Here's a couple clues for you all who freaked out about this, the world doesn't revolve around security announcements and none of these companies are obligated to tell anyone jack-shit about their security problems. Its not like these companies were quick to share security information with anyone before. People will continue to find security holes in products, both open source and closed, and big companies will continue to drag their feet fixing then. No big change here.
If your really looking for a corporate group to fear try
the World Economic Forum. A thousand of the most powerful CEOs, bankers, politicians, media moguls, etc. meet in Davos Switzerland every year to decide global economic policy, i.e. how to increase the flow of money from the lower and middle class to the upper class.
And as for the poster who suggested that Bill Clinton should be shot over this why don't you try moving to the Congo, the president was just shot and killed there today. Let us know in a year or two whether you enjoy living in a country where policy is made with a gun rather than through free and open debate.
The notion of rights is that there are some things that a majority of people MUST NOT be able to decide to have the government do. For example, even if 55% of people decide that Christian should be required by law, our stitution protects the rest of us from conversion by force.
Well actually you would only need about 5000 supporters to make that happen. (2/3) of the Congress would have to support an amendment, about 300 people, then a simply majority in 75% of the states, requiring apporximately 5000 state legislators give or take a few and boom those rights described in the first amendment are no more. Not to pick nits or anything...
but how do you know they'll grasp the idea of clicking a different button depending on what they want to do?
If they're that dense they will probably have trouble using even the most basic of applications as well. If they don't understand how to pick which button they need they probably won't understand when to use a word processor and when to use a web browser either, and personally I wouldn't want to use a computer targeted for this type of crowd.
If I have an idea for some small software program that might make enough money to support me and a few other programs, if it's any good RMS will swoop in an destroy my company.
They told me I was daft to start a small company that RMS could swoop in on and destroy, but I did it anyways. And RMS swooped in and destroyed it. So I built a second one, same thing. The third one fell over, burned down, then RMS swooped in and destroyed it just to really make a point. So I built a forth and a fifth, and the fifth one is still running, because we finally got smart and installed anti-aircraft guns on the roof, so RMS swooped in and BOOM-BOOM-BOOM and that was the last we saw of RMS.
Did you actually read the article header or did you just post?
Yes, it's the return of the IM Wars - we had covered this this past summer. Microsoft was in the right on this one - a standard does need to be made, by an industry-wide group.
People forget that the religious explanation should be replaced by the vastly more useful scientific one.
How is science more useful? Science will give me a way to take human life(guns, bombs, bio-toxins) or to save it(medication, better farming techniques) but it won't tell me which I should do. Does understanding the surrounding world really matter if I don't understand how to live in peace with my fellow man? Don't get me wrong, I love learning about the physical world, physics, chemistry, biology, all of it, but it doesn't mean squat if I use it to hurt people.
I take it you don't believe in God. What do you base your ethics on? It seems to me if you don't believe in God the most logical choice for a system of ethics is basically game theory, waying of the risks and rewards and making the choice which leaves you the best odds.
Mosts scientists beleive in the religion called "science" which is fundamentaly incompatible with Christianity.
How is it incompatible? Are you referring to the eternal faith vs. science argument? Well I have faith in God and I don't think science will ever prove or disprove his/her/its existance, but I don't think science will ever prove anything else either. Science is based on inductive reasoning which starts with a group of particular facts and forms a general conclusion. So if you went out and examined 5000 different mamals it would be logical to conclude that all mammals give birth to live young. Well then you find a duckbill platapus and your "proof" goes out the window. I'm not a philosophy major, so if you want to know more about this check out some works by David Hume.
Well I admit that I doubt God's existence about a million times more often than I doubt the existence of gravity, but they both play a role in my life and just because I have faith in science doesn't mean I can't have faith in God.
Thanks for the info, I'll have to look into that. Last I understood, PDC support was in alpha or beta and didn't implement trust relationships yet. For the project we were working on we needed trust relationships and ended up having to use NT even though we would have prefered Linux.
