business works...
Contrast the current movie situation with books. If a book is new and I want it, I pay for it. I do this because I appreciate an author's work and my money pays them for that work and encourages them to do more. A fair percentage of what I give Amazon will really get to the author, so I feel like my actions matter in this case. I'm also fairly persuaded that money for music is more fairly distributed and the "product" is now no longer crippled with DRM. I'd be thrilled if they ever did that for books, it's really the only sticky point for giving money to Amazon.
You write a book. Take said manuscript to a publisher. The publisher thinks it will sell. The publisher does all kids of advance work from the editing, art and getting it into desktop publishing software to generate the final PDF file that goes to the printing house. The publisher then $pays$ to have the book's first run printed. This can be a lot of money if they think it will go large. The publisher then shops it to the major retail outlets and then fills the orders they get. Lets just say Amazon. Say 5000 copies are shipped to Amazon. The book doesn't go large it goes medium. Lets say they sell 2000 copies. At the end of a pre-determined time ( based on the contact ) Amazon then pays for what has sold and sends the rest back to the publisher for a full refund. So given 10 bucks a book that would be 50,000.00 of books that were shipped. 20,000.00 worth sold. Now 30.000.00 worth are shipped back and the publisher is stuck with them for a net loss of that same 30,000.00. Unless they can unload them to a discount chain for more then their cost they have just lost a good chunk of money.
The book business is scary crazy as far as the money goes. There is SO much at risk and that is why the love the idea of E-Books since their production cost is significantly lower. All in all I am betting it will probably be a wash since the only thing they don't have to do is pay the printing cost, they still have to do everything else.
Indeed! Vote with your wallet! If we were to stop going to movies, stop renting movies ( net flicks, local blockbuster or what ever your local equivalent is ) then they would start singing a different tune perhaps. The side effect of that is that there will be one shitload of people unemployed as a consequence but, well, every revolution has casualties yes?
Really? Care to guess a guess at the cost of an iPhone that had everything it is made from manufactured in say California a state that has some of the most stringent environmental laws in the entire world?
Please refer to my reply to MimeticLie below.
Please refer to my reply to MimeticLie below.
Yes I read TFA and understand what they are doing. What they are doing is reprehensible; however, they are trying fight their battle in the cheapest way they can and I can't really say I blame them. Going after everyone who pirates? You may as well try to hit the moon with a bottle rocket.
This all comes down to one thing and that is their constituents ( any of the *AA's ) rights to control their content. This is really pitting a small minority of people who pirate content against the will of the content producers and those people, rightly or wrongly depending on your POV, see it as losing control of a product they have invested hundreds of millions of dollars to produce and they are going to fight it any way they can since those who pirate do so any way they can. If leaning on an ISP can get the job done, then that is what they are going to do.
I don't know if Australia has anything like Common Carrier Status that exists in the US but if they do this should go away as it wends its way through the courts, if not then I can see this happening. While that is troubling, it is unfortunately a bed that those who pirate have pushed their ISP into. So once again they no one to blame but themselves.
We (the citizens of the world) have not given monopoly powers to content creators to maximize their profits nor to allow them to prevent or limit dissemination of their creations.
Yes you have. Your elected representatives are the ones who vote on those laws. If you don't like the way they are voting, the vote them out. If you can organize enough people who actually care and will not simply give up after 5 minutes things will change because elected representatives want to keep their jobs. Yes that sounds simplistic, but that is how it works. Get enough people elected who believe the way you do and you can change copyright, patent or anything else for that matter.
But the simple answer is, stop pirating content and they will stop taking you to court.
Regardless of peoples "I want it therefor since they are not providing it I will find a way to get it without their consent and give it away to all my friends" actions and attitudes the content is the property of the creators and it is their right to distribute it in the manner and time of their choosing and no one elses.