The other misconception is that we can point the finger at Linux developers and say, "It's your fault". We also need to blame hardware manufactuers. If you buy a new widget from Conglomco Technologies, you'll find discs and manuals for Windows, but nothing for Linux. Call Conglomco and complain. If possible, also return the product, inform the reseller why also, and then tell Conglomco you bought a competitor's product because of their lack of Linux support.
Agreed. If you show them that there are people who want Linux support and that brand loyalty does not stand up to that, they'll cave eventually. If they realise "wow we could've sold 200 more graphics cards if the Linux users weren't pissed at us", okay, 200? not a lot, but hey, that's money not in their pockets but now in their competition's pocket.
Ubuntu definitely allows dual boot. It has a partitioner in the installation. With Linux, you don't usually use NTFS, you'd use ext2 or ext3 or ext4 which have this nice non-fragmenting feature. If you need Windows to be able to read it, that's an exception, not the rule, which is why write-support for NTFS requires installing an extra component. Ubuntu's nice because most stuff doesn't require the command line, and copy and paste works fine for entering commands into the terminal. If you want to learn to use the command line, there's a book called the Linux Phrasebook that has it all (with nice explanations) in there.
Well, there's System76 for Ubuntu-pre-loaded systems, but they're EXPENSIVE! A desktop with the same specs as my laptop cost more than the laptop did ($850 vs $1100 I think). I did run across one company that did pre-loaded Linux at a price similar to what you'd pay in Best Buy, but it's an online store. Until there are walk-up stores selling them, it won't work.
I'd LIKE to open a small computer shop selling value-priced Linux computers and doing tech support either near a school or in a lower-class area. Students are poor and need cheap stuff. Lower class area because in most low-class areas, not everyone has a computer in their house because they can't afford it. If you can cater to that customer base (the ones who aren't worried about the latest nvidia card with 512 mb dedicated video memory and a 750 gb hard drive and 2 gb of etc, they just need a way for the kids to type a paper for school or look up information for a report), that's a good thing. People who normally couldn't have a computer can get one, and you can get Linux out there more.
Most programs compile the same way, right? cd to it, configure, make, make install, make clean....couldn't a program be written that executes those commands? Then you wouldn't even have to know how. Just have a right-click, "compile" option.
Well there are sites like linuxlaptops.org. My laptop wasn't on there, so I looked it all up before I bought it and figured most everything would work. I tested it from the Ubuntu live cd in the store (yay for confusing Geek Squad into letting you do that), and it seemed to work just fine. When I got it home, I found out the card reader on the side doesn't work. Eh, no big deal for me, but something someone might want to know. I added my laptop to the site's database to make it easier for more people in the future. If everyone running Linux on an OEM computer put their computer into a database of what models work and what models don't, that'd be helpful.
I can't set a VCR clock. I can't figure out how which of the 5 remotes to use at my dad's or how to use the universal remote at my mom's. Don't even ask me to figure out how you connect a DVD player, VCR, stereo, digital cable box, and Play Station all to the same tv. All to different tvs? I might be able to figure that out, but not all on one.
But I can use Linux (yes, with the command prompt) just fine.
Even keeping Windows in school they could still teach kids more about how to use computers. Teaching how to use MS Word and Powerpoint every year for 8 years? Uh...pointless! Teach them *something* useful at least. For that matter, do most kids know how to hook up their printer and monitor to the big grey box? Can they find and install drivers online if they don't have the disk for their printer? Can they run and update a virus scan, research on Google how to get rid of the virus, and do it? Not my siblings! That falls into basic research skills for that matter. If they can't get rid of a virus themselves, they're not ready for Linux that's more advanced than Linux XP--the command line would kill them. So, yeah, teach them how to maintain their Windows desktop as a stepping stool, then teach them something a bit harder. In high school, they should hopefully have enough knowledge of how computers work in general for you to get more specific and mention gcc, building from source, how to apt-get, and teach them that on a Linux box.
