gawd.. i just have to comment - i bought a mac so that i could run osx (10 beta) four years ago. i now also have a 12" powerbook. I have many friends who run osx. I have NEVER had, nor heard that any of my friends had a problem with osx that required a reinstall. I have NEVER had, nor heard that any of my friends had a problem with software update.
think twice if you double-click on mp3s from the finder, but drag them into your favorite mp3 player and a trojan such as this won't have had any teeth. It is the finder which may be executing the "mp3" as something you didn't think it was.
I started running debian on alphas back in 97 or so, but have gone fully osx since dp3 (I bought a dual 450 to run it, a far cry from my quadra 840av).. but my 12" powerbook is awesome, and I don't want to give up any convenience by trying out gentoo (which I've run on my firewall for a short stint, and in various other places).
so. 1. can it sleep well? is it gonna freak out? 2. how's the battery life? I get 2-3.5 hours on a battery for my 12" depending on what I'm doing. 3. is there any significant feature disparity between osx and osx in mol?
I could sure get used to running xmms so I can finally listen to mpc's for real, yo.
great article. I was surprised that osx even approached the performance of linux, and it seemed to be consistently about 75-90% as fast. Now of course, that comparison only tested osx 10.1.5, and there has been significant work on darwin since - I'd love to see an updated shootout.
oh man.. the only problem with the 1600SW screen is that if you don't have the $500 multilink adapter + a DVI ADC connector, you need a specific card to drive the 1600SW. And if you're in that boat, you've got a Formac Proformance3 card with an SGI daughtercard which gives you the SGI-specific interface (a la betamax, has about 3x the video bandwidth of the DVI standard, but limited and dwindling support). And the kicker - there is no accelerated video driver for the Proformance3 for OSX. Suck!
I've been running that (rotten) combo for more than a year, and although it's fine for a boatload of terminal windows and some browsers, you won't be watching quicktime movies or playing games. Or screensavers. Forget about watching DVD's on it.
well I feel I should put in my two cents.. I've been using OpenLDAP and nssldap for almost a year now to do all my logins (rfc 2307 nis-style schema). this works for local logins, and also "domain" logins from macosx workstations (thanks marcel, for writing lookupmanager). I've also extended the schema to support a simple ldap-based mailing list manager that I wrote.
Granted I run a light network. But never during this time have I encountered any stability problems. Have you followed the development and looked at bugfix releases?
well I have to point out that this is a lab.. really not at all indicative of the computer-using populace at large. And I wouldn't be surprised if in the next couple years you see more macs being purchased or brought in by the 'kool kidz' once everyone realizes that you can run your molecular modelling X-windows software as well as your office/internet explorer on the same box using osx!
and from a technical standpoint, the port of Evolution to macosx would probably be MUCH easier than to win32. I'm sure it's almost there if you count using an Xserver on the mac, but even if you rewrite the front-end to cocoa/carbon/wxwindows/whatever the core is still on a unix-derivative.. the preferred compiler on osx is gcc:)
the last I checked (about a year ago) macos (9) and windows had audio latency of about 30ms. Beos had the best, at about 5-6ms. I'm not sure about linux, but the arch of the kernel dictates that it wouldn't have significantly lower latency than mac/win (except without patches that directly address latency, mentioned in the other sibling to the parent post).
I believe the threshold of human hearing to notice latency is about 15-20ms.
That MacOSX has 1ms audio latency is really an achievement made possible by the progressive architecture of the darwin kernel. CoreAudio rules!
A linux solution may be completely free of new costs, sure there's his time, and time to aquaint the talent with the new software, but that would be incurred regardless. A mac solution would involve hardware and software as well.
oh don't fall into the "everything linux is free" trap - in the words of jwz:
linux is only free if your time is of no value
if you have to screw around for 20 hours on a linux box to get everything correct, you could have just bought all the software for a mac/win solution. choose your battles wisely..
