That was kinda creepy, what do you mean? Also, tell me what was negative about me having sex when I was young? Oh wait, there wasn't anything and you're wrong.
Apples and oranges here, assembly lines are ways of making production more efficient, openness/Maker movements are about forming a "company" that aren't exactly "companies", it's simply that the management has changed, even though you're not required to get together.
Not only is it possible to get together to make an assembly line if that's what was wanted, but that's not really the point of the Maker movement so much. The Maker movement is more about fabricating anything someone needs when they need it. Mass production will only be useful if 3D printers aren't advanced enough yet to make complex things, requiring a lot of additional assembly that you don't want to take the time to do, and if you'd rather pay for that assembly that can be done by Makers getting together and forming assembly lines and selling that labor and product.
The "open"/social movements are here to stay and will only increase. Single companies cannot compete very well against the world except in niche areas or areas which require special equipment, but luckily that will be accessible as well via the Maker movement. Who knows, maybe you'll see almost a complete liberation from companies altogether eventually if anyone can easily "be" one.
It's true that there are some who are quite scientific-minded who still have irrational beliefs like religion. This is because religious beliefs are logical in and of themselves. If they didn't "make sense" to a degree, they would probably be too difficult for anyone to follow, or based entirely on emotional will. Science, curiosity, learning A causes B, it's all the same thing and is shared by all animals, but religion just happens to miss some major pieces tying their theories to reality. Science has theories too, and theories are good, the problem of course is strongly believing in them when you don't have good evidence to support them. Again, religion is logical and intelligent in and of itself, it's just that for it to all make sense, if you follow the logic back to the source justifications, you end up at "because God says so", the key point/roots/basis of the entire religious logical structure, and of course its flaw as well.
Sex that is positive, wanted, and truly loving in all ways is not bad, regardless of age. While the young and certain animal species may be more prone to being taken advantage of (raped in this case) by others for various reasons, and while doing so is obviously wrong, that in no way means "underaged" sex equals being wrong. Many, including myself, were sexually active from very early ages, and I cannot and will not condemn something which I myself enjoyed and which had no negative effects or ill will of any sort, just because I'm older now and can legally have sex, or just because it was more dangerous then. Everything was more dangerous then. Give me a hammer right now, I'd be more thoughtful about using it as I know more, but give me one back then and I could have been more reckless with it. That doesn't mean you make it illegal for youngins to wield hammers, it just means you keep a better watch, be a better teacher and parent, etc. While saying "no hammers" is one way out, it in no way means that allowing hammers in certain situations isn't okay.
Actually the close button is leftmost now and will stay leftmost, in the corner of the window where it normally is found on most any system which has any kind of button there. I always thought it was pretty silly how Windows did it, separating the close, minimize, and maximize buttons on the right side, but then putting them into a button/menu on the left side which could act as a close if double-clicked. They saw reasons for doing both schemes at once.
Fuck it, put buttons along the entire top of the window, that'll solve everything.:D
Obviously they try to provide you with what you want as well as telling you. If there were incredibly vast differences between what you actually wanted, and what you used, the moment competition came about it will be all over. Sure there are lots of unfair tactics and silly mind games at work as well, control of consumer products and advertisement being big parts of that, but hey it's the Internet age, those tactics are less relevant now at least.
If that's true and there are better systems, someone should slap MeeGo for lagging in adoption of better software, as well as every other distro..
Just wake me up when someone pushes a packaging format/system which can be universallly implemented or which is so great it makes the big distros switch. Or fuck it, just make the damn standards for everyone to easily adopt to make it possible to install any software on any distro that adopts said standards, and I'll switch to whatever distro uses it or make a new one.:P
Hell, even a distro based on Zero Install might be better than nothing, at least it can be easily installed on any existing distro.
Really? I thought openness and sharing information is what made the various open movements so great and powerful/valuable, like the open source software movement. Single individual collaboration between multiple individuals.