Last time I said something like this, I was told "they don't need to know IT." Here's the thing. I'm not saying make them IT Pros. I'm saying make them at least properly computer literate and able to fix simple problems on their own computer without running to the Geek Squad and spending $150 to copy files from an old hard drive to the new one.
No, because Outlook downloads the mail to your hard drive. If you want to have lots of room for your music, emails would just take up music space. Wireless access, that'd be nice because then you can access the email in a web-based way--where no hard drive space is taken up. Just throw Opera or on there (because it's lightweight and not IE--at least stop a few trojans) and it'd be cool.
It has to be hardware that went bad, because it's had Ubuntu on it since the day I bought it. It worked fine for a bit over 2 months, then it started acting up and overheating and all that. If Linux was the problem, it would've done this the whole time.
I use Linux. There's no MS stuff running unless I'm testing out a website on IE4Linux. And like I said, the keyboard and mouse stop working. I can't get to a task manager.
Mine would just shove the CPU to 100% every now and then and FF would freeze. It's entirely possible that this is my machine being stupid (broken) though. Something's up with the mobo. It goes up to 100% rather often and stays there, unable to use the keyboard or mouse, the speakers stop working, the fan doesn't spin (could be the source of the whole problem if it's overheating), cd drive randomly opens...I need to get around to sending it back to be replaced.
the empty car = terrorists one, or mine? if mine, thanks:)
If, in his state only one party has to be aware of the recording, it was legal. The law varies from state to state. Some states say recording it without both parties' consent is illegal. Some say only one has to know. If he knew he was being recorded and his state said he's the only one who has to know, it's perfectly legal.
Right so they're making you pay them more for something that they're blocking anyone else from offering at a better price. Gee, don't you love being told you have to pay more for a sub-par* product because every other one is incompatible?
*what? M$ is going to do anything that *isn't* sub-par when it comes to security?
My modem has one RJ45 out. That's what Comcast gave me when I signed up for cable internet. Then I bought a Linksys WRT54G and hooked it up to the one RJ45 out. That has 1 in and 4 outs. The Linksys is not a modem. It is a router. The router has multiple RJ45-outs. The modem only has one.
You even said it right here: It's almost exclusively cable providers that provide systems with only one RJ45 port (and typically those systems also have an optional USB port - which is on some, but not most DSL modems). The cable company gives you a modem with one ethernet-out. Where are you getting cable internet that isn't from the cable company?
Okay, the thing you named does have a modem in with the router, but heck, if I'm getting a free modem from the cable company, I'm not going to buy another modem when I have a free one. I'll just hook up a cheap router rather than pay for a 2-in-1 when I have one of the two already.
Find one and start bitching. If it's not fixed within a week of your public bitching (which must be online, not to Aunt Sally), then complain about how insecure *nix is.
Howabout Avast? It's free (woo!). I use it to keep from sending virus-ified Windows files to Windows users (it's not like I'd notice if there was a virus on mine cuz it'd be dormant).
hahhaha You're right, the US actually has relatively SLOW internet. We should be assuming fiber optics for East Asia ^_^ You did know that Asia has much faster internet than the US, right? Actually, a large chunk of Americans are/still/ using dial-up (*gag!*) Maybe in 3rd world countries it's all dial-up, but then, do they even have computers of their own? Oh, and yeah, you're right though about 4-port modems. I can tell you for damn sure my modem only has 1 RJ45. The router has 4 out though. Shouldn't mix up hardware components like that.
I agree. If the issues are the same as in the old but there are any benefits to an upgrade and no detractors (like paying $200 for the new Windows which you don't need), do the upgrade. FF 2.0 hasn't crashed on me. 1.5 used to crash 5-10 times a day.
I thought the deal was that USERS have to have the source code available to them. So, if you buy the program, you are entitled to the code. If you didn't buy it, you can buy the program then get the code to go with it. That's under the assumption that someone else didn't just put it back out, though.