Well the way I see it MS has no business asking for open standards in instant messeging protocals if they have closed protocals in other forms of networking. In particular SMB, thats the protocal network neighborhood runs on. The Samba team has reverse engineered most of it, but the last time I checked Samba still couldn't be a Primary Domain Controller you have to buy NT if you want that. I haven't followed all this HTML stuff, but those MS extensions are they an open standard, I don't think so, someone correct me if I'm wrong. And their file formats for Office. MS thinks its of deathly importance that all IM clients should be able to talk to each other, but they don't think I should be able to read spreadsheets, databases, word-processing documents, etc on anything except their platforms. Really which is more important? Fscking hypocrits!!!
Regional locking means that a DVD purchased in one region, Asia perhaps, couldn't be played on a DVD player purchased in the USA. I don't know if the player just checks for a certain region code, meaning the player could just choose to ignore it, or if the actuall encryption is different, so the player would need the decryption keys for different regions to get by that. They do this because movies are released at different times in different parts of the world and they don't want people buying the DVD when its still out in the theatre.
Well what if C|Net put up Top Ten High School Pranks: #10 Jimmy Helger set fire to a trash can during lunch hour and cleared the school out for 2 hours. #9 Stevie Myers, not to be outdone, called in a bomb threat and get school cancelled for an entire day! Most people would see a problem with that as it encourages that type of behavior. I don't think most/.ers want to see more of those types of "hacks." I think most of us would rather hear about useful hacks, the creation of the personal computer, the Internet, the Linux OS. If young computer enthusists think that one becomes a "hacker" by defacing a website then all the talent they might have put into something great will goto waste.
Well the thing is that Y2K is going to hit first in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, then work its way west around the globe, the US is going to be one of the last countries hit by it. So there will be news reports of power outages in Mozambique, Turkmenistan, and other countries were they haven't spent as much/any money on solving this problem so people are going to start rioting and looting here in the US a couple hours before Y2K, cause the early bird gets the worm, or the new Sony widescreen, whatever trips your trigger. Then midnight is going to roll around and the power is going to stay on and there are going to be a lot of people running through the brightly lit streets of our great country holding consumer electronics that they don't own. The police will have to work a little harder that night rounding up the houdlums, but aside from that it won't be a big deal here in the US. In some other countries there will probably be some full scale uprisings.
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Its because MS wants to keep parts of the SMB protocal closed, so only WinNT can be used as Domain Controller. I can't stand those hypocrits at MS who want open standards in markets they don't control, IM and other chat programs, but have no problem with closed protocals on the stuff they control. They could at least have the balls to be open about what they're doing rather than spewing some crap about doing whats best for the consumer.
Well how bout this. The first time you start the email client, it generates a set of keys for you and registers your email address and your public key with the key server. It can prompt you for the key server's name or if this is a limited deployment it already has that info hardcoded and registers for you.
Well its also a nightmare to use sendmail, but most people don't know that even though they indirectly use sendmail. With a little coding PGP could be embedded in an email client to the point where most ordinary users wouldn't even know that it was there. The client would download public keys, from a central key server, based on the email address of the sender/reciever. It would be able to encrypt, decrypt, and verify automaticly.
Well I work in Systems Administration, the only experience I had before this job was working with my own Linux and NeXTStep systems and I'm making about $32K before taxes. I'm in the Durham, NC area and oh did I mention I'm just an intern. You might want to start sending out that resume.
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I hate to break it to you, but the clueful saw the first 50 posts saying this wasn't new.
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But then it takes away the right to keep the changes to yourself. So much for freedom.
You're free to keep private any changes you want, you just have to provide source code if you distribute those changes.
Miner 2049'er still rates as one of my favorite games of all time. I always wanted the sequal to it, but I was never able to find it.