Funny thread, but in seriousness, if things were fair then either side should have the right to walk away I think, but if one side already has something of yours, then recovery of that is needed before you can stop doing business. In this regard, Paypal is a bunch of assholes. They held my money for ransom after scamming me. They tell you they have a "monthly withdraw limit" for your money. After withdrawing some funds and then waiting for three months for the limit to be raised again so I could withdraw more, I finally contacted them (something they make very difficult) and they told me that it would not raise until I had given them my social security number or bank account information. I demanded that my money be returned and my account closed, and they completely refused and held my money for random until I provided either of those things.
Reasons like that are why everyone should stay away and denounce Paypal when the opportunity arises.
As for the calculator I understand why he didn't find it. On Windows it's under Accessories and called "calculator", so easy to find for my brother. On Ubuntu it was buried under about 100 other programs and instead of "Calc" it's called "Kalc", so even for me it took awhile to find. It wasn't in alphabetical order."
Really confused as to what you're talking about here. Would post a screen shot but...I'm running Ubuntu 9.10. Applications > Accessories > Calculator. That's easier than Windows, as Windows requires going through one additional folder, "Programs", and on one computer here that I just tried it on, I also had to click on the double arrow "expand the freaking menu for me now" button as well, which hid the Windows Calculator from me.
The government consulting citizens about laws? Craziness!
OK, so this situation is a bit different, as it depends on whoever might be in the court that day instead of on a wide consensus of citizens, but I still wish the government actually asked citizens what they wanted, but everyone knows they don't want to as they want to stay in power.
No one from the government has yet asked me what I think about software patents! I don't want to go out demonstrating, it's cold out.:P
In fact, getting a little off topic, dare I say that regulations and monopolies are the #1 reason the economy and, taking a step back, the quality of life for everyone, sucks right now? It's true. The bigger the slice of pie that is being taken from the economy as a whole and used for pointless, wasteful reasons, the greater everyone's quality of life is deteriorated. See the parable of the broken window.
Along with my reply to the other commenter, I wanted to comment about your hardware argument too. Accepting things which are closed means headaches for developers as well as end users in countries where patent laws exist. This driving force will lead towards better support for open formats, just as the demand for open source drivers has led to better open source drivers, and the hardware will come about due to that success. Yes, Hollywood has backed H264, so there is a lot of that support around, but saying that everyone should follow them and support restricted formats is just asking for trouble. I agree with rebelling against closed formats, and think either supporting or ignoring them could have potentially good effects as far as getting rid of patents, but for the most part I think ignoring them and proving that openness is the better path might be more helpful not only now, so that no one has to worry, but in the future too as the helpfulness of software patents is hopefully re-examined by the courts.
Yes, the average joe is effected directly by how open something is and should care, as the things which revolve around that standard will be impacted depending on how open it is. This common short-sided view of "well as a consumer, I don't care, I just want it to work" is fail because there will be more OF that thing if it is more open, and that DOES effect joe shmoe.
This is just like with Linux and software for it. Yes, I DO care if it becomes adopted, as the more use it gets directly effects me and the number and quality of applications for that platform which I prefer to use, so of course I care about all issues which might impede or help that. You can even go a step further and say that the quality of life is better for everyone the more competition there is, and the cheaper things are, which is completely true. Getting rid of patents and other regulations which by doing so improve competition and make everything cheaper ultimately will make life better for everyone on the planet.
Yes, there is, as it's a threat to both end users and developers by countries which support patent laws. Accept that you should only support actual open standards, or accept that you are violating the law and expect a challenge. By all means, software patents should be challenged. It's up in the air as to whether supporting closed/patented things is helping or hindering those efforts. I think it could do either one. Supporting something closed could potentially be an argument against laws enforcing its restriction, while everyone rejecting things which are closed would make those things less relevant which will mean less incentives for companies to try to patent software.
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That was kinda creepy, what do you mean? Also, tell me what was negative about me having sex when I was young? Oh wait, there wasn't anything and you're wrong.
Apples and oranges here, assembly lines are ways of making production more efficient, openness/Maker movements are about forming a "company" that aren't exactly "companies", it's simply that the management has changed, even though you're not required to get together.
