Cubert: Your explanations are pure weapons grade balognium. It's all impossible.
Professor Farnsworth: Nothing is impossible. Not if you can imagine it. That's what being a scientist is all about.
Cubert: No, that's what being a magical elf is all about.
Why oh why do I read/. at work? Bursting out laughing in the middle of the cube farm can cause much staring...
But either way, if this is real, this could be a boon for many. Especially the young that face this and are being assaulted by their own hormones...
We are born selfish and violent, lashing out (stomping feet, hitting, biting, scratch, hitting, etc) when we don't get want.
but show one schlong or some boobies, and that makes the movie off limits.
OTOH, we don't even start to become sexual beings until the early teen years. (Later, in cultures that aren't so sex-saturated as the US.)
Pretty screwed up world we live in.
Well, yes, but not for the reason you think.
You've never been outside the US then have you?
England after watershed. The rest of Europe all the time. Nudity is kind of a fact of life everywhere but the censor happy US....
Most of the people want the product now and are willing to pay for it. If you're willing to wait weeks, to import something from somewhere else, do all of the work calculating that you're going to save X dollars doing it, but how much is your time worth while doing this, and then waiting for it to be delivered?
People will pay X for lack of options that appeal to their sense of urgency. It's not discriminatory, it's the way the government has setup all of the rules that companies and people must abide by.
To reply to this, most software houses have places in Canada and the US, also US and Canada also have NAFTA, and they don't have the EU and England import policies and tariffs, and VAT.
Yes, and I agree. My issue is with the way it was worded. And I do apologize for misreading what your meaning.
The pricing issue is with how they are delivered, manufactured, produced, and if they an an actual factual product or a electronic download. International shipping, VAT, delivery, import costs and fees, licenses, customs, blah blah blah. All of these have time and money costs that change the overall valuation of the product.
And with the way the current system works, when the dollar falls in value, Americans would freak out if companies raised there prices accordingly to the supposed value. And the companies aren't inclined to lower their prices in other places to have it match that current value in America. It just doesn't work that way.
Also with products developed in english in america, they are always going to be inclined to charge more for it elsewhere as it's more work for them to follow all of the rules of import/export, and all of that good jazz, plus all of the work to create a localized version. That's basically what I am trying to express.
I take this to mean he disagrees with my statement:
Version localizations cost extra time and money. Localizing products are a logistical nightmare, all of the redoing everything, all of the retesting and then you have to have a separate distribution system to make sure that they can get the localized version they need.
Then he states this:
The Gibson Melody Maker costs 399, dollar or euro.
Which I take to mean he believes that this Guitar is of the same price in Europe or US.
Eventhough the prices if exchange rates are applied are vastly different.
You fail. All of these products have localizations that are required to sell the product in that area. Just because the article is only about Europe doesn't mean that it doesn't hold true for everywhere else as well.
That's most likely because they have a local purchasing/store setup that they pass on the extra costs they incur for localizing and managing a product based on your original language. It sucks but that's the way it works currently, because of VAT and other international rules/laws.
Because of tax issues etc. International is international even if you are on the same continent. Some places will ship across the Canada boarder, especially if you currently have a worldwide software contract for Microsoft, select or enterprise agreement.
Ok, how many localizations are you running? German, Italian, Russian, UK English, American English, French Canadian, French, Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, Latin American Spanish, Portuguese, Afrikaans, Arabic, Middle Eastern, Brazilian, Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, Estonian, Finnish, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Korean, Latvian, Lithuanian, Norwegian, Polish, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Swedish, Turkish, Ukrainian?
Then you have to look at operating expenses in these countries, as you require a distribution method, you have to pay the VAT, all of which are more expensive, also you have local tariffs, and import fees.
You also have issues with what contractual terms you can put into contracts when you are working with your customers, distribution, and employees, that are different from the US.
Managing localized technical support is another issue in itself. Multilingual, trained product experts. Aren't particularly cheap, and tend to not stay around very long.
Copyright law in Europe is a little bit different than the US and has its own issues, that you need to have experts for, when you are putting together ownership, especially determining what is copyright-able and patentable.
Go to a software vendor or reseller and get 2 comparable quotes 1 for US and 1 for Canada, have them both in USD, and they will either be the same or canada will be more expensive.
Actually, having to create a new version of the software that has NO demand, still costs them the same amount as it did to create the english localization, but has none of the returns. In comparison to the English version which is their bread and butter.
No offense to anyone that is Portuguese, but there probably isn't very much demand for Adobe Fireworks in Portuguese localization. So there is going to be a premium to get it.
Not sure about the patents thing in Europe, but I know Europe has a lot of issues that make selling software, managing copyrights, and protecting your intellectual property a difficult job at times. I think that the expectation based on those extra problems and difficulties would be that software would be more expensive.
Version localizations cost extra time and money. Localizing products are a logistical nightmare, all of the redoing everything, all of the retesting and then you have to have a separate distribution system to make sure that they can get the localized version they need.
No No, that's India, Iran, Japan, or Thailand.
The flea markets with burned copies of the latest software, movies, games, everything, are pretty amazing.
I think in general, it's the best way to get his story heard. Make it public, bring in the Major, or even the governor, whatever, don't hand it over to the cops, that will just leave you high and dry with no outs. And make it so your story never gets heard.
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He was amazing, true to form to the gritty, dark, real, version of Gotham City.
Great performance.
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For the US, Cuba, Iran, Syria, Libia and a bunch of other countries are under an embargo, where american companies cannot export to them...