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well if you're using "ewok" for your E word, wouldn't that come across to non-sci-fi people as "walk" and then they type a w?
Well, yeah, I agree. It's always nicest to have a .deb or .rpm available, but for some reason (no idea why) a lot of programs don't have that.
Ubuntu definitely allows dual boot. It has a partitioner in the installation. With Linux, you don't usually use NTFS, you'd use ext2 or ext3 or ext4 which have this nice non-fragmenting feature. If you need Windows to be able to read it, that's an exception, not the rule, which is why write-support for NTFS requires installing an extra component. Ubuntu's nice because most stuff doesn't require the command line, and copy and paste works fine for entering commands into the terminal. If you want to learn to use the command line, there's a book called the Linux Phrasebook that has it all (with nice explanations) in there.
Well, there's System76 for Ubuntu-pre-loaded systems, but they're EXPENSIVE! A desktop with the same specs as my laptop cost more than the laptop did ($850 vs $1100 I think). I did run across one company that did pre-loaded Linux at a price similar to what you'd pay in Best Buy, but it's an online store. Until there are walk-up stores selling them, it won't work.
I'd LIKE to open a small computer shop selling value-priced Linux computers and doing tech support either near a school or in a lower-class area. Students are poor and need cheap stuff. Lower class area because in most low-class areas, not everyone has a computer in their house because they can't afford it. If you can cater to that customer base (the ones who aren't worried about the latest nvidia card with 512 mb dedicated video memory and a 750 gb hard drive and 2 gb of etc, they just need a way for the kids to type a paper for school or look up information for a report), that's a good thing. People who normally couldn't have a computer can get one, and you can get Linux out there more.
Most programs compile the same way, right? cd to it, configure, make, make install, make clean....couldn't a program be written that executes those commands? Then you wouldn't even have to know how. Just have a right-click, "compile" option.
Well there are sites like linuxlaptops.org. My laptop wasn't on there, so I looked it all up before I bought it and figured most everything would work. I tested it from the Ubuntu live cd in the store (yay for confusing Geek Squad into letting you do that), and it seemed to work just fine. When I got it home, I found out the card reader on the side doesn't work. Eh, no big deal for me, but something someone might want to know. I added my laptop to the site's database to make it easier for more people in the future. If everyone running Linux on an OEM computer put their computer into a database of what models work and what models don't, that'd be helpful.
I can't set a VCR clock. I can't figure out how which of the 5 remotes to use at my dad's or how to use the universal remote at my mom's. Don't even ask me to figure out how you connect a DVD player, VCR, stereo, digital cable box, and Play Station all to the same tv. All to different tvs? I might be able to figure that out, but not all on one. But I can use Linux (yes, with the command prompt) just fine.
Even keeping Windows in school they could still teach kids more about how to use computers. Teaching how to use MS Word and Powerpoint every year for 8 years? Uh...pointless! Teach them *something* useful at least. For that matter, do most kids know how to hook up their printer and monitor to the big grey box? Can they find and install drivers online if they don't have the disk for their printer? Can they run and update a virus scan, research on Google how to get rid of the virus, and do it? Not my siblings! That falls into basic research skills for that matter. If they can't get rid of a virus themselves, they're not ready for Linux that's more advanced than Linux XP--the command line would kill them. So, yeah, teach them how to maintain their Windows desktop as a stepping stool, then teach them something a bit harder. In high school, they should hopefully have enough knowledge of how computers work in general for you to get more specific and mention gcc, building from source, how to apt-get, and teach them that on a Linux box.
Last time I said something like this, I was told "they don't need to know IT." Here's the thing. I'm not saying make them IT Pros. I'm saying make them at least properly computer literate and able to fix simple problems on their own computer without running to the Geek Squad and spending $150 to copy files from an old hard drive to the new one.
