kumyuters tot me 2 kummunek8 real gud. c? i cn spel nethin u want me 2 n u cn understand al of it right?
Seriously, if you've seen how most of the kids who grow up with computers communicate online, you know that what you said is absolutely bogus. What students need is proper spelling (instant messaging does not encourage this), proper grammar, and knowledge of at least one (foreign language). Those are what you need to communicate in the business world. You do not need to know how to IM or use IRC, and either way any kid figured out IM by middle school. You're not teaching them anything new.
Computer skills (of a real sort) aren't needed by most people. A large chunk need to be able to type an email and *maybe* a letter in Word. There's also where my mom works. She can't use computers for more than emailing me and typing a recipe. She doesn't have to use a computer for work at all. She drives all over the state visiting customers and picking up orders, calls the office and gives the orders to the secretary who enters them in the computer. I'm sure there are a lot of people like her who can do their jobs without ever touching a computer.
Not necessarily. If the students are tested by someone other than the teacher, the teacher has incentive to actually teach. Students who aren't the academic type might prefer hands-on stuff to reading about the Bayeaux Tapestry. By "academic type", I mean nose-in-a-book. You know those teachers who know everything about everything and you can't figure out where they got it all? They're "academics." They live for learning. They also seem to be history teachers (and I see good reason for this--they know the history of practically everything). Some people would prefer to grab an erector set and build something. I'm a bit of a hybrid because I love books AND breaking/building/breaking things (yes, in that order, it's like reverse-engineering physical things), but most people seem to go one way or the other (the hybrids become engineering students). There are special art schools with no real stigma attached (more likely to hear something like "she'll be the next Mary Cassatt"). There shouldn't be a stigma about tech/trade schools either. Some people love technology but would rather spend their time as a sysadmin than a code monkey. The sysadmins go to tech school. The code monkeys go to uni. I don't really know much about trade school things that aren't technical because I'm not interested in them, but I recall commercials with stuff about nursing, so I'll use that as an example. Nursing is a good job. You get good pay coming out of school. You can get multiple levels of nursing certification at a trade school. If after a few of them you decide to go to medical school, you have real world in-hospital experience, and that helps. If the hospital you work in is attached to a uni, you might get a discount at the uni because you're an employee.
My high school had that system too. A few of my cousins went to the trade school half-day to get EMT certified. I wanted to go get Cisco certified but my mom said that if I did that instead of staying in the high school with all honors classes, I'd have a tough time getting into college. I tried to argue since I wanted to go into a computer field anyway and this'd just be extra computer classes (my high school only offered visual basic and java for computer classes), but she wouldn't let me go. I didn't like that whole "graduation requirements only" thing that would result from going to the tech school. Then I couldn't take a foreign language and either chorus or programming classes every year. I had one year where I did a half-day, but I was in a community college for half-day senior year. The classes during the high school half of the day were all either AP or taught under the authority of the University of Pittsburgh for me to get credit that way. I'm a second semester college student and after next week's finals I'll have a first-semester junior's credit level, so hey that's a good thing. About parents forcing kids into college: yeah. My parents want me to be here. I would be fine with getting Cisco and Linux certifications and being a sysadmin, but I like programming and languages, and tech schools don't give you the room to move around and have 3 concentrations like I do. For kids like me, a technical uni (like Carnegie Mellon or MIT) is probably best. You get all the technological goodness and a nice geeky environment, but you can still pursue other non-technical areas of study. Unfortunately, I'm not at either of those schools because of location. My other major is International Affairs, and DC is sort of "the place to be" for that.
What use has a middle or high school student for ANY of that? That's stuff someone might need their 3rd or 4th year of college IF they go into a specific field that requires it. Further, it is useless to learn MS Office. You can learn using OOo just fine. It'll all translate. It's just typing, indenting, bolding, blah blah blah when it comes to Writer/Word. Excel? Most people have no idea you can put equations in there, anyway. They figure out with a calculator and type in the values.
