really - unless the person sets the "Let Microsoft decide when and where I do updates" most of the updates WILL NOT be done. The average person uses the computer like a tv - turn it on to see the web and turn it off when done. Leave my computer on ALL NIGHT just so i can backup/run antivirus/run defrag/run etc. etc. ???
Oh yeah these people do exist and they have 'FRIENDS' that 'KNOW' computers and 'HELP' them out by turning off that annoying UAC or giving them a 'FREE' version of office. The looks on their faces when I explain that the software they got off Limewire is infected with virus' - they can't believe microsoft would do that!!! THAT is the mentality, and that is why these attacks have always worked, and will always work.
Social Engineering is the more likely cause of all major hacking issues. People saying their password out loud in a crowded office. My favorite is when you ask them for their password then add 'you can probably take everything I have because I use that for EVERYTHING'.
I have found people like "convenience", 'why should I have to log into ANOTHER computer to do the Banking?' - and 'can i get some speakers for that computer so i can listen to online radio while i do the banking?'...
I am glad to see that an "Alert" was produced from it, most businesses would have done the whole cover-up 'it never happened - now don't do it again' bit.
(can't tell you how many times i've been asked that during a 'support' call...)
While simple for people who can bounce between operating system and program interfaces but MOST people don't even (our mac friends inc(de)luded), don't even know there is such a thing as a right click - let alone what it is for.
While you agonizingly make your point, the reality is that FF & Chrome users DON"T WANT TO USE BING. If Bing is a tool it is the one in the bin at the grocery store as you wait in line to checkout. Or in the 100 yard long aisl to checkout at Fry's.
Perhaps "Hacker" was an incorrect term and - "a hack" to set it to work again - would have been a more appropriate statement. Never mind that the person creating a "HACK" would be dubbed a "HACKER".
I wanna see this shit play out - M$ is going to attempt to tell a Judge that they "fixed" it by disabling something - (then perhaps a hacker can - re-enable it)... wonder if this... ahem "JUDGE" will accept this...
If history is any lesson, when you try to take something the gubmint uses (rim's blackberry), your case will lost to you no matter how good your case is (valid or not). MS Office is widely used throughout the US government and I do not see them changing for some niggling reason like a Canadian company has a vague patent. We will go to war with Canadia (and their Queen will allow us to), before MS Word stops being sold. i4i will soon be branded "Drug Dealers" or "Terrorist". Sure hope i4i does not have to travel to the US... I feel a ground swell for some Manifest Destiny. Someone call Dobbs! Canadia must be ours.
if you were still using Nutscrape when IE5 came out then you have a somewhat "valid" point, but most moved to Mozilla by that point - and got updates - unless you area "consumer" then you took what aol sent you as "Netscape the Musical". I used IE5 (on windows machnes), for about 6months, and then realized the crap hitting my AV was coming from it.
Warning people away from Internet Exploder since 1999.
Does 1999 count as prior art? I have operated a RealAudio/mp3 server since 1998 serving up episodes of a guys radio show. Perhaps i should file patent... I wonder do the USPTO employees still use an 8088 and send email via telegraph? WTF.
Here's their problem - the malware/virus guys have been working against their products for so long now, they KNOW how they work, and with the level of embededness these programs have in the operating system, the m/v guys have figured out now all they have to do is exploit the security software - they can handily shut it off while making it appear to the user it is still on... ahem... and do what they want. Having cleaned some very nasty stuff off of both Symantec's and McAfee's premiere CONSUMER products that were up to date and "working" it really makes you wonder just wtf! Of course this make the clients REALLY angry when you tell them the product they just bought/"LICENSED" for 2 more years at a DISCOUNT price of $80 a piece of crap and allowed the miscreant malware to molest their system. Why oh why do they NEVER call the company they just paid for support - because the AV Corp tells them TO GO ONLINE AND FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THEIR WEBSITE - in most cases the sites are blocked... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaah./faceplant on desktop/
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really - unless the person sets the "Let Microsoft decide when and where I do updates" most of the updates WILL NOT be done. The average person uses the computer like a tv - turn it on to see the web and turn it off when done. Leave my computer on ALL NIGHT just so i can backup/run antivirus/run defrag/run etc. etc. ???
Oh yeah these people do exist and they have 'FRIENDS' that 'KNOW' computers and 'HELP' them out by turning off that annoying UAC or giving them a 'FREE' version of office. The looks on their faces when I explain that the software they got off Limewire is infected with virus' - they can't believe microsoft would do that!!! THAT is the mentality, and that is why these attacks have always worked, and will always work.
on teh internests its teh maths what duz it.
