Well, that's the best way to learn. Fuck your system up? Won't do that again. That's how I learned. The problem is that older than college age people had to know how to use a computer to do menial tasks. College students are of the age where we probably started out with Windows 95. We know how to use Windows for basic stuff, and we've always had someone older to fix it or do it for us. Some of us are the oldest in the family (like me) with parents who are too much older to have learned all the techno-crap back when older-than-college people would have been learning to fix their own problems. For us, we have enough know-how to fix it for the youngers (which only makes them worse), but we still can easily get a bit O.O when someone says they used DOS. We never had to use that, so it's weird to us. I saw it being used yesterday and got confused. I wanted bash back. The "family tech support" people and those 25-40 years old are the only computer literate people left, pretty much. Everyone older or younger has that middle generation fixing things for them, so they don't learn. We need to stop fixing things for them. I think I'll teach my siblings "RTFM";)
Just like what Bill Gates said in his Open Letter to Hobbyists. "One thing you do do is prevent good software from being written. Who can afford to do professional work for nothing? What hobbyist can put 3-man years into programming, finding all bugs, documenting his product and distribute for free? The fact is, no one besides us has invested a lot of money in hobby software. We have written 6800 BASIC, and are writing 8080 APL and 6800 APL, but there is very little incentive to make this software available to hobbyists. Most directly, the thing you do is theft." Right, nobody has enough time to be both a coder and a debugger unless their getting paid. Sure...
And FF averaged 24 hours on their bug-fix-time (it was on here somewhere), while we all know how the release-exploits-on-second-Wednesday thing works to get a month before Patch Tuesday with IE.
Is the AC British? If so, you just reminded me who she is. She's who the Specials (or Special AKA, whatever) meant when they covered "Maggie's Farm" and when they wrote "The Lunatics are Taking Over the Asylum" and their point of blame for "Ghost Town".
I live in the US so I don't know about the rest of the world; are now shipping with WEP or WAP turned on. I could be wrong in this notion... I have an older AP.
No, they ship with the *ability* to use WEP, WPA, or WPA2. They don't turn it on for you. That would require them making up a new password for each one. They're not going to do that. If they put a password, it would be a default password, and we all know how THOSE work.
hahhaha Well, to be fair to the M$ Grammar Checker, it IS considered wrong these days, but it's a double standard. The classics which used it are just fine, but if you use it now it's bad. It doesn't make sense, and passive voice sounds right sometimes. I've had English teachers say they think there's nothing wrong with passive voice if you use it right.
Oh that's a new "grammar" thing. They think it's bad not to be active, as if it takes away from the meaning. You don't see anyone saying Shakespeare couldn't write because he used passive voice, do you? Passive voice is just fine and makes sense in certain circumstances.
Oh, that's just the CS stuff. I'm taking Japanese and Russian, and we're required to take a writing class every year. Then because of IA, I have a lot of social sciences, politics, history, and humanities classes.
Well, I'm doing CS as my second major (Int'l Affairs being first), and this is what I'm taking:
Intro. to Software Development (my intro to OOP with Java class covered this)
Discrete Structures
Algorithms and Data Structures
Intro to Computer Organization
Software Engineering I
Database Systems I
Intro to Operating Systems
Software Engineering II
UNIX System Programming
UNIX System Administration
Development of Open Source Software
Plus a team programming project and some other elective that I forgot (Design of UI Programs, I think). The BS requires a lot more, but I'm just doing a BA (less math! yay!)
If you're going to do web design you better know a crapload of CSS too. And it's HTML (not HTLM). CSS loads a lot faster than tables and it makes it easier to redo the whole site. It's like writing a method for something that will be done over and over in your program and just calling it rather than putting all of your code in one giant program which takes longer to load and requires retyping the same bit of code over and over and over.
Last January, I think. Maybe it's not changing til this January, but I'm pretty sure I heard "at the beginning of next year" last year and not this year.
Even without the A+. You can get on the job training for whatever you don't already know, and take the A+ exams within 6 months. Sometimes the employer will pay for that, but not always. It's $320 for the certs though.
When was that? Even before 11/9 I needed a passport to get between the US and the UK (and I'm a US citizen regardless of how I choose to spell and write the date). I needed a US passport to get to Aruba 2 months ago. The only other country that didn't require a passport was Canada, though that has since changed.