Here's a couple clues for you all who freaked out about this, the world doesn't revolve around security announcements and none of these companies are obligated to tell anyone jack-shit about their security problems. Its not like these companies were quick to share security information with anyone before. People will continue to find security holes in products, both open source and closed, and big companies will continue to drag their feet fixing then. No big change here.
If your really looking for a corporate group to fear try the World Economic Forum. A thousand of the most powerful CEOs, bankers, politicians, media moguls, etc. meet in Davos Switzerland every year to decide global economic policy, i.e. how to increase the flow of money from the lower and middle class to the upper class.
And as for the poster who suggested that Bill Clinton should be shot over this why don't you try moving to the Congo, the president was just shot and killed there today. Let us know in a year or two whether you enjoy living in a country where policy is made with a gun rather than through free and open debate.
The notion of rights is that there are some things that a majority of people MUST NOT be able to decide to have the government do. For example, even if 55% of people decide that Christian should be required by law, our stitution protects the rest of us from conversion by force.
Well actually you would only need about 5000 supporters to make that happen. (2/3) of the Congress would have to support an amendment, about 300 people, then a simply majority in 75% of the states, requiring apporximately 5000 state legislators give or take a few and boom those rights described in the first amendment are no more. Not to pick nits or anything...
but how do you know they'll grasp the idea of clicking a different button depending on what they want to do?
If they're that dense they will probably have trouble using even the most basic of applications as well. If they don't understand how to pick which button they need they probably won't understand when to use a word processor and when to use a web browser either, and personally I wouldn't want to use a computer targeted for this type of crowd.
0. e2-e4 | b7-b6 1. f1-a6 | c8xa6 2. g1-f3 | g8-f6 3. g2-g3 | f6-d5 4. h1-g1 | d5-e3 5. g1-g2 | e3xg2++ There, now its on the fifth move :)
If I have an idea for some small software program that might make enough money to support me and a few other programs, if it's any good RMS will swoop in an destroy my company.
They told me I was daft to start a small company that RMS could swoop in on and destroy, but I did it anyways. And RMS swooped in and destroyed it. So I built a second one, same thing. The third one fell over, burned down, then RMS swooped in and destroyed it just to really make a point. So I built a forth and a fifth, and the fifth one is still running, because we finally got smart and installed anti-aircraft guns on the roof, so RMS swooped in and BOOM-BOOM-BOOM and that was the last we saw of RMS.
Did you actually read the article header or did you just post?
Yes, it's the return of the IM Wars - we had covered this this past summer. Microsoft was in the right on this one - a standard does need to be made, by an industry-wide group.
Get a fscking account then get a clue.
People forget that the religious explanation should be replaced by the vastly more useful scientific one.
How is science more useful? Science will give me a way to take human life(guns, bombs, bio-toxins) or to save it(medication, better farming techniques) but it won't tell me which I should do. Does understanding the surrounding world really matter if I don't understand how to live in peace with my fellow man? Don't get me wrong, I love learning about the physical world, physics, chemistry, biology, all of it, but it doesn't mean squat if I use it to hurt people.
I take it you don't believe in God. What do you base your ethics on? It seems to me if you don't believe in God the most logical choice for a system of ethics is basically game theory, waying of the risks and rewards and making the choice which leaves you the best odds.
Mosts scientists beleive in the religion called "science" which is fundamentaly incompatible with Christianity.
How is it incompatible? Are you referring to the eternal faith vs. science argument? Well I have faith in God and I don't think science will ever prove or disprove his/her/its existance, but I don't think science will ever prove anything else either. Science is based on inductive reasoning which starts with a group of particular facts and forms a general conclusion. So if you went out and examined 5000 different mamals it would be logical to conclude that all mammals give birth to live young. Well then you find a duckbill platapus and your "proof" goes out the window. I'm not a philosophy major, so if you want to know more about this check out some works by David Hume.
Well I admit that I doubt God's existence about a million times more often than I doubt the existence of gravity, but they both play a role in my life and just because I have faith in science doesn't mean I can't have faith in God.
