I wish people didn't eat at McDonald's, or drink Starbucks coffee, but I prefer to live in a world where choices that seem suboptimal to me are possible for other people to make.
Mainly because I know the choice police would eventually get around to taking away something I like.
The big difference is that Apple is a private entity and is controlling what can and can't be sold via a store that they own. They do not control what you can buy in other stores, as would a government.
If you dislike what is available in Apple's store or you have some philosophical disagreement with the way they do things, you are free to buy some other device.
Becoming locked into a walled garden is generally a one-way trip, so the walled garden tends to expand to the detriment of the open market.
No, I have an Apple phone and an Apple laptop, my servers run BSD. I have a DVR that runs Linux. The day a non-Apple phone or laptop, or non BSD server OS, or non-Linux running DVR, becomes available that suits my needs better than what I have, I'll use them instead.
Tell me specifically how the degree of control and squelching of competition specific to Apple's walled garden affects things outside the walled garden. Tell me about something with enough scale to justify you being able to deny my freedom to choose Apple.
Stallman does, and always has, define freedom as that which most benefits him. He is or was a programmer and he demands the freedom to program and modify the software and devices he uses. Which is great for him.
But how can the freedom to choose not include the freedom for people to choose an Apple style 'walled garden'? I am absolutely certain that Stallman doesn't know what I want better than I do.
Further, if you don't buy any Apple products, how can you be effected by Apple? Apart from your not being able to buy a tablet that apes an ipad in countries that don't allow products to ape one another. Also other than getting angry enough to click reply on every Apple/Jobs story.
I had maybe a dozen iPods, mostly for photo storage. Not sure how many Apple laptops. 3 iPhones.
None of them ever tried to control me.
I'd be sitting on the couch surfing the web with my MBP and would think "I want to go outside". I'd then do that, seemingly with no interference from the MBP. Similarly I'd be driving down the street with my iPhone in my pocket and never once felt like the phone was trying to get be to drive to the Apple store.
But I will admit that the MBP I am typing this on auto-capilatized iPhone. Maybe that is what you mean...
When you hear people talk about John Galt, or 'going Galt' or quitting thier jobs over too much tax being taken, you can be absolutely 100% sure in every single case that the person is lying and would never quit.
People like O'Reilly would fight you to gain a dollar even if the government was going to take 99 cents of it. An amount more is what matters to them, above the amount itself.
Apple wishes its brand identity were so strong that some remarkable incident could occur involving someone else's product, but people discussing the incident would substitute an Apple product instead.
Maybe not, as a practical matter, but the tools are there. It is quite wrong to say the US allows its citizens access to only press release style propaganda when CSPAN transmits the unedited goings on on the Senate floor, for instance. That people don't care to tune in is another matter.
Who makes what decision is a bit of a chicken and egg sort of question: is the debate as it is because the powers that be made it that way, or did the people elect that type of debater? Probably the answer lies somewhere in the middle and is a whole lot more complex that can be distilled into a single finger point. But it is self prepetuating regardless.
Our population is more educated today than ever before, though I can't comment on their ability to rationally evaluate much. We also have the ability to do what the Greeks considered essential to Democracy, which is allow every citizen to witness the debate over every subject.
Internet, TV, newspapers, these things should be improving democracy and making it work on a larger scale than ever. That we use them mostly for porno and formulaic television shows is unfortunate. You could maybe make watching a debate prerequisite for voting, but we have a hard time even making people identify themselves at the polls, much less prove their fitness for being there.
Less 'learn science' than 'learn the scientific method' and its application to everyday life. Or just critical thinking in general.
Too many people stop learning at the end of high school/university. If they just memorize some state of the art science related facts at that time our situation will not likely improve as new facts are discovered.
More often than not I have found the justification for connecting the control and office networks to be the "DA" part of SCADA. Management wants control side data in reports and it is much more cost effective and timely to automate that than to have someone physically enter it on another network.
Most of the SCADA outfits sell software to do exactly that, the "data historian" type applications. Invensys sells modules to deliver data directly from control networks to both their office side products (Avantis, etc) and to SAP.
