To me, no, DRM is not, in pure concept bad. But in any resonable execution given modern tech and technological interfaces, it has no choice but to be bad.
Were a DRM soltuion introduced that ONLY prevented unlawful distribution, but allowed other legitimate uses (such as format/time shifting, playing on any device that stored that could play that classification of media, etc.), without having to give all kinds of personal data to the reps, or carry around large quantities/weights/volumes of DRM gagetry with you... then yes, it would be perfectly acceptable.
yes, and to most user the "open source" nature is completely irrelevant.
It, like other methods and philosophies has it's pros and cons. I'm glad not everythin is OSS, that way I can use the closed source software that ended up better in some areas, and the open source that ended up better in others.
On what planet did the writers come from? Apple is and has always been a company of control freaks. Not to say that every aspect of such behavior is bad, but it's often not good either.
(1) They control what hardware their OS will run on (2) They often tried (though not recently) to control what OS(es) will run on their hardware (3) They tried to control who/what could put songs on their iPods (4) They are trying to control what software can be Applied to their iPhones
They are all about control, and I would be more surprised if they weren't in the top 5 biggest DRM supports since they deal in music, than that they are the biggest DRM supporter.
Let Apple controle it. They seem to like putting all kinds of restrictions on their users... Geez, two days ago this device looked amazing, now it's just junk.
Hello, Apple? Consumer appliances/electronics should adapt themselves the the needs of their users, the users shouldn't have to adapt to the wants appliances/electronics.
spent waste is about 25-30 tonnes per reactor per year... There are 104 licensed reactors in the US alone...
so, minimum of 2500 tonnes per year. and a maximum of 3120 tonnes per year. And that's/just/ the US.
Assuming recovery of useful material mentiond in a another post, that's still 500 to 624 tonnes of nuclear garbage per year.
Any one have stats on (A) Cost per weight of lift (some sites said 10k/lb is a myth, and another mentioned a reuseable boost that could to 1.4k/lb, I'd like a decent verifiable source. (B) Does anyone know how much cargo we have lifted into space at this point total (mass), or how much we can lift per year?
Thanks.
Regardless, the numbers *don't* look feasable for this kind of operation.
Good: Having seen the software that comes on new prebuilt systems, crapplets is an awfully nice term to call them. I wouldn't mind seeing them go the way of the dinosaur.
Evil: This is about as immune to abuse as a government controlled press.
I know it's a phone primarily, but so is the phone I have clipped to my belt.
The PDA aspect of it is what intregues me. I guess I've always been leary of those PDA centric OSes on PDAs, having one that is a full-computer os is nice. Though I wouldn't mind a larger drive. Maybe make a slightly larger one with a 60GB hard drive, and I'd be in heaven.
3 doesn't apply to BSD, which is probably the biggest reason why it didn't get the lift-off that Linux got, even though it had a much earlier start (as an OS), and slightly earlier start (as a OSS OS), and arguably was better than Linux for quite a while in all other respects.
The BSD people are quite strict about the code, comment and doc quality of what goes into the kernel in comparison to those who work on Linux.
Freedom is the ability to make a choide. The GPL is *not* about freedom. It's about Openness. It makes several huge restrictions on what a person can do with GPLed software in order to keep it visible to all.
I've found, provided you have supported, FreeBSD has been just as easy to install as Linux (though not as pretty) as of version 6. As for administration, it's a bit more work to get off the ground, but with the documentation quality, I've found it easier to get running than Linux if you want to make any modifications over the base install beyond adding users. I used RH/Fedora for four years, Tried FreeBSD 5.4, wen't back to Fedora because the installer was pretty flakey. I then was talked into FreeBSD 6.0, and within two weeks never wanted to see Linux again. I was talked into Ubuntu, tried it for a month, and after issues with it's installer breaking things, went back to FreeBSD. I gave Gentoo a try, it had the feel of FreeBSD, but portage wasn't as reliable as ports in my experience, so I moved back to FreeBSD again.
And what license would you suggest? A more open but less free license, like the GPL?
Freedom means being able to make choices and decisions. Suggesting that using GPL, which is more restrictive of the choices avialable, over the BSD/MIT/LGPL/etc. licenses is not a push for freedom, it's a push for openness, there is a difference.
Stand on your platform all you like, but don't call it a name that would fool others into thinking it's anything other than what it is.
it's a criticsm if it's suggesting you are too stuck to them.
2 and 3 are particularly the criticisms...
2 - It's the same reason Windows is so big right now in areas where it shouldn't be 3 - It's great for the coders, but for the people who want to use it, but don't want to code, or for the people who may be good at writing code, but lousy at reading others, it's a major deficit.