I agree that you should always use the best tool for the job, but if you're chief-anything at a company, leave your biases at home. Macs in this case may turn out to be the best solution, after all, the cost of the hardware is only one part of the TCO (oh don't you love those MSisms).
Yea I have 5 of them and an extra in a 3ware raid and already I've had 5 failures. I'm getting to the point where I just do a low level format and put it back in the raid (5) because I can't get the RMAs fast enough! I'm just going to have to take it down after a backup and send them all back. grr..
and I find it hilarious that IBM says on their product page that cnet praises their new 75gig drive, and then when you go to cnet, 50% of the readers have given it a thumbs down! nice work IBM..
if you raise your buzzword tolerance, it will tell you everything you need to know:)
and everyone who is suggesting a napsteresque solution for this - it's just not going to happen. Since xns or any sort of distributed auth system is distributed like dns, imagine if hostnameip mappings for your domain were only available when you were napstering? and where would people go about finding info about you? there has to be some central referral system a la the root servers of dns. that's what the xns public trust is all about.
xns. Read the backgrounder for a good understanding..
xns is to dns as xhtml1.0 is to html4.0
a distributed lookup service which could hold information defined by schemas written in XML. The first application was/is personal info. It's been around for a couple years, and has a public trust organization defining the community, hopefully alleviating people's worries of one company taking over. So what's happened to it? I guess it doesn't have the backing of sun or ms:)
the underlying software will be open source, although I don't think most of it is written yet. The only current implementation of the server is done by the closed source company who's idea this all was, onename.
And for those of you mac old-timers, the head of the public trust organization is Adam Engst!
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heh.. are you going to run windows/sparc on it with some vga-over-rs232 voodoo on the console?
This is exactly why Mac users should use VLC. We already have enough righteousness without getting hooked on a "better" interface :)
heh.. hell of a lot easier than say.. linux? even an operation as simple as "emerge system" takes forever and could end up in a broken box.
copy flash tftp
copy run tftp
copy tftp flash
reload
not too bad..
gawd.. i just have to comment - i bought a mac so that i could run osx (10 beta) four years ago. i now also have a 12" powerbook. I have many friends who run osx. I have NEVER had, nor heard that any of my friends had a problem with osx that required a reinstall. I have NEVER had, nor heard that any of my friends had a problem with software update.
think twice if you double-click on mp3s from the finder, but drag them into your favorite mp3 player and a trojan such as this won't have had any teeth. It is the finder which may be executing the "mp3" as something you didn't think it was.
probably. but 3ware doesn't play with osx, unfortunately..
what, you mean like .DS_Store? :)
okay, I'm sold. I haven't used kde or gnome in years, any recommendations on which one to try?
I started running debian on alphas back in 97 or so, but have gone fully osx since dp3 (I bought a dual 450 to run it, a far cry from my quadra 840av).. but my 12" powerbook is awesome, and I don't want to give up any convenience by trying out gentoo (which I've run on my firewall for a short stint, and in various other places).
so.
1. can it sleep well? is it gonna freak out?
2. how's the battery life? I get 2-3.5 hours on a battery for my 12" depending on what I'm doing.
3. is there any significant feature disparity between osx and osx in mol?
I could sure get used to running xmms so I can finally listen to mpc's for real, yo.
funny..
you sound like george bush, oversimplifying the matter to suit your own agenda.
your point may be true for some, but without institutionalized education humankind wouldn't be progressing nearly as quickly (for better or worse).
great article. I was surprised that osx even approached the performance of linux, and it seemed to be consistently about 75-90% as fast. Now of course, that comparison only tested osx 10.1.5, and there has been significant work on darwin since - I'd love to see an updated shootout.
the gov't or micro$oft?
wow.. thank god you're not
a) a judge
b) a chief executive
aren't we innocent until proven guilty?
and if you were running a company, would you let all your partners break contracts? you'll get no investment from me.
what should we do? let's just all wallow in our righteous indignation without all the facts.
oh man.. the only problem with the 1600SW screen is that if you don't have the $500 multilink adapter + a DVI ADC connector, you need a specific card to drive the 1600SW. And if you're in that boat, you've got a Formac Proformance3 card with an SGI daughtercard which gives you the SGI-specific interface (a la betamax, has about 3x the video bandwidth of the DVI standard, but limited and dwindling support). And the kicker - there is no accelerated video driver for the Proformance3 for OSX. Suck!