I've been in hundreds of plants all over the world, in a wide variety of industries, and I would estimate maybe 25% have had an air gap. Maybe half had a bridge PC or a router.
This includes a lot of old facilities, that were controlled with pre-ethernet PLCs. In most of those place the PLC network had some separate segments (running Modbus or Devicenet of something), but there was usually an ethernet PLC somewhere plugged into the same network as everything else.
I've noticed that the trend in OS design of late is to try to kill the idea of multi-tasking
What OSs have killed multi tasking?
Even cell phones now have it. Windows 8 is going to have it. OSX Lion has it. BSD does. I don't run any Linux distros at the moment, have some of them killed it?
I think that the OP is painting with a broad brush, but what the rest of the web can learn from Craigslist is that you should let the content of your site drive its design, rather than shoehorning the content into whatever gizmos seem coolest.
Certainly there is content that needs some complex underlying technology to be presented at its best. Your example might be great ones, I don't use them, but I'd say something like Gapminder.org fits as well. But for every one of those there are probably 50 sites that would benefit from being simplified. Slashdot would. I just ordered some dress shirts and can say that Biased Cut, at best, makes dumb use of whizzy gadgets. I encounter far more sites where the gadgets just get in the way, or slow me down, than I do ones that are too simple.
The majority of the anti-patent crowd here are developers
I doubt that very seriously.
Any story mentioning a patent leans strongly anti on a post count basis. I simply don't believe the readership at any given time contains that many developers. Of anything, not just software.
Add to that the regular confusion of what IP qualifies for what type of protection, the widespread practice of ranting about patent claims after reading only the title or abstract. Etc etc.
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I wish people didn't eat at McDonald's, or drink Starbucks coffee, but I prefer to live in a world where choices that seem suboptimal to me are possible for other people to make.
Mainly because I know the choice police would eventually get around to taking away something I like.
The big difference is that Apple is a private entity and is controlling what can and can't be sold via a store that they own. They do not control what you can buy in other stores, as would a government.
If you dislike what is available in Apple's store or you have some philosophical disagreement with the way they do things, you are free to buy some other device.
Becoming locked into a walled garden is generally a one-way trip, so the walled garden tends to expand to the detriment of the open market.
No, I have an Apple phone and an Apple laptop, my servers run BSD. I have a DVR that runs Linux. The day a non-Apple phone or laptop, or non BSD server OS, or non-Linux running DVR, becomes available that suits my needs better than what I have, I'll use them instead.
Tell me specifically how the degree of control and squelching of competition specific to Apple's walled garden affects things outside the walled garden. Tell me about something with enough scale to justify you being able to deny my freedom to choose Apple.
Stallman does, and always has, define freedom as that which most benefits him. He is or was a programmer and he demands the freedom to program and modify the software and devices he uses. Which is great for him.
But how can the freedom to choose not include the freedom for people to choose an Apple style 'walled garden'? I am absolutely certain that Stallman doesn't know what I want better than I do.
Further, if you don't buy any Apple products, how can you be effected by Apple? Apart from your not being able to buy a tablet that apes an ipad in countries that don't allow products to ape one another. Also other than getting angry enough to click reply on every Apple/Jobs story.
Explain to me in detail how I've been controlled by Steve Jobs. What is it he (or 'his' devices) has had me do?
I had maybe a dozen iPods, mostly for photo storage. Not sure how many Apple laptops. 3 iPhones.
None of them ever tried to control me.
I'd be sitting on the couch surfing the web with my MBP and would think "I want to go outside". I'd then do that, seemingly with no interference from the MBP. Similarly I'd be driving down the street with my iPhone in my pocket and never once felt like the phone was trying to get be to drive to the Apple store.
But I will admit that the MBP I am typing this on auto-capilatized iPhone. Maybe that is what you mean...
When you hear people talk about John Galt, or 'going Galt' or quitting thier jobs over too much tax being taken, you can be absolutely 100% sure in every single case that the person is lying and would never quit.
People like O'Reilly would fight you to gain a dollar even if the government was going to take 99 cents of it. An amount more is what matters to them, above the amount itself.
You seem to be having a difficult time with that.
At the moment they are winning by having less.
