ESR bay have become an asshole or whatever the slashdot crowd thinks about him nowadays (I honestly don't know him so I couldn't really say), but CatB is still a good reading.
IBM? It's the only big enough to copete with intel silicon chips producer that I can think of. Some time ago there was a rumor saying that it would buy AMD.
you could output everything to PDF or HTML, couldn't you? (just an idea here, I realize that those formats may not be useful for your purpose given certain conditions)
lots of $$ on it, and it's suposed to be critical in the first place so the companies who create it do it in the least buggy way that can be bought.
"linux" is usually done by nice people who want to give something away to the comunity, which is great and has been working excelent, but it can't beat commercial unixes.
that read the title and saw a "Vi vs. Emacs" flamewar in the horizon (or right after the click, whichever you prefer). I was even planning to tag this article "oldnewsflamewar" or something like that...
Sorry, I don't have an answer to your question, but what I can say is that the title was a little bit confusing.
Here's a clue: if you don't want to read about whether a product is worth it, don't click on a Slashdot article about it. Slashdot would suck if nobody shared their opinions. It would be improved, however, if you reserved your complaining about complaints for articles about how often one should complain.
it would be better if nobody complained about the complains that are about complains, so... oh, wait, nevermind.
there's no discusion because the install takes too long
If they are fixing bugs and changing features in a RELEASE candidate, perhaps what they actually released was a beta. It's not surprising that their schedule slip a few months back has pushed them into perpetual RC mode. Faced with schedules that aren't likely to change very much, it's better to slap 'RC' on a beta than to try to explain to management why the beta cycle is lasting almost a year.
I bet they'll call it "gamma" after the RC cycle...
I live in argentina, and belong to the "middel class". I'm having a training course in UNIX basics so I can start working with an "american" (I fscking hate when people refer to the united states of (north) america as "america") corporation; a big one in IT. when I finish the course, I'll start working as a UNIX sysadmin trainee for US$500 (1500 pesos, that's a great salary for a 19 year old starter here. I could live on my own in a nice neighbourhood). There are a couple of other people in the course who actually understand what we are learning and have some experience in unix-like systems, the other will likely be "three month trained unix sysadmins", the crappy type. Too bad for the underqualified white northamericans who think that they should have "my" future job no matter what: this white qualified southamerican will get the job.
oviously, my country sucks in ways that america sucks less: there is no civic conciense among consumers, unions tend to be driven by political currents, and tech costs 50% more than in the "first world" because of ridiculous taxes. not to count that because our coin is around 3,14 pesos a dolar, tech costs something like 4 times that you pay (relatively speaking). you get a US$70 video card for US$170 here, for example.
I'm not trying to make a point here, that has been done. Just explainig a bit of how are thing in the "underdeveloped poor third world countries", which is not so mucho underdeveloped: we could use a nice IT infrastructure with one loaptop per child and free gov-sustained wifi and stuff like that, but it would give the people more knowledge (hence power) and the politicians less control over people (especially if people learn that they can cypher their data, for example). politicians here behave (and I suspect they also think) like if this were the country it was a century ago: an undeveloped third world country who's only ability was to produce food. Today we are developing and not all of the populations needs just food (only some 30 percent, because -again- our politicians are assholes as yours are).
just my two cents (this would be six cents here, that buys me a candy ^_^)
~ Kant
p.s.: I apologize for my crappy english, as you may have guessed it's not my mother language.
p.s. 2: I know the text is not properly written and doesn't seem to follow a line, but it's 3 AM here and I'm tired. anyway, someone will answer this saying that it's over the regular USA internetuser or something like that.
p.s. 3: I know that canada is also northamerica, sorry for putting you with the USA
i live in argentina (it's located in south america, between chile and brasil). some decades ago we had a militar government, which had the support of the US. nearly all latin america had one. in chile, a militar government overthrew a genuinely elected "comunist" president.
I believe that in that time it was "the war on comunism". that was something really bad, it drew back the human development of south american nations like 50 years
I don't have anything in particular against USA citizens, but things like what I said avobe make nearly all this continent HATE USA as a country and it's administrations.
~Kant
p.s.: I apoligize for my crappy english; my mother language is spanish
With Free Software OSes especially, it's actually really nice to be able to install whenever you want, without worrying about intrusive "validation" procedures, etc -- I know I dabble with various OSes, just to check out what's new.