Not only is it possible to get together to make an assembly line if that's what was wanted, but that's not really the point of the Maker movement so much. The Maker movement is more about fabricating anything someone needs when they need it. Mass production will only be useful if 3D printers aren't advanced enough yet to make complex things, requiring a lot of additional assembly that you don't want to take the time to do, and if you'd rather pay for that assembly that can be done by Makers getting together and forming assembly lines and selling that labor and product.
No, I mean enjoying sex with others too.
The "open"/social movements are here to stay and will only increase. Single companies cannot compete very well against the world except in niche areas or areas which require special equipment, but luckily that will be accessible as well via the Maker movement. Who knows, maybe you'll see almost a complete liberation from companies altogether eventually if anyone can easily "be" one.
...is the only way to travel in short periods of time unless you want to cure aging so you actually live to see your destination.
It's true that there are some who are quite scientific-minded who still have irrational beliefs like religion. This is because religious beliefs are logical in and of themselves. If they didn't "make sense" to a degree, they would probably be too difficult for anyone to follow, or based entirely on emotional will. Science, curiosity, learning A causes B, it's all the same thing and is shared by all animals, but religion just happens to miss some major pieces tying their theories to reality. Science has theories too, and theories are good, the problem of course is strongly believing in them when you don't have good evidence to support them. Again, religion is logical and intelligent in and of itself, it's just that for it to all make sense, if you follow the logic back to the source justifications, you end up at "because God says so", the key point/roots/basis of the entire religious logical structure, and of course its flaw as well.
..calling the kettle black.
:P
But yes, just, pot in general, too.
Easy answer:
Sex that is positive, wanted, and truly loving in all ways is not bad, regardless of age. While the young and certain animal species may be more prone to being taken advantage of (raped in this case) by others for various reasons, and while doing so is obviously wrong, that in no way means "underaged" sex equals being wrong. Many, including myself, were sexually active from very early ages, and I cannot and will not condemn something which I myself enjoyed and which had no negative effects or ill will of any sort, just because I'm older now and can legally have sex, or just because it was more dangerous then. Everything was more dangerous then. Give me a hammer right now, I'd be more thoughtful about using it as I know more, but give me one back then and I could have been more reckless with it. That doesn't mean you make it illegal for youngins to wield hammers, it just means you keep a better watch, be a better teacher and parent, etc. While saying "no hammers" is one way out, it in no way means that allowing hammers in certain situations isn't okay.
Actually the close button is leftmost now and will stay leftmost, in the corner of the window where it normally is found on most any system which has any kind of button there. I always thought it was pretty silly how Windows did it, separating the close, minimize, and maximize buttons on the right side, but then putting them into a button/menu on the left side which could act as a close if double-clicked. They saw reasons for doing both schemes at once.
:D
Fuck it, put buttons along the entire top of the window, that'll solve everything.
j/k...
And also install adblock and flashblock.
Obviously they try to provide you with what you want as well as telling you. If there were incredibly vast differences between what you actually wanted, and what you used, the moment competition came about it will be all over. Sure there are lots of unfair tactics and silly mind games at work as well, control of consumer products and advertisement being big parts of that, but hey it's the Internet age, those tactics are less relevant now at least.
Yeeeeeeeaaaaahh. No.
Especially no to Bing. Don't get me wrong, all of them need competition, but just not...evil competition...from evil companies...lol.
It's a lot easier to have 12 million than it used to be.
If that's true and there are better systems, someone should slap MeeGo for lagging in adoption of better software, as well as every other distro..
:P
Just wake me up when someone pushes a packaging format/system which can be universallly implemented or which is so great it makes the big distros switch. Or fuck it, just make the damn standards for everyone to easily adopt to make it possible to install any software on any distro that adopts said standards, and I'll switch to whatever distro uses it or make a new one.
Hell, even a distro based on Zero Install might be better than nothing, at least it can be easily installed on any existing distro.
Phones should be like computers, and you should not have to code Android for specific phones other than giving Linux the needed drivers.
Whoops, supposed to be arrows there, didn't notice the Extrans selection, nice feature. :D
Really? I thought openness and sharing information is what made the various open movements so great and powerful/valuable, like the open source software movement. Single individual collaboration between multiple individuals.