I know this will get troll/flamebait, this community does not like criticism, even though taking it into account could cause improvements.
Seriously though, the thoughts are this:
(1) They are enamored by the GPL license. I'll grant for certain uses and purposes, it's an excellent license, even if I don't agree with it. (2) Momentum - Linux is the first OSS OS to gain popularity, and it hit it off big for such things. What this means is that it has more support and developers, which provides a more feature-filled system which brings the people and culture more of what they want. (3) Flexibility - I'm not sure the whole background of it, partially it's the GPL, partially it's the management, but the Linux system is highly flexible in terms of development, allowing people to develop their projects how they want to. Especially at the kernel level. It may not be a coders dream environment, but it's pretty close. (4) UNIX Like. I know ReactOS isn't Unix like, I don't know about the others. I know BSD, which you didn't mention, but lacks 1-3 is also a Unix OS. Regardless, the Unix methidologies are very comfortable to developers because (a) they are relatively regular in setup. (b) They tend to be highly modular, making things easier to work with and build - lots of re-use of things you made or thigns others made. B can exist in other OSes as well, but it isn't as pervasive as in the UNIX environments.
Note, there's probably a lot more to it than this, but this is what I've gathered from what I have seen and read on the various topics. and discussions.
Yum makes Windows Updates look stable, reliable and fast. I never want to see that buggy steaming pile again...
APT is better, almost tolerable, but you still have issues with it occasionally, at least I did.
Gentoo's system does the same thing, but I found the granularity of control is better documented. This means that I can use it in the same fashion as I'd use Yum or APT - namely tell it what I want, and it'll do the work, but additionally, I can more easily perform simple tweaks to fix problem packages. Also, I never found any way in Yum and APT to get a listing of what packages were available, and what specific names to use for them. I know that such exists, but the documentation isn't as good, and when there's a setup that lets me parse a nicely ordered directory structure and/or do keyword searches with the included metadata (a-la emerge or BSD ports), why the hell would I want to go back to Yum or APT.
The documentation makes the application as much as the coding.
Do we have the tech to set up a powerful and focused transmitter that would be recievable by standard radio devices on a planet (if we find one) that far away?
I can see it now.
"Citizens of Earth, the Xibian Communication Commision (XCC) is ordering a Cease and Desist of projection of signal on channel 88.6. Failure to follow this within the standard grace period of 1 Xibian day will result in fines of 100 Toriks per Xibian Day. Given that you are 50 Xibian years distant (as light travels), at 250 Xibian days per year... It really sucks to be you."
*NOTE: The site is flash so I can't copy and paste, these are hand copied, sorry for misspellings*::EMI:: Auf Der Maur Badly Drawn Boy Beth Orton Captain Corinne Bailey Ray David Gilmore Faith Evans Faultline FischerSpooner Hot Chip Iron Maiden John Cale Kate Bush Keren Ann Kraftwerk Pink Floyd Radio 4 Robbie Williams Saosin Shawn Emanuel Sigur Ros Starsailor Telepopmusik The Aliens The Concrete Vincent Van and the Villans::Heavenly Records:: Dove Ed Hardcourt The Little Ones The Magic Numbers The Vines::DFA Records:: Black Dice Delia Gonzalz & Gavin Russom The Juan Maclean::Positiva::::Positiva:: Deep Dish Ferry Corsten Paul Van Dyk Soul Avengerz Soul Seekers The Shapeshifters::Positiva::::Additive:: Remy
do you look at things in the worst possible light because you enjoy making nasty comments to people, or just because you are horribly pessimistic.
I was trying to turn a nasty comment into something pleasant and more motivational to independant developers rather than the "you are scum of the earth" type comment the person I quoted said.
Finally, yes, I do know of such a person, who is a "top star" coder, does maintenance, QA and documentation, but so what? You won't believe it and I'm certainly not giving out credentials of someone on a semi annonymous forum full of trolls, especially to someone who already has showing himself to be exceptionally negative.
[...] James Plamondon, a Microsoft technical evangelist, in a 1996 speech referred to independent software developers as 'pawns' [...]
There's nothing wrong with this statement:
1) More than one chess match has been won with proper use of pawns. More than one independant dev has made a product really work. 2) Short of the one you start with, the only way to get the most powerful piece on the board is... A PAWN. Some of the best developers come from the independant pool... 3) And yes, a lot of independant devs are nothing to write home about... Like many team devs.
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To me, no, DRM is not, in pure concept bad. But in any resonable execution given modern tech and technological interfaces, it has no choice but to be bad.