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Well, that's the best way to learn. Fuck your system up? Won't do that again. That's how I learned. The problem is that older than college age people had to know how to use a computer to do menial tasks. College students are of the age where we probably started out with Windows 95. We know how to use Windows for basic stuff, and we've always had someone older to fix it or do it for us. Some of us are the oldest in the family (like me) with parents who are too much older to have learned all the techno-crap back when older-than-college people would have been learning to fix their own problems. For us, we have enough know-how to fix it for the youngers (which only makes them worse), but we still can easily get a bit O.O when someone says they used DOS. We never had to use that, so it's weird to us. I saw it being used yesterday and got confused. I wanted bash back. The "family tech support" people and those 25-40 years old are the only computer literate people left, pretty much. Everyone older or younger has that middle generation fixing things for them, so they don't learn. We need to stop fixing things for them. I think I'll teach my siblings "RTFM" ;)
Just like what Bill Gates said in his Open Letter to Hobbyists. "One thing you do do is prevent good software from being written. Who can afford to do professional work for nothing? What hobbyist can put 3-man years into programming, finding all bugs, documenting his product and distribute for free? The fact is, no one besides us has invested a lot of money in hobby software. We have written 6800 BASIC, and are writing 8080 APL and 6800 APL, but there is very little incentive to make this software available to hobbyists. Most directly, the thing you do is theft." Right, nobody has enough time to be both a coder and a debugger unless their getting paid. Sure...
0% here :)
it was far from pr0n though...no more sexual than the Sistine Chapel ceiling
And FF averaged 24 hours on their bug-fix-time (it was on here somewhere), while we all know how the release-exploits-on-second-Wednesday thing works to get a month before Patch Tuesday with IE.
Thank you. Someone gets it.
99% of /. is using Linux. Only 1% will be affected.
The Gospel of Tux?
Is the AC British? If so, you just reminded me who she is. She's who the Specials (or Special AKA, whatever) meant when they covered "Maggie's Farm" and when they wrote "The Lunatics are Taking Over the Asylum" and their point of blame for "Ghost Town".
I live in the US so I don't know about the rest of the world; are now shipping with WEP or WAP turned on. I could be wrong in this notion... I have an older AP. No, they ship with the *ability* to use WEP, WPA, or WPA2. They don't turn it on for you. That would require them making up a new password for each one. They're not going to do that. If they put a password, it would be a default password, and we all know how THOSE work.
hahhaha Well, to be fair to the M$ Grammar Checker, it IS considered wrong these days, but it's a double standard. The classics which used it are just fine, but if you use it now it's bad. It doesn't make sense, and passive voice sounds right sometimes. I've had English teachers say they think there's nothing wrong with passive voice if you use it right.
Fine, the Windows GUI isn't Windows either. Only the NT kernel is. The NT kernel doesn't have sounds! Wah! Wah! Wah!
Mac OS sort of IS a BSD isn't it? I mean, it's Unix-based and not showing the changes to the source code....that's how *BSD licenses work isn't it?
Oh that's a new "grammar" thing. They think it's bad not to be active, as if it takes away from the meaning. You don't see anyone saying Shakespeare couldn't write because he used passive voice, do you? Passive voice is just fine and makes sense in certain circumstances.
But if you don't really like math, engineering would be baaaaad. Way too much math in that. Bleh.
http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/geeksAreSexyTechnol ogyNews/~3/46201042/hacking-democracy-video.html
Howabout watching that video? Even without touching any of the counting machines, someone was able to make the optical scanners count something ENTIRELY different from what was put in. On touch screens, different names come up. You're saying something's NOT wrong with that?
If CS isn't applied science, why is it in the School of Engineering and Applied Sciences at GWU?
Oh yeah, my ex had his credit ruined by a client whose check bounced on a web design project (or maybe it was graphics? whatever).
Aw I hate math, but I can do it just fine. Programming and tinkering with bits and pieces of hardware are certainly fun though.
Oh, that's just the CS stuff. I'm taking Japanese and Russian, and we're required to take a writing class every year. Then because of IA, I have a lot of social sciences, politics, history, and humanities classes.
- Intro. to Software Development (my intro to OOP with Java class covered this)
- Discrete Structures
- Algorithms and Data Structures
- Intro to Computer Organization
- Software Engineering I
- Database Systems I
- Intro to Operating Systems
- Software Engineering II
- UNIX System Programming
- UNIX System Administration
- Development of Open Source Software
Plus a team programming project and some other elective that I forgot (Design of UI Programs, I think). The BS requires a lot more, but I'm just doing a BA (less math! yay!)If you're going to do web design you better know a crapload of CSS too. And it's HTML (not HTLM). CSS loads a lot faster than tables and it makes it easier to redo the whole site. It's like writing a method for something that will be done over and over in your program and just calling it rather than putting all of your code in one giant program which takes longer to load and requires retyping the same bit of code over and over and over.
Last January, I think. Maybe it's not changing til this January, but I'm pretty sure I heard "at the beginning of next year" last year and not this year.
Even without the A+. You can get on the job training for whatever you don't already know, and take the A+ exams within 6 months. Sometimes the employer will pay for that, but not always. It's $320 for the certs though.
When was that? Even before 11/9 I needed a passport to get between the US and the UK (and I'm a US citizen regardless of how I choose to spell and write the date). I needed a US passport to get to Aruba 2 months ago. The only other country that didn't require a passport was Canada, though that has since changed.