I am a female and I own and run a company. It's not female-only because that'd be just as sexist as a male-only company. We have a mix of both, and the work atmosphere here is great and we're nicely profitable. You don't hear about us because we're small, but there are countless businesses owned by women or that employ a mix of men and women that do very well and don't have any workplace problems.
I see nothing wrong with asking a coworker out just so long as there's no power imbalance. Two coworkers on the same team? Fine. Two people in separate departments? Fine. A supervisor asking a subordinate out? Not fine... the power imbalance makes it improper.
Nobody knows. But I don't think anyone would consider a polite date request by a coworker to be predatory, just so long as the coworker accepted the response (whatever it was) graciously.
So what? There's a little thing called impulse control. I'm female and I sometimes get turned on when I see an attractive guy. That doesn't mean I wolf-whistle or holler at him or treat him as a purely sexual object.
And telling women how to dress is just not on... that's the bailiwick of regressive religions and burkas. I dress to be comfortable, and if it's hot, then yeah, my clothes are light and more flesh is exposed than would be by a guy. But I do it to be comfortable, not for the benefit of anyone else. I'm certainly not looking for attention from guys.
I take no position on the merits of the case until more information is forthcoming, and neither should you. But to call any and all claims of harrassment "feminazi" is hateful.
You're right. So you guys need to stay home and take care of the house while we women earn the big bucks. If you can't co-mingle with us in the workforce, then stay home.
In ancient times when Freedom Mobile was called Wind Mobile, they'd actually unlock your phone for free once you'd been with them for a certain period of time (a year, I think.)
They stopped doing that a while back and added the $50 unlocking fee. But I don't think they ever really wanted it that badly and they're willing to look good and make Rogers, Bell and Telus look bad.
The only ones who will suffer from this are those phone-unlocking services in malls and online. Well, too bad for them I guess.
I would absolutely love it if more women were open and forthcoming about their interest in me, rather than waiting for me to make the first move
I agree with this. The problem is that, especially for young women, there's still a stigma attached to this. Men's interest in sex is seen as completely normal, while women who show a healthy interest in sex are stigmatized. The double-standard is there.
I used to be on a dating site. I received many messages from guys, sometimes dozens of guys per week. Most were nice, but I just didn't have the time to respond to them all. If I messaged a guy first, he automatically assumed I was super into him and was ready to head to bed, when all I wanted was to start the conversation going. So there is this assumption that women who make the first move are ready for casual sex right away.
I think that's a myth. And if a woman does do that, you leave and no harm is done. Interpreting a "yes" as a "no" is far less harmful than interpreting a "no" as a "yes".
And sure, some women are assholes. You need to run away from those crazy manipulative people. But this kind of assholery is not even in the same league as sexual assault or not accepting "no" for an answer.
Right. Because "no means no" is universally accepted. *rolls eyes*
Most men do in fact accept that "no means no" and are decent people. I don't blame them for trying to date women they meet at conferences or workplaces or wherever (so long as there's no power imbalance like a boss/employee.) That's normal and fine. However, enough men are assholes that pretty much every woman has encountered at least a few for who "no means yes". It's this small percentage that spoil it for everyone.
Any set of symbols is an "alphabet" in computer science parlance. Furthermore, although computer languages have a limited number of keywords, they also have variable names, etc.
Meh. I think parent is satire. Too subtle a WTF to be real.
My 85-yr-old Mom uses Linux. It's not really any harder to use than Windows. In fact, I'd say home use is a more likely sell than business use; it's businesses who often have specific software needs that can only be satisfied Windows programs (or at least, they think that's the case and aren't willing to look around.)
If everyone switched to Linux, virus writers would target it. So no-one switches. So it makes sense to switch because nobody else will, so you'll be ahead of the game.
Just don't tell anyone else that...
(My company has run completely on Linux since 1999. We're well ahead of everyone else that the bear is chasing.)
I suspect that what would happen instead is that the companies would put kill switches in their software, so they simply stop working after EOL. Or at least stop all networking except to their upgrade servers.
I get that this might be insulting to Trump (saying that a world leader is willing to submit sexually to Putin is pretty insulting), but how's it homophobic?
Also, this whole stupid hypocrisy about swearing on TV in the United States is ridiculous. How many kids have been harmed by hearing the word "fuck"? Zero.
I agree. This will give me at least 4 minutes of standup material. "Oh, my computer crashed. Wait, it's back! It's a MIRACLE. The resurrection is real!"
Or giving geeks everywhere hope: "Wait, what? You can have a kid without having sex? My gene lineage isn't necessarily destined to die out! Yay!"
I am a female and I own and run a company. It's not female-only because that'd be just as sexist as a male-only company. We have a mix of both, and the work atmosphere here is great and we're nicely profitable. You don't hear about us because we're small, but there are countless businesses owned by women or that employ a mix of men and women that do very well and don't have any workplace problems.
I see nothing wrong with asking a coworker out just so long as there's no power imbalance. Two coworkers on the same team? Fine. Two people in separate departments? Fine. A supervisor asking a subordinate out? Not fine... the power imbalance makes it improper.