Cubert: Your explanations are pure weapons grade balognium. It's all impossible. Professor Farnsworth: Nothing is impossible. Not if you can imagine it. That's what being a scientist is all about. Cubert: No, that's what being a magical elf is all about.
Why oh why do I read /. at work? Bursting out laughing in the middle of the cube farm can cause much staring...
But either way, if this is real, this could be a boon for many. Especially the young that face this and are being assaulted by their own hormones...
For some reasons parents don't mind violence,
We are born selfish and violent, lashing out (stomping feet, hitting, biting, scratch, hitting, etc) when we don't get want.
but show one schlong or some boobies, and that makes the movie off limits.
OTOH, we don't even start to become sexual beings until the early teen years. (Later, in cultures that aren't so sex-saturated as the US.)
Pretty screwed up world we live in.
Well, yes, but not for the reason you think.
You've never been outside the US then have you? England after watershed. The rest of Europe all the time. Nudity is kind of a fact of life everywhere but the censor happy US....
Stereotypes wouldn't be stereotypes if they didn't have some truth to them.
That's a farce and you know it.
Most of the people want the product now and are willing to pay for it. If you're willing to wait weeks, to import something from somewhere else, do all of the work calculating that you're going to save X dollars doing it, but how much is your time worth while doing this, and then waiting for it to be delivered?
People will pay X for lack of options that appeal to their sense of urgency. It's not discriminatory, it's the way the government has setup all of the rules that companies and people must abide by.
To reply to this, most software houses have places in Canada and the US, also US and Canada also have NAFTA, and they don't have the EU and England import policies and tariffs, and VAT.
Yes, and I agree. My issue is with the way it was worded. And I do apologize for misreading what your meaning.
The pricing issue is with how they are delivered, manufactured, produced, and if they an an actual factual product or a electronic download. International shipping, VAT, delivery, import costs and fees, licenses, customs, blah blah blah. All of these have time and money costs that change the overall valuation of the product.
And with the way the current system works, when the dollar falls in value, Americans would freak out if companies raised there prices accordingly to the supposed value. And the companies aren't inclined to lower their prices in other places to have it match that current value in America. It just doesn't work that way.
Also with products developed in english in america, they are always going to be inclined to charge more for it elsewhere as it's more work for them to follow all of the rules of import/export, and all of that good jazz, plus all of the work to create a localized version. That's basically what I am trying to express.
I love being rated down for being right!
I take this to mean he disagrees with my statement:
Then he states this:
Which I take to mean he believes that this Guitar is of the same price in Europe or US.
Eventhough the prices if exchange rates are applied are vastly different.
You fail. All of these products have localizations that are required to sell the product in that area. Just because the article is only about Europe doesn't mean that it doesn't hold true for everywhere else as well.
Actually that's my question for you.
$389 does not equal 399 Euros.
399 Euros = 626.2305 U.S. dollars
389 U.S. dollars = 247.849634 Euros
That's most likely because they have a local purchasing/store setup that they pass on the extra costs they incur for localizing and managing a product based on your original language. It sucks but that's the way it works currently, because of VAT and other international rules/laws.
Total Phale?
Because of tax issues etc. International is international even if you are on the same continent. Some places will ship across the Canada boarder, especially if you currently have a worldwide software contract for Microsoft, select or enterprise agreement.
Ok, how many localizations are you running? German, Italian, Russian, UK English, American English, French Canadian, French, Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, Latin American Spanish, Portuguese, Afrikaans, Arabic, Middle Eastern, Brazilian, Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, Estonian, Finnish, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Korean, Latvian, Lithuanian, Norwegian, Polish, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Swedish, Turkish, Ukrainian?
Then you have to look at operating expenses in these countries, as you require a distribution method, you have to pay the VAT, all of which are more expensive, also you have local tariffs, and import fees.
You also have issues with what contractual terms you can put into contracts when you are working with your customers, distribution, and employees, that are different from the US.
Managing localized technical support is another issue in itself. Multilingual, trained product experts. Aren't particularly cheap, and tend to not stay around very long.
Copyright law in Europe is a little bit different than the US and has its own issues, that you need to have experts for, when you are putting together ownership, especially determining what is copyright-able and patentable.
Not the same thing, and yet, your prices proved you were still wrong. WOW. 399 Euros = 626.2305 U.S. dollars 389 U.S. dollars = 247.849634 Euros
Go to a software vendor or reseller and get 2 comparable quotes 1 for US and 1 for Canada, have them both in USD, and they will either be the same or canada will be more expensive.
Actually, having to create a new version of the software that has NO demand, still costs them the same amount as it did to create the english localization, but has none of the returns. In comparison to the English version which is their bread and butter.
No offense to anyone that is Portuguese, but there probably isn't very much demand for Adobe Fireworks in Portuguese localization. So there is going to be a premium to get it.
Not sure about the patents thing in Europe, but I know Europe has a lot of issues that make selling software, managing copyrights, and protecting your intellectual property a difficult job at times. I think that the expectation based on those extra problems and difficulties would be that software would be more expensive.
Version localizations cost extra time and money. Localizing products are a logistical nightmare, all of the redoing everything, all of the retesting and then you have to have a separate distribution system to make sure that they can get the localized version they need.
No No, that's India, Iran, Japan, or Thailand. The flea markets with burned copies of the latest software, movies, games, everything, are pretty amazing.
I think in general, it's the best way to get his story heard. Make it public, bring in the Major, or even the governor, whatever, don't hand it over to the cops, that will just leave you high and dry with no outs. And make it so your story never gets heard.
Intelligent Sadistic Anarchistic Psychopath. He was amazing, true to form to the gritty, dark, real, version of Gotham City. Great performance.
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