Oh, but debian does have a validation: if you can't get through the installation it means that you're not a Genuine Debian User
(note: I haven't installed debian myself, just head about it's installation from friends)
XHTML version
postscript version
docbook xml version
all of those found here
ESR bay have become an asshole or whatever the slashdot crowd thinks about him nowadays (I honestly don't know him so I couldn't really say), but CatB is still a good reading.
deja vu...
is there any way of stopping this guy? I've seen this comment too many times in the last day.
IBM? It's the only big enough to copete with intel silicon chips producer that I can think of. Some time ago there was a rumor saying that it would buy AMD.
you could output everything to PDF or HTML, couldn't you? (just an idea here, I realize that those formats may not be useful for your purpose given certain conditions)
Actually, the status quo questions YOU in corporate america too.
Does it run Linux?
I for one welcome our new microelectronic polymorphic overlords
... when I used this program (yes, I know the base is LDraw)
forgot to mention: by "linux" there I mean what people usually refer as that, not only the linux kernel.
lots of $$ on it, and it's suposed to be critical in the first place so the companies who create it do it in the least buggy way that can be bought.
"linux" is usually done by nice people who want to give something away to the comunity, which is great and has been working excelent, but it can't beat commercial unixes.
that read the title and saw a "Vi vs. Emacs" flamewar in the horizon (or right after the click, whichever you prefer). I was even planning to tag this article "oldnewsflamewar" or something like that...
Sorry, I don't have an answer to your question, but what I can say is that the title was a little bit confusing.
~Kant
it would be better if nobody complained about the complains that are about complains, so... oh, wait, nevermind.
*insert Internet Explorer joke here*
(note that I searched before posting, nobody posted it)
there's no discusion because the install takes too long
I bet they'll call it "gamma" after the RC cycle...
I understood that mexico was in central america. But (political limits) geography isn't my strength, so I may be wrong.
I live in argentina, and belong to the "middel class". I'm having a training course in UNIX basics so I can start working with an "american" (I fscking hate when people refer to the united states of (north) america as "america") corporation; a big one in IT. when I finish the course, I'll start working as a UNIX sysadmin trainee for US$500 (1500 pesos, that's a great salary for a 19 year old starter here. I could live on my own in a nice neighbourhood). There are a couple of other people in the course who actually understand what we are learning and have some experience in unix-like systems, the other will likely be "three month trained unix sysadmins", the crappy type. Too bad for the underqualified white northamericans who think that they should have "my" future job no matter what: this white qualified southamerican will get the job.
oviously, my country sucks in ways that america sucks less: there is no civic conciense among consumers, unions tend to be driven by political currents, and tech costs 50% more than in the "first world" because of ridiculous taxes. not to count that because our coin is around 3,14 pesos a dolar, tech costs something like 4 times that you pay (relatively speaking). you get a US$70 video card for US$170 here, for example.
I'm not trying to make a point here, that has been done. Just explainig a bit of how are thing in the "underdeveloped poor third world countries", which is not so mucho underdeveloped: we could use a nice IT infrastructure with one loaptop per child and free gov-sustained wifi and stuff like that, but it would give the people more knowledge (hence power) and the politicians less control over people (especially if people learn that they can cypher their data, for example). politicians here behave (and I suspect they also think) like if this were the country it was a century ago: an undeveloped third world country who's only ability was to produce food. Today we are developing and not all of the populations needs just food (only some 30 percent, because -again- our politicians are assholes as yours are).
just my two cents (this would be six cents here, that buys me a candy ^_^)
~ Kant
p.s.: I apologize for my crappy english, as you may have guessed it's not my mother language.
p.s. 2: I know the text is not properly written and doesn't seem to follow a line, but it's 3 AM here and I'm tired. anyway, someone will answer this saying that it's over the regular USA internetuser or something like that.
p.s. 3: I know that canada is also northamerica, sorry for putting you with the USA
... do not welcome our new MS overloads.
I'd say "what the flickr?"
(couldn't resist posting it...)
i live in argentina (it's located in south america, between chile and brasil). some decades ago we had a militar government, which had the support of the US. nearly all latin america had one. in chile, a militar government overthrew a genuinely elected "comunist" president.
I believe that in that time it was "the war on comunism". that was something really bad, it drew back the human development of south american nations like 50 years
I don't have anything in particular against USA citizens, but things like what I said avobe make nearly all this continent HATE USA as a country and it's administrations.
~Kant
p.s.: I apoligize for my crappy english; my mother language is spanish
oblig. linus quote:
(can't remember where I read it, probably wikiquote)Oh, but debian does have a validation: if you can't get through the installation it means that you're not a Genuine Debian User
(note: I haven't installed debian myself, just head about it's installation from friends)
something like this?