What exactly is Silverlight? The name made me think of Quicksilver on a Mac, but looking at MS's site it looks like they're reinventing Flash. ewwwwwwww
Exactly. Everything you could ever need to do on Linux, you can do from the shell if you know the commands. Windows? Most programs don't take command line arguments or run in command line mode. That's part of why cmd.exe is so useless. There are no apps that make use of it. There's also the lack of things like grep, sed, etc. in the cmd.exe that make it useless. Bash has all of that, and it has had it for ages. The PowerShell is just MS trying to make an actual useful shell like we have because the old one was so bad.
Getting into the dictator's face and cursing him out is never a good strategy. Both manage to make the dictator feel less "ganged up on" and thus more likely to cooperate. Carter is considered the best negotiator we've had. I wouldn't call Richardson a pushover either. He successfully got hostages back from Iraq, Cuba, and North Korea. He's known by other nation's leaders as the guy who will be able to make a fair deal, instead of being like the French after WWI, the ones who forced heavy & unfair reparationz.
Actually, the GP was referring to "generic presidential candidate Q" in which case the person could be a "he," "she," or "ze," though I doubt a "ze" is likely to be elected president in this country any time soon. We're talking about grammar now, anyway.
There's also giving "example names" (think of John Doe / Jane Doe) which are gender neutral, like Joey. That could be a girl named Josephine or a boy named Joseph. Or use "Sam" (Samuel/Samantha) or something like that.
Bill Clinton and Richardson are both rather moderate, at least in necessary ways. It's been said that any anti-gun-control southern Democrat could take this country. That's Richardson. There's plenty of southerners who vote Republican simply because "them Dem-oh-crats want ter take mah guns away." He was endorsed by the NRA when he ran for Gov. the first time. He had a shooting range renovated for the National Police Shooting Competition.
Looking at this, I see something I like. He wants to promote learning foreign languages in school. I definitely agree with that. The easiest time to learn a new language is when you're really little. Kindergarten - 2nd grade is a good time to start. It's ridiculous that public schools tend to start in 8th grade or high school. I went to a Catholic school and started in Kindergarten. Even if it's not a language you intend to speak as an adult (might switch languages like I did, from Spanish to Japanese), just learning one when you're younger gives you a better grasp on how language works *in general* and how parts of speech interact (students in my Russian class didn't know what a direct object was, which annoyed the professor). Once you get one foreign language, learning any other language becomes much easier.
Richardson also has a marvelous foreign policy history. He's nearly on Carter's level when it comes to diplomacy. N. Korea specifically requested that he be the US negotiator because he's so good. He negotiated with Saddam and Cuba before. He's very good at getting back hostages and things like that. He has UN experience. Also, for the environmentally-concerned folks out there, he was Clinton's Secretary of Energy, and he has pushed a lot of energy-saving low-environmental-impact legislation through New Mexico's state government.
Or you could say "one" or "a person" or "he or she." Traditionally, it's always "he," but that is lately considered wrong. As you noted, women have started using "she." I tend to think of people online as "she" when I don't know his or her gender, but I rarely type it because I know that in the circles where I am visible (hint: this kind, the techie kind), there aren't nearly as many "she"s as "he"s.
Uh, plural for virus is viruses. It'd have to be virius to pluralize to virii. But yeah doesn't "boxen" go back to the old hackers? Boxen and unices (instead of unixes). Boxen is in the Jargon File / Hacker Dictionary: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/B/boxen.html
The north's not the only "far the from the equator" place. How about southern parts of Africa? Are the people there really pale because of Vitamin D? No? Oh, that can't be it then.