Funny thread, but in seriousness, if things were fair then either side should have the right to walk away I think, but if one side already has something of yours, then recovery of that is needed before you can stop doing business. In this regard, Paypal is a bunch of assholes. They held my money for ransom after scamming me. They tell you they have a "monthly withdraw limit" for your money. After withdrawing some funds and then waiting for three months for the limit to be raised again so I could withdraw more, I finally contacted them (something they make very difficult) and they told me that it would not raise until I had given them my social security number or bank account information. I demanded that my money be returned and my account closed, and they completely refused and held my money for random until I provided either of those things.
Reasons like that are why everyone should stay away and denounce Paypal when the opportunity arises.
Oh, sorry for another post, but also they may wish to specifically not support Microsoft, too.
There's all kinds of reasons. New to Slashdot?
Because they like Linux, prefer to use it, and may want to support it instead?
Same reason any user wants a program to come to their preferred platform.
As for the calculator I understand why he didn't find it. On Windows it's under Accessories and called "calculator", so easy to find for my brother. On Ubuntu it was buried under about 100 other programs and instead of "Calc" it's called "Kalc", so even for me it took awhile to find. It wasn't in alphabetical order."
Really confused as to what you're talking about here. Would post a screen shot but...I'm running Ubuntu 9.10. Applications > Accessories > Calculator. That's easier than Windows, as Windows requires going through one additional folder, "Programs", and on one computer here that I just tried it on, I also had to click on the double arrow "expand the freaking menu for me now" button as well, which hid the Windows Calculator from me.
The government consulting citizens about laws? Craziness!
:P
OK, so this situation is a bit different, as it depends on whoever might be in the court that day instead of on a wide consensus of citizens, but I still wish the government actually asked citizens what they wanted, but everyone knows they don't want to as they want to stay in power.
No one from the government has yet asked me what I think about software patents! I don't want to go out demonstrating, it's cold out.
In fact, getting a little off topic, dare I say that regulations and monopolies are the #1 reason the economy and, taking a step back, the quality of life for everyone, sucks right now? It's true. The bigger the slice of pie that is being taken from the economy as a whole and used for pointless, wasteful reasons, the greater everyone's quality of life is deteriorated. See the parable of the broken window.
Along with my reply to the other commenter, I wanted to comment about your hardware argument too. Accepting things which are closed means headaches for developers as well as end users in countries where patent laws exist. This driving force will lead towards better support for open formats, just as the demand for open source drivers has led to better open source drivers, and the hardware will come about due to that success. Yes, Hollywood has backed H264, so there is a lot of that support around, but saying that everyone should follow them and support restricted formats is just asking for trouble. I agree with rebelling against closed formats, and think either supporting or ignoring them could have potentially good effects as far as getting rid of patents, but for the most part I think ignoring them and proving that openness is the better path might be more helpful not only now, so that no one has to worry, but in the future too as the helpfulness of software patents is hopefully re-examined by the courts.
Yes, the average joe is effected directly by how open something is and should care, as the things which revolve around that standard will be impacted depending on how open it is. This common short-sided view of "well as a consumer, I don't care, I just want it to work" is fail because there will be more OF that thing if it is more open, and that DOES effect joe shmoe.
This is just like with Linux and software for it. Yes, I DO care if it becomes adopted, as the more use it gets directly effects me and the number and quality of applications for that platform which I prefer to use, so of course I care about all issues which might impede or help that. You can even go a step further and say that the quality of life is better for everyone the more competition there is, and the cheaper things are, which is completely true. Getting rid of patents and other regulations which by doing so improve competition and make everything cheaper ultimately will make life better for everyone on the planet.
Yes, there is, as it's a threat to both end users and developers by countries which support patent laws. Accept that you should only support actual open standards, or accept that you are violating the law and expect a challenge. By all means, software patents should be challenged. It's up in the air as to whether supporting closed/patented things is helping or hindering those efforts. I think it could do either one. Supporting something closed could potentially be an argument against laws enforcing its restriction, while everyone rejecting things which are closed would make those things less relevant which will mean less incentives for companies to try to patent software.