Were a DRM soltuion introduced that ONLY prevented unlawful distribution, but allowed other legitimate uses (such as format/time shifting, playing on any device that stored that could play that classification of media, etc.), without having to give all kinds of personal data to the reps, or carry around large quantities/weights/volumes of DRM gagetry with you... then yes, it would be perfectly acceptable.
not gonna happen.
yes, and to most user the "open source" nature is completely irrelevant.
It, like other methods and philosophies has it's pros and cons. I'm glad not everythin is OSS, that way I can use the closed source software that ended up better in some areas, and the open source that ended up better in others.
On what planet did the writers come from? Apple is and has always been a company of control freaks. Not to say that every aspect of such behavior is bad, but it's often not good either.
(1) They control what hardware their OS will run on
(2) They often tried (though not recently) to control what OS(es) will run on their hardware
(3) They tried to control who/what could put songs on their iPods
(4) They are trying to control what software can be Applied to their iPhones
They are all about control, and I would be more surprised if they weren't in the top 5 biggest DRM supports since they deal in music, than that they are the biggest DRM supporter.
Ironic isn't it? Aren't they the ones who's willing* financing made the whole (maritime) piracy thing big?
note: willing because the rest of the financers were typically not willing and were financers by force rather than option.
Let Apple controle it. They seem to like putting all kinds of restrictions on their users... Geez, two days ago this device looked amazing, now it's just junk.
Hello, Apple? Consumer appliances/electronics should adapt themselves the the needs of their users, the users shouldn't have to adapt to the wants appliances/electronics.
it got awfully iPwned from so many angles quite quickly.
but since we are talking about the US, where we *dont* recycle our waste due to cost, it's actually 5x that number, or $25 billion
spent waste is about 25-30 tonnes per reactor per year... There are 104 licensed reactors in the US alone...
/just/ the US.
so, minimum of 2500 tonnes per year. and a maximum of 3120 tonnes per year. And that's
Assuming recovery of useful material mentiond in a another post, that's still 500 to 624 tonnes of nuclear garbage per year.
Any one have stats on
(A) Cost per weight of lift (some sites said 10k/lb is a myth, and another mentioned a reuseable boost that could to 1.4k/lb, I'd like a decent verifiable source.
(B) Does anyone know how much cargo we have lifted into space at this point total (mass), or how much we can lift per year?
Thanks.
Regardless, the numbers *don't* look feasable for this kind of operation.
you were probably a fan of storing dates as 2 characters in the 90s a well...
Good: Having seen the software that comes on new prebuilt systems, crapplets is an awfully nice term to call them. I wouldn't mind seeing them go the way of the dinosaur.
Evil: This is about as immune to abuse as a government controlled press.
except in many cases the non-coders don't have the patience to deal with the lackluster documentation and go to other sources for their applications.
It's Linux...
I'll pass
I know it's a phone primarily, but so is the phone I have clipped to my belt.
The PDA aspect of it is what intregues me. I guess I've always been leary of those PDA centric OSes on PDAs, having one that is a full-computer os is nice. Though I wouldn't mind a larger drive. Maybe make a slightly larger one with a 60GB hard drive, and I'd be in heaven.
It's the first Apple product I really wanted.
A full fledged PC OS on a PDA, the phone part is nice too...
If they make those things for Sprint, I'd get one.
3 doesn't apply to BSD, which is probably the biggest reason why it didn't get the lift-off that Linux got, even though it had a much earlier start (as an OS), and slightly earlier start (as a OSS OS), and arguably was better than Linux for quite a while in all other respects.
The BSD people are quite strict about the code, comment and doc quality of what goes into the kernel in comparison to those who work on Linux.
Freedom is the ability to make a choide. The GPL is *not* about freedom. It's about Openness. It makes several huge restrictions on what a person can do with GPLed software in order to keep it visible to all.
I've found, provided you have supported, FreeBSD has been just as easy to install as Linux (though not as pretty) as of version 6. As for administration, it's a bit more work to get off the ground, but with the documentation quality, I've found it easier to get running than Linux if you want to make any modifications over the base install beyond adding users. I used RH/Fedora for four years, Tried FreeBSD 5.4, wen't back to Fedora because the installer was pretty flakey. I then was talked into FreeBSD 6.0, and within two weeks never wanted to see Linux again. I was talked into Ubuntu, tried it for a month, and after issues with it's installer breaking things, went back to FreeBSD. I gave Gentoo a try, it had the feel of FreeBSD, but portage wasn't as reliable as ports in my experience, so I moved back to FreeBSD again.
And what license would you suggest? A more open but less free license, like the GPL?
Freedom means being able to make choices and decisions. Suggesting that using GPL, which is more restrictive of the choices avialable, over the BSD/MIT/LGPL/etc. licenses is not a push for freedom, it's a push for openness, there is a difference.