I've used one. It is a real computer,though the keyboard's not clicky (it's actually very squishy and very rubber, not even hard keycaps, but it's also probably waterproof which is good) and is extremely tiny (perfect for child fingers). I was a bit confused by the UI, but then I grew up on Windows and then switched go GNOME. It's an entirely different way of thinking about UI and how you interact with it. There are 3 touchpads. One controls the mouse, though I forget what the other two do. I do agree that they need food and water, but I think this is aimed more at areas where there are a lot of not-too-poor-for-school (you can be too poor for free school if the opportunity cost of school is a bunch of money you need to make at a job to feed your family) but still not rich enough to have a computer at home families. There are a lot of families here in the US which don't have computers. They have to use the ones at libraries. That can be a problem with research papers depending on the library. The one at home closes at 6 on Fridays and stays closed on weekends (may have added 10-2 on Saturdays). My school has a 24hr library, which gets used quite a bit. If your area doesn't have a 24hr library though, you have a very limited amount of time during which you can do research considering that you're in school more than half of the hours during which the library is open. For people who have a trailer-park-quality life, the OLPC would be perfect.
Apathetic wankers like you are the reason this country's going to Hell in a handbasket. Votes matter. If you think there is anything wrong with this country but you did not vote you CANNOT complain. You had the chance to do something about it, but you didn't. Voting is not just for old people. Everyone capable of making an informed decision should vote. Check out a voter guide, decide with which candidate you agree the most, and take 10 minutes out of your lunch hour to vote in primaries and general elections. It's really not that difficult. People who can vote but don't suck. Hell, my roommate knew the election in her state was going to be close, but by election day her absentee ballot hadn't shown up. She caught a train home so she could vote.
Almost all HPs have Linux drivers, and their drivers, along with HPLIP are included in Ubuntu by default. HPLIP used to be rather uh...bleh....but the one in 7.04 is very nice. It even shows ink levels for the printer, which I've never seen on an HP on Windows (only on Lexmarks). I once wondered aloud about why HPs tend to work so well, and was told it's because of Linux printservers. I would put anything in the "perfectly" or "mostly" under the category of "works" since the extra stuff (like the print level reporting) isn't exactly a necessity, just a "nice to have." There's 11 non-working as compared to...about 200 working ones?
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kumyuters tot me 2 kummunek8 real gud. c? i cn spel nethin u want me 2 n u cn understand al of it right?
Seriously, if you've seen how most of the kids who grow up with computers communicate online, you know that what you said is absolutely bogus. What students need is proper spelling (instant messaging does not encourage this), proper grammar, and knowledge of at least one (foreign language). Those are what you need to communicate in the business world. You do not need to know how to IM or use IRC, and either way any kid figured out IM by middle school. You're not teaching them anything new.
Computer skills (of a real sort) aren't needed by most people. A large chunk need to be able to type an email and *maybe* a letter in Word. There's also where my mom works. She can't use computers for more than emailing me and typing a recipe. She doesn't have to use a computer for work at all. She drives all over the state visiting customers and picking up orders, calls the office and gives the orders to the secretary who enters them in the computer. I'm sure there are a lot of people like her who can do their jobs without ever touching a computer.
Not necessarily. If the students are tested by someone other than the teacher, the teacher has incentive to actually teach. Students who aren't the academic type might prefer hands-on stuff to reading about the Bayeaux Tapestry. By "academic type", I mean nose-in-a-book. You know those teachers who know everything about everything and you can't figure out where they got it all? They're "academics." They live for learning. They also seem to be history teachers (and I see good reason for this--they know the history of practically everything). Some people would prefer to grab an erector set and build something. I'm a bit of a hybrid because I love books AND breaking/building/breaking things (yes, in that order, it's like reverse-engineering physical things), but most people seem to go one way or the other (the hybrids become engineering students). There are special art schools with no real stigma attached (more likely to hear something like "she'll be the next Mary Cassatt"). There shouldn't be a stigma about tech/trade schools either. Some people love technology but would rather spend their time as a sysadmin than a code monkey. The sysadmins go to tech school. The code monkeys go to uni. I don't really know much about trade school things that aren't technical because I'm not interested in them, but I recall commercials with stuff about nursing, so I'll use that as an example. Nursing is a good job. You get good pay coming out of school. You can get multiple levels of nursing certification at a trade school. If after a few of them you decide to go to medical school, you have real world in-hospital experience, and that helps. If the hospital you work in is attached to a uni, you might get a discount at the uni because you're an employee.