I've been running that (rotten) combo for more than a year, and although it's fine for a boatload of terminal windows and some browsers, you won't be watching quicktime movies or playing games. Or screensavers. Forget about watching DVD's on it.
But I LOVE my dual 450 and OSX.
well I feel I should put in my two cents.. I've been using OpenLDAP and nssldap for almost a year now to do all my logins (rfc 2307 nis-style schema). this works for local logins, and also "domain" logins from macosx workstations (thanks marcel, for writing lookupmanager). I've also extended the schema to support a simple ldap-based mailing list manager that I wrote.
Granted I run a light network. But never during this time have I encountered any stability problems. Have you followed the development and looked at bugfix releases?
well I have to point out that this is a lab.. really not at all indicative of the computer-using populace at large. And I wouldn't be surprised if in the next couple years you see more macs being purchased or brought in by the 'kool kidz' once everyone realizes that you can run your molecular modelling X-windows software as well as your office/internet explorer on the same box using osx!
:)
and from a technical standpoint, the port of Evolution to macosx would probably be MUCH easier than to win32. I'm sure it's almost there if you count using an Xserver on the mac, but even if you rewrite the front-end to cocoa/carbon/wxwindows/whatever the core is still on a unix-derivative.. the preferred compiler on osx is gcc
the last I checked (about a year ago) macos (9) and windows had audio latency of about 30ms. Beos had the best, at about 5-6ms. I'm not sure about linux, but the arch of the kernel dictates that it wouldn't have significantly lower latency than mac/win (except without patches that directly address latency, mentioned in the other sibling to the parent post).
I believe the threshold of human hearing to notice latency is about 15-20ms.
That MacOSX has 1ms audio latency is really an achievement made possible by the progressive architecture of the darwin kernel. CoreAudio rules!
oh don't fall into the "everything linux is free" trap - in the words of jwz:
linux is only free if your time is of no value
if you have to screw around for 20 hours on a linux box to get everything correct, you could have just bought all the software for a mac/win solution. choose your battles wisely..
I agree that you should always use the best tool for the job, but if you're chief-anything at a company, leave your biases at home. Macs in this case may turn out to be the best solution, after all, the cost of the hardware is only one part of the TCO (oh don't you love those MSisms).
and I find it hilarious that IBM says on their product page that cnet praises their new 75gig drive, and then when you go to cnet, 50% of the readers have given it a thumbs down! nice work IBM..
and everyone who is suggesting a napsteresque solution for this - it's just not going to happen. Since xns or any sort of distributed auth system is distributed like dns, imagine if hostnameip mappings for your domain were only available when you were napstering? and where would people go about finding info about you? there has to be some central referral system a la the root servers of dns. that's what the xns public trust is all about.
a distributed lookup service which could hold information defined by schemas written in XML. The first application was/is personal info. It's been around for a couple years, and has a public trust organization defining the community, hopefully alleviating people's worries of one company taking over. So what's happened to it? I guess it doesn't have the backing of sun or ms :)
the underlying software will be open source, although I don't think most of it is written yet. The only current implementation of the server is done by the closed source company who's idea this all was, onename.
And for those of you mac old-timers, the head of the public trust organization is Adam Engst!
what a boring interview.. nothing of substance in there at all.. ah well.
he was right- darwin, not macos. emacs isn't in the kernel, is it?
silly me.. cdrdao 1.1.5 does this perfectly.
-o