Thanks for the info, I'll have to look into that. Last I understood, PDC support was in alpha or beta and didn't implement trust relationships yet. For the project we were working on we needed trust relationships and ended up having to use NT even though we would have prefered Linux.
Well the way I see it MS has no business asking for open standards in instant messeging protocals if they have closed protocals in other forms of networking. In particular SMB, thats the protocal network neighborhood runs on. The Samba team has reverse engineered most of it, but the last time I checked Samba still couldn't be a Primary Domain Controller you have to buy NT if you want that. I haven't followed all this HTML stuff, but those MS extensions are they an open standard, I don't think so, someone correct me if I'm wrong. And their file formats for Office. MS thinks its of deathly importance that all IM clients should be able to talk to each other, but they don't think I should be able to read spreadsheets, databases, word-processing documents, etc on anything except their platforms. Really which is more important? Fscking hypocrits!!!
Regional locking means that a DVD purchased in one region, Asia perhaps, couldn't be played on a DVD player purchased in the USA. I don't know if the player just checks for a certain region code, meaning the player could just choose to ignore it, or if the actuall encryption is different, so the player would need the decryption keys for different regions to get by that. They do this because movies are released at different times in different parts of the world and they don't want people buying the DVD when its still out in the theatre.
Well what if C|Net put up Top Ten High School Pranks: #10 Jimmy Helger set fire to a trash can during lunch hour and cleared the school out for 2 hours. #9 Stevie Myers, not to be outdone, called in a bomb threat and get school cancelled for an entire day! Most people would see a problem with that as it encourages that type of behavior. I don't think most /.ers want to see more of those types of "hacks." I think most of us would rather hear about useful hacks, the creation of the personal computer, the Internet, the Linux OS. If young computer enthusists think that one becomes a "hacker" by defacing a website then all the talent they might have put into something great will goto waste.
I just always thought they were dropping acid.
Well the thing is that Y2K is going to hit first in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, then work its way west around the globe, the US is going to be one of the last countries hit by it. So there will be news reports of power outages in Mozambique, Turkmenistan, and other countries were they haven't spent as much/any money on solving this problem so people are going to start rioting and looting here in the US a couple hours before Y2K, cause the early bird gets the worm, or the new Sony widescreen, whatever trips your trigger. Then midnight is going to roll around and the power is going to stay on and there are going to be a lot of people running through the brightly lit streets of our great country holding consumer electronics that they don't own. The police will have to work a little harder that night rounding up the houdlums, but aside from that it won't be a big deal here in the US. In some other countries there will probably be some full scale uprisings.
Its because MS wants to keep parts of the SMB protocal closed, so only WinNT can be used as Domain Controller. I can't stand those hypocrits at MS who want open standards in markets they don't control, IM and other chat programs, but have no problem with closed protocals on the stuff they control. They could at least have the balls to be open about what they're doing rather than spewing some crap about doing whats best for the consumer.
Why don't all you First Post ACs do something useful and put a 'first post' up at http://www.antionline.com
Well how bout this. The first time you start the email client, it generates a set of keys for you and registers your email address and your public key with the key server. It can prompt you for the key server's name or if this is a limited deployment it already has that info hardcoded and registers for you.
Well its also a nightmare to use sendmail, but most people don't know that even though they indirectly use sendmail. With a little coding PGP could be embedded in an email client to the point where most ordinary users wouldn't even know that it was there. The client would download public keys, from a central key server, based on the email address of the sender/reciever. It would be able to encrypt, decrypt, and verify automaticly.
$7 eh? You work for a university right? I don't have a degree and I'm making more than twice that with no job experience.
Well I work in Systems Administration, the only experience I had before this job was working with my own Linux and NeXTStep systems and I'm making about $32K before taxes. I'm in the Durham, NC area and oh did I mention I'm just an intern. You might want to start sending out that resume.
I hate to break it to you, but the clueful saw the first 50 posts saying this wasn't new.