My high school had that system too. A few of my cousins went to the trade school half-day to get EMT certified. I wanted to go get Cisco certified but my mom said that if I did that instead of staying in the high school with all honors classes, I'd have a tough time getting into college. I tried to argue since I wanted to go into a computer field anyway and this'd just be extra computer classes (my high school only offered visual basic and java for computer classes), but she wouldn't let me go. I didn't like that whole "graduation requirements only" thing that would result from going to the tech school. Then I couldn't take a foreign language and either chorus or programming classes every year. I had one year where I did a half-day, but I was in a community college for half-day senior year. The classes during the high school half of the day were all either AP or taught under the authority of the University of Pittsburgh for me to get credit that way. I'm a second semester college student and after next week's finals I'll have a first-semester junior's credit level, so hey that's a good thing. About parents forcing kids into college: yeah. My parents want me to be here. I would be fine with getting Cisco and Linux certifications and being a sysadmin, but I like programming and languages, and tech schools don't give you the room to move around and have 3 concentrations like I do. For kids like me, a technical uni (like Carnegie Mellon or MIT) is probably best. You get all the technological goodness and a nice geeky environment, but you can still pursue other non-technical areas of study. Unfortunately, I'm not at either of those schools because of location. My other major is International Affairs, and DC is sort of "the place to be" for that.
What use has a middle or high school student for ANY of that? That's stuff someone might need their 3rd or 4th year of college IF they go into a specific field that requires it. Further, it is useless to learn MS Office. You can learn using OOo just fine. It'll all translate. It's just typing, indenting, bolding, blah blah blah when it comes to Writer/Word. Excel? Most people have no idea you can put equations in there, anyway. They figure out with a calculator and type in the values.
What exactly is Silverlight? The name made me think of Quicksilver on a Mac, but looking at MS's site it looks like they're reinventing Flash. ewwwwwwww
Wouldn't that also cover having a giant pile of else-ifs?
Okay, Python. It's executable pseudocode, after all.
Exactly. Everything you could ever need to do on Linux, you can do from the shell if you know the commands. Windows? Most programs don't take command line arguments or run in command line mode. That's part of why cmd.exe is so useless. There are no apps that make use of it. There's also the lack of things like grep, sed, etc. in the cmd.exe that make it useless. Bash has all of that, and it has had it for ages. The PowerShell is just MS trying to make an actual useful shell like we have because the old one was so bad.
I've used it as an online name before because it's the name of an AFI song, my favourite from the first one of their CDs I got.
By the way, is that a misspelling of Nephilim, the giant half-angelic beings in the Bible?
Getting into the dictator's face and cursing him out is never a good strategy. Both manage to make the dictator feel less "ganged up on" and thus more likely to cooperate. Carter is considered the best negotiator we've had. I wouldn't call Richardson a pushover either. He successfully got hostages back from Iraq, Cuba, and North Korea. He's known by other nation's leaders as the guy who will be able to make a fair deal, instead of being like the French after WWI, the ones who forced heavy & unfair reparationz.
Actually, the GP was referring to "generic presidential candidate Q" in which case the person could be a "he," "she," or "ze," though I doubt a "ze" is likely to be elected president in this country any time soon. We're talking about grammar now, anyway.
There's also giving "example names" (think of John Doe / Jane Doe) which are gender neutral, like Joey. That could be a girl named Josephine or a boy named Joseph. Or use "Sam" (Samuel/Samantha) or something like that.
Bill Clinton and Richardson are both rather moderate, at least in necessary ways. It's been said that any anti-gun-control southern Democrat could take this country. That's Richardson. There's plenty of southerners who vote Republican simply because "them Dem-oh-crats want ter take mah guns away." He was endorsed by the NRA when he ran for Gov. the first time. He had a shooting range renovated for the National Police Shooting Competition.