Nobody knows. But I don't think anyone would consider a polite date request by a coworker to be predatory, just so long as the coworker accepted the response (whatever it was) graciously.
Males are biologically horny
So what? There's a little thing called impulse control. I'm female and I sometimes get turned on when I see an attractive guy. That doesn't mean I wolf-whistle or holler at him or treat him as a purely sexual object.
And telling women how to dress is just not on... that's the bailiwick of regressive religions and burkas. I dress to be comfortable, and if it's hot, then yeah, my clothes are light and more flesh is exposed than would be by a guy. But I do it to be comfortable, not for the benefit of anyone else. I'm certainly not looking for attention from guys.
An anecdote is not data. Thanks.
Seriously? Did you people not see the implicit <sarcasm> tags in my original post?
Except labor laws prohibit certain forms of harrassment at work even if they don't constitute criminal behavior.
She was fired because 'a neutral, third-party expert' ... concluded her complaints were unmerited. ... according to Tesla, that is.
I take no position on the merits of the case until more information is forthcoming, and neither should you. But to call any and all claims of harrassment "feminazi" is hateful.
You're right. So you guys need to stay home and take care of the house while we women earn the big bucks. If you can't co-mingle with us in the workforce, then stay home.
In ancient times when Freedom Mobile was called Wind Mobile, they'd actually unlock your phone for free once you'd been with them for a certain period of time (a year, I think.)
They stopped doing that a while back and added the $50 unlocking fee. But I don't think they ever really wanted it that badly and they're willing to look good and make Rogers, Bell and Telus look bad.
The only ones who will suffer from this are those phone-unlocking services in malls and online. Well, too bad for them I guess.
I would absolutely love it if more women were open and forthcoming about their interest in me, rather than waiting for me to make the first move
I agree with this. The problem is that, especially for young women, there's still a stigma attached to this. Men's interest in sex is seen as completely normal, while women who show a healthy interest in sex are stigmatized. The double-standard is there.
I used to be on a dating site. I received many messages from guys, sometimes dozens of guys per week. Most were nice, but I just didn't have the time to respond to them all. If I messaged a guy first, he automatically assumed I was super into him and was ready to head to bed, when all I wanted was to start the conversation going. So there is this assumption that women who make the first move are ready for casual sex right away.
enough women say "no" but mean something else
I think that's a myth. And if a woman does do that, you leave and no harm is done. Interpreting a "yes" as a "no" is far less harmful than interpreting a "no" as a "yes".
And sure, some women are assholes. You need to run away from those crazy manipulative people. But this kind of assholery is not even in the same league as sexual assault or not accepting "no" for an answer.
Right. Because "no means no" is universally accepted. *rolls eyes*
Most men do in fact accept that "no means no" and are decent people. I don't blame them for trying to date women they meet at conferences or workplaces or wherever (so long as there's no power imbalance like a boss/employee.) That's normal and fine. However, enough men are assholes that pretty much every woman has encountered at least a few for who "no means yes". It's this small percentage that spoil it for everyone.
Bullshit. My name is Dianne. And if anyone is rude or sexist to me, I give them shit.
Everyone, men and women, has to start standing up for themselves and not take crap and not hide to avoid crap.
Please cite the New York law. I believe some daycares might have that policy, and it's probably illegal because it's sex discrimination.
Um. Say what?
Any set of symbols is an "alphabet" in computer science parlance. Furthermore, although computer languages have a limited number of keywords, they also have variable names, etc.
Meh. I think parent is satire. Too subtle a WTF to be real.
My 85-yr-old Mom uses Linux. It's not really any harder to use than Windows. In fact, I'd say home use is a more likely sell than business use; it's businesses who often have specific software needs that can only be satisfied Windows programs (or at least, they think that's the case and aren't willing to look around.)
If everyone switched to Linux, virus writers would target it. So no-one switches. So it makes sense to switch because nobody else will, so you'll be ahead of the game.
Just don't tell anyone else that...
(My company has run completely on Linux since 1999. We're well ahead of everyone else that the bear is chasing.)
I think we'd all be happier if you minded your own business and didn't discuss things of which you're ingnorant.
Lots, because the nerds are angry that trans women get to look at boobies any time they want. Just drives them crazy.
I suspect that what would happen instead is that the companies would put kill switches in their software, so they simply stop working after EOL. Or at least stop all networking except to their upgrade servers.
,,, we've been eating at their restaurants every Christmas for years. Mazel Tov!
I get that this might be insulting to Trump (saying that a world leader is willing to submit sexually to Putin is pretty insulting), but how's it homophobic?
Also, this whole stupid hypocrisy about swearing on TV in the United States is ridiculous. How many kids have been harmed by hearing the word "fuck"? Zero.
I agree. This will give me at least 4 minutes of standup material. "Oh, my computer crashed. Wait, it's back! It's a MIRACLE. The resurrection is real!"
Or giving geeks everywhere hope: "Wait, what? You can have a kid without having sex? My gene lineage isn't necessarily destined to die out! Yay!"