How did Todd Snider put it? The point being - lies - damn lies and statistics.
Wait - You're saying the Demopublicans and the Republocrats provide the same outcome? Shit. Perhaps we give them a paper cut with the Constitution.
Obviously M$ is pushing the oems to whine - and Dell being a Boy-Howdy TEXASS company, well that may just make the judge changed his mind... ya'll.
Crybaby assed bitches! As my dear old departed daddy used to say, "Keep that shit up and you'll be wearin' lace panties!"
It's a fucking image for shit's sake, MAKE A NEW ONE. For :D
Social Engineering is the more likely cause of all major hacking issues. People saying their password out loud in a crowded office. My favorite is when you ask them for their password then add 'you can probably take everything I have because I use that for EVERYTHING'.
I have found people like "convenience", 'why should I have to log into ANOTHER computer to do the Banking?' - and 'can i get some speakers for that computer so i can listen to online radio while i do the banking?'...
I am glad to see that an "Alert" was produced from it, most businesses would have done the whole cover-up 'it never happened - now don't do it again' bit.
when you say 'Click' do i right-click again?
(can't tell you how many times i've been asked that during a 'support' call...)
While simple for people who can bounce between operating system and program interfaces but MOST people don't even (our mac friends inc(de)luded), don't even know there is such a thing as a right click - let alone what it is for.
While you agonizingly make your point, the reality is that FF & Chrome users DON"T WANT TO USE BING. If Bing is a tool it is the one in the bin at the grocery store as you wait in line to checkout. Or in the 100 yard long aisl to checkout at Fry's.
Who does he record for? Perhaps you could send us a playlist?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaahahhahahaha.
Perhaps "Hacker" was an incorrect term and - "a hack" to set it to work again - would have been a more appropriate statement. Never mind that the person creating a "HACK" would be dubbed a "HACKER".
Perhaps Cowboy Neal now has a new revenue stream.
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Easy there spiderman... don't go "volunteering" for testing.
I wanna see this shit play out - M$ is going to attempt to tell a Judge that they "fixed" it by disabling something - (then perhaps a hacker can - re-enable it)... wonder if this... ahem "JUDGE" will accept this...
If history is any lesson, when you try to take something the gubmint uses (rim's blackberry), your case will lost to you no matter how good your case is (valid or not). MS Office is widely used throughout the US government and I do not see them changing for some niggling reason like a Canadian company has a vague patent. We will go to war with Canadia (and their Queen will allow us to), before MS Word stops being sold. i4i will soon be branded "Drug Dealers" or "Terrorist". Sure hope i4i does not have to travel to the US... I feel a ground swell for some Manifest Destiny. Someone call Dobbs! Canadia must be ours.
So the IRRELEVANT seek to obtain more IRRELEVANCE?
Gasping and struggling for that last breath... before they sink and die.
if you were still using Nutscrape when IE5 came out then you have a somewhat "valid" point, but most moved to Mozilla by that point - and got updates - unless you area "consumer" then you took what aol sent you as "Netscape the Musical". I used IE5 (on windows machnes), for about 6months, and then realized the crap hitting my AV was coming from it.
Warning people away from Internet Exploder since 1999.
TNSTAAFL!
Does 1999 count as prior art? I have operated a RealAudio/mp3 server since 1998 serving up episodes of a guys radio show. Perhaps i should file patent... I wonder do the USPTO employees still use an 8088 and send email via telegraph? WTF.
wouldn't the "WI-FI Detector" also cause him... "problems"? I mean, if his illness were "REAL"?
Just sayin...
The genius' name is Peter O'Fyle, he likes to be called "Pete". Go ahead, say his name...
Fart, Turd and Twat.
There, fixed that for ya.
Sancho? is that you?
Really? No fuckin' way!
Here's their problem - the malware/virus guys have been working against their products for so long now, they KNOW how they work, and with the level of embededness these programs have in the operating system, the m/v guys have figured out now all they have to do is exploit the security software - they can handily shut it off while making it appear to the user it is still on ... ahem... and do what they want. Having cleaned some very nasty stuff off of both Symantec's and McAfee's premiere CONSUMER products that were up to date and "working" it really makes you wonder just wtf! Of course this make the clients REALLY angry when you tell them the product they just bought/"LICENSED" for 2 more years at a DISCOUNT price of $80 a piece of crap and allowed the miscreant malware to molest their system. Why oh why do they NEVER call the company they just paid for support - because the AV Corp tells them TO GO ONLINE AND FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THEIR WEBSITE - in most cases the sites are blocked ... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaah. /faceplant on desktop/
A man's gotta do what a man's gotta doowoowoo
Allright now, who farted in the lab?