No, because Outlook downloads the mail to your hard drive. If you want to have lots of room for your music, emails would just take up music space. Wireless access, that'd be nice because then you can access the email in a web-based way--where no hard drive space is taken up. Just throw Opera or on there (because it's lightweight and not IE--at least stop a few trojans) and it'd be cool.
It has to be hardware that went bad, because it's had Ubuntu on it since the day I bought it. It worked fine for a bit over 2 months, then it started acting up and overheating and all that. If Linux was the problem, it would've done this the whole time.
I use Linux. There's no MS stuff running unless I'm testing out a website on IE4Linux. And like I said, the keyboard and mouse stop working. I can't get to a task manager.
Mine would just shove the CPU to 100% every now and then and FF would freeze. It's entirely possible that this is my machine being stupid (broken) though. Something's up with the mobo. It goes up to 100% rather often and stays there, unable to use the keyboard or mouse, the speakers stop working, the fan doesn't spin (could be the source of the whole problem if it's overheating), cd drive randomly opens...I need to get around to sending it back to be replaced.
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the empty car = terrorists one, or mine? if mine, thanks
You think 2.0 is slower/crashier than 1.5.0.7? The old one locked up on me at least 3 or 4 times a day. 2.0 never does.
If, in his state only one party has to be aware of the recording, it was legal. The law varies from state to state. Some states say recording it without both parties' consent is illegal. Some say only one has to know. If he knew he was being recorded and his state said he's the only one who has to know, it's perfectly legal.
Right so they're making you pay them more for something that they're blocking anyone else from offering at a better price. Gee, don't you love being told you have to pay more for a sub-par* product because every other one is incompatible? *what? M$ is going to do anything that *isn't* sub-par when it comes to security?
My modem has one RJ45 out. That's what Comcast gave me when I signed up for cable internet. Then I bought a Linksys WRT54G and hooked it up to the one RJ45 out. That has 1 in and 4 outs. The Linksys is not a modem. It is a router. The router has multiple RJ45-outs. The modem only has one.
You even said it right here:
It's almost exclusively cable providers that provide systems with only one RJ45 port (and typically those systems also have an optional USB port - which is on some, but not most DSL modems).
The cable company gives you a modem with one ethernet-out. Where are you getting cable internet that isn't from the cable company?
Okay, the thing you named does have a modem in with the router, but heck, if I'm getting a free modem from the cable company, I'm not going to buy another modem when I have a free one. I'll just hook up a cheap router rather than pay for a 2-in-1 when I have one of the two already.
Find one and start bitching. If it's not fixed within a week of your public bitching (which must be online, not to Aunt Sally), then complain about how insecure *nix is.
Howabout Avast? It's free (woo!). I use it to keep from sending virus-ified Windows files to Windows users (it's not like I'd notice if there was a virus on mine cuz it'd be dormant).
hahhaha You're right, the US actually has relatively SLOW internet. We should be assuming fiber optics for East Asia ^_^ You did know that Asia has much faster internet than the US, right? Actually, a large chunk of Americans are /still/ using dial-up (*gag!*) Maybe in 3rd world countries it's all dial-up, but then, do they even have computers of their own? Oh, and yeah, you're right though about 4-port modems. I can tell you for damn sure my modem only has 1 RJ45. The router has 4 out though. Shouldn't mix up hardware components like that.
Right. Asia and Europe love Linux. Add in that "$100 Laptop" and you'll have a large chunk of Africa and South America.
I agree. If the issues are the same as in the old but there are any benefits to an upgrade and no detractors (like paying $200 for the new Windows which you don't need), do the upgrade. FF 2.0 hasn't crashed on me. 1.5 used to crash 5-10 times a day.
The fact that M$ decided to make VB6 break by making VB.net is just lovely, isn't it?
VB. It's not even a real language. It's just clicking around.
I thought the deal was that USERS have to have the source code available to them. So, if you buy the program, you are entitled to the code. If you didn't buy it, you can buy the program then get the code to go with it. That's under the assumption that someone else didn't just put it back out, though.