Yes Beta 2 exppired today but Beta 3 was also released today. There was a gap of a few hours. This software is for DEVELOPERS and has not effect on end users. This story was moot to begin with.... Apple openly says you should not use this beta software on your everyday device.... (I don't know who has lots of these things just laying around, but hey, whatever) I also got a "new software build notice" 2.5 hrs before this was posted....
keeping in the spirit of most apple followers, that is about 2.4 hrs more than most need to get the latest update. Welcome to the developing community where sometimes.... Things DONT WORK.... its called a beta...
I Honestly don't care which AV program barracuda uses; If I am expected to follow GPL and release source code and credit where I got it from, ClamAV and hence Barracuda must do the same... to say otherwise would state that companies are above the law and capable of publishing (and selling) your GPL protected program...
As for the necessity of an AV program, most people here don't NEED av programs, but there are people that do, let's just face it, my mother doesn't know if that "You are over your credit limit" email she got this morning is real or not... she is intelligent enough to know that that would mean identity theft, not to know that reading that email will likely cause identity theft... to her, if it looks like a Chase email, it is a Chase email.
AV programs are essential for people that are unmistakably not computer savvy.
I find this a kind of cocky move by microsoft, they are showing confidence in their product by letting users see it stand side by side with Linux. That being said, I feel that the users will chose the OS that they prefer and that OS will survive the olpc project.
I know I wont be deploying Vista without antivirus, but, i think the only feasable way you would deploy Vista AV Free would be if your users did not have the Admin password. (we all know it is windows, and will be prone to exploits without the password anyways)
But my point is simple. the average user (who deploys their own copy) has the admin password... People are so used to typing their password for anything and everything, the average joe end user WILL type their password to let a virus install itself. therefore we WILL need AV Software in Vista, even if it is the first piece of software to be exploit free....
As far as leasing equipment goes- It is something i would consider hevily. If you go with dell (alienware) equipment, or cisco equipment. You will be able to lease your machines for 2-3 years with a rolling lease. As soon as the equipment is getting to the point where it doesn't fit the needs of a "gaming shop" anymore, you get new stuff. AFIAK you can do this with dell, but i know for a fact if you finance equipment thru cisco, you can trade up at any point in your lease with money u have paid roll to the next lease.
If you look at it, you would always have that one high expense, but you would always be current on your hardware, and IMHO that is what is going to bring in the suburbians.
I also think an open environment is conducive to what you are looking for. Make sure people that just walk in can see other people on the computers. You probably dont want to make it so people outside can see the gaming area (if noone was playing, would you go in?) Anyone interested in gaming will walk in, see a few people on the machines, and by the time they are already wow'd enough to come inside- it wouldnt take much to keep them there.
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keeping in the spirit of most apple followers, that is about 2.4 hrs more than most need to get the latest update.
Welcome to the developing community where sometimes.... Things DONT WORK.... its called a beta...
I Honestly don't care which AV program barracuda uses; If I am expected to follow GPL and release source code and credit where I got it from, ClamAV and hence Barracuda must do the same... to say otherwise would state that companies are above the law and capable of publishing (and selling) your GPL protected program... As for the necessity of an AV program, most people here don't NEED av programs, but there are people that do, let's just face it, my mother doesn't know if that "You are over your credit limit" email she got this morning is real or not... she is intelligent enough to know that that would mean identity theft, not to know that reading that email will likely cause identity theft... to her, if it looks like a Chase email, it is a Chase email. AV programs are essential for people that are unmistakably not computer savvy.
I find this a kind of cocky move by microsoft, they are showing confidence in their product by letting users see it stand side by side with Linux. That being said, I feel that the users will chose the OS that they prefer and that OS will survive the olpc project.
Clearly whenever a top ten game of the decade comes out this netadmin doesnt have network issues... only Halo 3...
Save yourself the criticism next time nub, and include something nerdy like a packet capture.
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I know I wont be deploying Vista without antivirus, but, i think the only feasable way you would deploy Vista AV Free would be if your users did not have the Admin password. (we all know it is windows, and will be prone to exploits without the password anyways) But my point is simple. the average user (who deploys their own copy) has the admin password... People are so used to typing their password for anything and everything, the average joe end user WILL type their password to let a virus install itself. therefore we WILL need AV Software in Vista, even if it is the first piece of software to be exploit free....
As far as leasing equipment goes- It is something i would consider hevily. If you go with dell (alienware) equipment, or cisco equipment. You will be able to lease your machines for 2-3 years with a rolling lease. As soon as the equipment is getting to the point where it doesn't fit the needs of a "gaming shop" anymore, you get new stuff. AFIAK you can do this with dell, but i know for a fact if you finance equipment thru cisco, you can trade up at any point in your lease with money u have paid roll to the next lease. If you look at it, you would always have that one high expense, but you would always be current on your hardware, and IMHO that is what is going to bring in the suburbians. I also think an open environment is conducive to what you are looking for. Make sure people that just walk in can see other people on the computers. You probably dont want to make it so people outside can see the gaming area (if noone was playing, would you go in?) Anyone interested in gaming will walk in, see a few people on the machines, and by the time they are already wow'd enough to come inside- it wouldnt take much to keep them there.