Looking at this, I see something I like. He wants to promote learning foreign languages in school. I definitely agree with that. The easiest time to learn a new language is when you're really little. Kindergarten - 2nd grade is a good time to start. It's ridiculous that public schools tend to start in 8th grade or high school. I went to a Catholic school and started in Kindergarten. Even if it's not a language you intend to speak as an adult (might switch languages like I did, from Spanish to Japanese), just learning one when you're younger gives you a better grasp on how language works *in general* and how parts of speech interact (students in my Russian class didn't know what a direct object was, which annoyed the professor). Once you get one foreign language, learning any other language becomes much easier.
Richardson also has a marvelous foreign policy history. He's nearly on Carter's level when it comes to diplomacy. N. Korea specifically requested that he be the US negotiator because he's so good. He negotiated with Saddam and Cuba before. He's very good at getting back hostages and things like that. He has UN experience. Also, for the environmentally-concerned folks out there, he was Clinton's Secretary of Energy, and he has pushed a lot of energy-saving low-environmental-impact legislation through New Mexico's state government.
I intend to vote for him.
Or you could say "one" or "a person" or "he or she." Traditionally, it's always "he," but that is lately considered wrong. As you noted, women have started using "she." I tend to think of people online as "she" when I don't know his or her gender, but I rarely type it because I know that in the circles where I am visible (hint: this kind, the techie kind), there aren't nearly as many "she"s as "he"s.
Uh, plural for virus is viruses. It'd have to be virius to pluralize to virii. But yeah doesn't "boxen" go back to the old hackers? Boxen and unices (instead of unixes). Boxen is in the Jargon File / Hacker Dictionary: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/B/boxen.html
South African people are still a LOT darker than Native Americans, including the ones Texas/Mexico.
The north's not the only "far the from the equator" place. How about southern parts of Africa? Are the people there really pale because of Vitamin D? No? Oh, that can't be it then.
Elect someone who's in favor of election of reform ;)
I've used one. It is a real computer,though the keyboard's not clicky (it's actually very squishy and very rubber, not even hard keycaps, but it's also probably waterproof which is good) and is extremely tiny (perfect for child fingers). I was a bit confused by the UI, but then I grew up on Windows and then switched go GNOME. It's an entirely different way of thinking about UI and how you interact with it. There are 3 touchpads. One controls the mouse, though I forget what the other two do. I do agree that they need food and water, but I think this is aimed more at areas where there are a lot of not-too-poor-for-school (you can be too poor for free school if the opportunity cost of school is a bunch of money you need to make at a job to feed your family) but still not rich enough to have a computer at home families. There are a lot of families here in the US which don't have computers. They have to use the ones at libraries. That can be a problem with research papers depending on the library. The one at home closes at 6 on Fridays and stays closed on weekends (may have added 10-2 on Saturdays). My school has a 24hr library, which gets used quite a bit. If your area doesn't have a 24hr library though, you have a very limited amount of time during which you can do research considering that you're in school more than half of the hours during which the library is open. For people who have a trailer-park-quality life, the OLPC would be perfect.
Apathetic wankers like you are the reason this country's going to Hell in a handbasket. Votes matter. If you think there is anything wrong with this country but you did not vote you CANNOT complain. You had the chance to do something about it, but you didn't. Voting is not just for old people. Everyone capable of making an informed decision should vote. Check out a voter guide, decide with which candidate you agree the most, and take 10 minutes out of your lunch hour to vote in primaries and general elections. It's really not that difficult. People who can vote but don't suck. Hell, my roommate knew the election in her state was going to be close, but by election day her absentee ballot hadn't shown up. She caught a train home so she could vote.
Almost all HPs have Linux drivers, and their drivers, along with HPLIP are included in Ubuntu by default. HPLIP used to be rather uh...bleh....but the one in 7.04 is very nice. It even shows ink levels for the printer, which I've never seen on an HP on Windows (only on Lexmarks). I once wondered aloud about why HPs tend to work so well, and was told it's because of Linux printservers. I would put anything in the "perfectly" or "mostly" under the category of "works" since the extra stuff (like the print level reporting) isn't exactly a necessity, just a "nice to have." There's 11 non-working as compared to...about 200 working ones?