Their stores I've been to have been far less crammed full of stuff than a Fry's or Best Buy. They certainly don't have an expansive product range.
The only thing their stores seem to have more of are employees, and wildly priced peripherals.
Apple wishes its brand identity were so strong that some remarkable incident could occur involving someone else's product, but people discussing the incident would substitute an Apple product instead.
Maybe not, as a practical matter, but the tools are there. It is quite wrong to say the US allows its citizens access to only press release style propaganda when CSPAN transmits the unedited goings on on the Senate floor, for instance. That people don't care to tune in is another matter.
Who makes what decision is a bit of a chicken and egg sort of question: is the debate as it is because the powers that be made it that way, or did the people elect that type of debater? Probably the answer lies somewhere in the middle and is a whole lot more complex that can be distilled into a single finger point. But it is self prepetuating regardless.
Our population is more educated today than ever before, though I can't comment on their ability to rationally evaluate much. We also have the ability to do what the Greeks considered essential to Democracy, which is allow every citizen to witness the debate over every subject.
Internet, TV, newspapers, these things should be improving democracy and making it work on a larger scale than ever. That we use them mostly for porno and formulaic television shows is unfortunate. You could maybe make watching a debate prerequisite for voting, but we have a hard time even making people identify themselves at the polls, much less prove their fitness for being there.
Less 'learn science' than 'learn the scientific method' and its application to everyday life. Or just critical thinking in general.
Too many people stop learning at the end of high school/university. If they just memorize some state of the art science related facts at that time our situation will not likely improve as new facts are discovered.
More often than not I have found the justification for connecting the control and office networks to be the "DA" part of SCADA. Management wants control side data in reports and it is much more cost effective and timely to automate that than to have someone physically enter it on another network.
Most of the SCADA outfits sell software to do exactly that, the "data historian" type applications. Invensys sells modules to deliver data directly from control networks to both their office side products (Avantis, etc) and to SAP.
I've been in hundreds of plants all over the world, in a wide variety of industries, and I would estimate maybe 25% have had an air gap. Maybe half had a bridge PC or a router.
This includes a lot of old facilities, that were controlled with pre-ethernet PLCs. In most of those place the PLC network had some separate segments (running Modbus or Devicenet of something), but there was usually an ethernet PLC somewhere plugged into the same network as everything else.
The people who run Slashdot obviously noticed, because they sure as hell aren't saying no to these ads MS is putting in the queue.
I've noticed that the trend in OS design of late is to try to kill the idea of multi-tasking
What OSs have killed multi tasking?
Even cell phones now have it. Windows 8 is going to have it. OSX Lion has it. BSD does. I don't run any Linux distros at the moment, have some of them killed it?
I think that the OP is painting with a broad brush, but what the rest of the web can learn from Craigslist is that you should let the content of your site drive its design, rather than shoehorning the content into whatever gizmos seem coolest.
Certainly there is content that needs some complex underlying technology to be presented at its best. Your example might be great ones, I don't use them, but I'd say something like Gapminder.org fits as well. But for every one of those there are probably 50 sites that would benefit from being simplified. Slashdot would. I just ordered some dress shirts and can say that Biased Cut, at best, makes dumb use of whizzy gadgets. I encounter far more sites where the gadgets just get in the way, or slow me down, than I do ones that are too simple.
You remind me of the "Keep the government out of my Medicare" folks
Then you are dumber than I thought, because all I did was ask a question.
So wait...is income redistribution bad or good?
If security and safety can be made critical parts of the profit making equation, greed is wonderfully compatible with security and safety.
The airline industry, for instance.
Yahoo has always been relentless in destroying everything they buy.
I want privately operated power plants
Bolded for your pleasure.
The majority of the anti-patent crowd here are developers
I doubt that very seriously.
Any story mentioning a patent leans strongly anti on a post count basis. I simply don't believe the readership at any given time contains that many developers. Of anything, not just software.
Add to that the regular confusion of what IP qualifies for what type of protection, the widespread practice of ranting about patent claims after reading only the title or abstract. Etc etc.
you will languish in the working class for the rest of your life
How is that different from Communism?