Stand on your platform all you like, but don't call it a name that would fool others into thinking it's anything other than what it is.
it's a criticsm if it's suggesting you are too stuck to them.
2 and 3 are particularly the criticisms...
2 - It's the same reason Windows is so big right now in areas where it shouldn't be
3 - It's great for the coders, but for the people who want to use it, but don't want to code, or for the people who may be good at writing code, but lousy at reading others, it's a major deficit.
To choose exactly the same thing as they do.
I know this will get troll/flamebait, this community does not like criticism, even though taking it into account could cause improvements.
Seriously though, the thoughts are this:
(1) They are enamored by the GPL license. I'll grant for certain uses and purposes, it's an excellent license, even if I don't agree with it.
(2) Momentum - Linux is the first OSS OS to gain popularity, and it hit it off big for such things. What this means is that it has more support and developers, which provides a more feature-filled system which brings the people and culture more of what they want.
(3) Flexibility - I'm not sure the whole background of it, partially it's the GPL, partially it's the management, but the Linux system is highly flexible in terms of development, allowing people to develop their projects how they want to. Especially at the kernel level. It may not be a coders dream environment, but it's pretty close.
(4) UNIX Like. I know ReactOS isn't Unix like, I don't know about the others. I know BSD, which you didn't mention, but lacks 1-3 is also a Unix OS. Regardless, the Unix methidologies are very comfortable to developers because (a) they are relatively regular in setup. (b) They tend to be highly modular, making things easier to work with and build - lots of re-use of things you made or thigns others made. B can exist in other OSes as well, but it isn't as pervasive as in the UNIX environments.
Note, there's probably a lot more to it than this, but this is what I've gathered from what I have seen and read on the various topics. and discussions.
Yes...
Yum makes Windows Updates look stable, reliable and fast. I never want to see that buggy steaming pile again...
APT is better, almost tolerable, but you still have issues with it occasionally, at least I did.
Gentoo's system does the same thing, but I found the granularity of control is better documented. This means that I can use it in the same fashion as I'd use Yum or APT - namely tell it what I want, and it'll do the work, but additionally, I can more easily perform simple tweaks to fix problem packages. Also, I never found any way in Yum and APT to get a listing of what packages were available, and what specific names to use for them. I know that such exists, but the documentation isn't as good, and when there's a setup that lets me parse a nicely ordered directory structure and/or do keyword searches with the included metadata (a-la emerge or BSD ports), why the hell would I want to go back to Yum or APT.
The documentation makes the application as much as the coding.
It'll be either FreeBSD or if I have too much trouble getting that working, XP.
Do we have the tech to set up a powerful and focused transmitter that would be recievable by standard radio devices on a planet (if we find one) that far away?
I can see it now.
"Citizens of Earth, the Xibian Communication Commision (XCC) is ordering a Cease and Desist of projection of signal on channel 88.6. Failure to follow this within the standard grace period of 1 Xibian day will result in fines of 100 Toriks per Xibian Day. Given that you are 50 Xibian years distant (as light travels), at 250 Xibian days per year... It really sucks to be you."
This was the list on their website, as the other reply said, not a full historical list of everything they've done.
List by sub label. Taken from http://www.emirecords.co.uk/loader.html
::EMI:: ::Heavenly Records:: ::DFA Records:: ::Positiva:: ::Positiva:: ::Positiva:: ::Additive::
*NOTE: The site is flash so I can't copy and paste, these are hand copied, sorry for misspellings*
Auf Der Maur
Badly Drawn Boy
Beth Orton
Captain
Corinne Bailey Ray
David Gilmore
Faith Evans
Faultline
FischerSpooner
Hot Chip
Iron Maiden
John Cale
Kate Bush
Keren Ann
Kraftwerk
Pink Floyd
Radio 4
Robbie Williams
Saosin
Shawn Emanuel
Sigur Ros
Starsailor
Telepopmusik
The Aliens
The Concrete
Vincent Van and the Villans
Dove
Ed Hardcourt
The Little Ones
The Magic Numbers
The Vines
Black Dice
Delia Gonzalz & Gavin Russom
The Juan Maclean
Deep Dish
Ferry Corsten
Paul Van Dyk
Soul Avengerz
Soul Seekers
The Shapeshifters
Remy
do you look at things in the worst possible light because you enjoy making nasty comments to people, or just because you are horribly pessimistic.
I was trying to turn a nasty comment into something pleasant and more motivational to independant developers rather than the "you are scum of the earth" type comment the person I quoted said.
Finally, yes, I do know of such a person, who is a "top star" coder, does maintenance, QA and documentation, but so what? You won't believe it and I'm certainly not giving out credentials of someone on a semi annonymous forum full of trolls, especially to someone who already has showing himself to be exceptionally negative.