Huh, look at redhat. Don't say they just provide service contracts because that is just full of BS. The actually sell contracts on what they write (the old cygnus way, though from what I hear that business is going down but not because of open source vs closed source but from the fact new processors ISAs are being made as fast as they were once). For the processors, look at what is happening to the market, it is going to be a battle between only three processors, ARM, x86/x86_64, and PPC. This market is what drives most of cygnus'^wRedhat's business and it is just going down.
Now Novell is letting go off a lot of people but if you read it correctly it is only the closed source guys which are being let go and not the Suse guys.
I hate classes which force you to do a class project as: 1) there usually not enough time to finish it correctly 2) forcing people's different interest into one is not a good idea (well remember they are paying you to teach them and not being paid to do a project)
Bad things about opening a new project, OSS is not a junk yard to be pushed out and not worried about. It has to be maintained.
What should be done instead, let them find an already open/free source project which they can join and let them work on that.
If someone cannot find a project let them write a paper about different open/free source projects and how things fit together. Like how Linux and glibc, GNU binutils, GCC, and GDB all fit together and how the communications are done between projects. For an example how a bug report from the Linux kernel forks to the GCC folks are handled.
Also getting people to work on stuff which is already done is useless really as that is not the sprit of the O/FSS.
Use a new bugzilla and the clone feature. GCC has no troubles handling this problem. For bugs which are only need to be fixed on a release branch, the summary is marked with "[x.x only]" and the target milestone is set.
But you don't have a right as two different people can "own" a name for two different industry so what happens for the internet and ICCAN, well it is a mess.
This is why there are at least three deltas in the world. One for airlines, one for faucets, and one for electronics
Now which one gets delta.com, well the person who registered the name first, in this case Delta airlines.
So maybe the person who register the domain name has the same registered name as the person asking does.
Is that really a positive side? Everyone I know in the compiler world (well GCC world) complains very much about the ia64 architecture. So why do people think this is a positive side, when really it is a negative side of the world.
But that is not the normal laws of supply and demand. As the demand goes up the price goes up so what you are saying the normal economic rules don't apply. This is only true when there is a monopoly. So Petrol supply is a monopoly and abuses its monopoly power. Why have the US not gone after them, even the EU for that matter?
Let see, it is about $5/gallon in the UK and the US is complaining about $3/gallon wtf. This is just under estimate too because I am converting from £ to $ and liters to gallons.
This laptop is not even a SPARC so why even your comment? And yes I would rather have a SPARC than a x86_64 or a x86 since they are just generic laptops.
This is one of the reasons why I like Apple's PPC laptops. I actually like RISC ISAs than CISC ISAs.
Considering Access is not in M$ Office for the Mac who cares about it. In fact most of Outlook is not either. M$ makes another email program for the Mac.
Also there is already Filemaker which is one of the reasons why M$ has always said they are not going to make Access for the Mac.
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Apple uses ARM in the iPod already and hired a person to work on GCC for ARM. (this was all based on public knowledge).
how the GCC project handle this?
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Lets say that the GCC project actually situationals like this greatly. We just tell the person who wants feature xxx from branch yyy, port it to the mainline and split it up and stop your complaining that it is not in a released compiler yet.
Isn't first to file already done, there is no difference from the current laws here really, move along.
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First SSA is internal to the compiler, why did it even get mentioned on slashdot. Second SSA tree is internal to GCC.
Oh, slashdot submitters should not confuse people with internal compiler stuff.
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Why we you using it in the first place? Seems like your mistake really. Anyways the reason why it is slower is because well there is no use for it any more. It use was mainly to get around some deficiencies in the optimizers.
I was just thinking the same as IBM does not make its money from selling computers or even selling compilers but the support contracts that come with them.
Since Sun fucked up the SYS V ABI for PPC, I would assume they should release a fucking version of opensolaris since they have the code. And they fucked up the ABI so bad that almost all people who know about PPC, want to change it now. So now where is solaris for PPC.
All I have to say is luckly Sun had nothing to do with the SYS V (elf) PPC64 ABI.
Even though he is not that famous but he is still a physicist that could be studied.
He was one of the fore runners in computational physics too.
Huh, look at redhat. Don't say they just provide service contracts because that is just full of BS. The actually sell contracts on what they write (the old cygnus way, though from what I hear that business is going down but not because of open source vs closed source but from the fact new processors ISAs are being made as fast as they were once). For the processors, look at what is happening to the market, it is going to be a battle between only three processors, ARM, x86/x86_64, and PPC. This market is what drives most of cygnus'^wRedhat's business and it is just going down.
Now Novell is letting go off a lot of people but if you read it correctly it is only the closed source guys which are being let go and not the Suse guys.
With 3, it better include the FOSS java implemention and not just talking about the Sun java.
I hate classes which force you to do a class project as:
1) there usually not enough time to finish it correctly
2) forcing people's different interest into one is not a good idea (well remember they are paying you to teach them and not being paid to do a project)
Bad things about opening a new project, OSS is not a junk yard to be pushed out and not worried about. It has to be maintained.
What should be done instead, let them find an already open/free source project which they can join and let them work on that.
If someone cannot find a project let them write a paper about different open/free source projects and how things fit together. Like how Linux and glibc, GNU binutils, GCC, and GDB all fit together and how the communications are done between projects.
For an example how a bug report from the Linux kernel forks to the GCC folks are handled.
Also getting people to work on stuff which is already done is useless really as that is not the sprit of the O/FSS.
It was added in 2.20 which was just released on a couple of weeks ago.
Use a new bugzilla and the clone feature.
GCC has no troubles handling this problem.
For bugs which are only need to be fixed on a release branch, the summary is marked with "[x.x only]" and the target milestone is set.
This is not rocket science.
But you don't have a right as two different people can "own" a name for two different industry so what happens for the internet and ICCAN, well it is a mess.
This is why there are at least three deltas in the world. One for airlines, one for faucets, and one for electronics
Now which one gets delta.com, well the person who registered the name first, in this case Delta airlines.
So maybe the person who register the domain name has the same registered name as the person asking does.
Is that really a positive side? Everyone I know in the compiler world (well GCC world) complains very much about the ia64 architecture. So why do people think this is a positive side, when really it is a negative side of the world.
But that is not the normal laws of supply and demand. As the demand goes up the price goes up so what you are saying the normal economic rules don't apply. This is only true when there is a monopoly. So Petrol supply is a monopoly and abuses its monopoly power. Why have the US not gone after them, even the EU for that matter?
Let see, it is about $5/gallon in the UK and the US is complaining about $3/gallon wtf. This is just under estimate too because I am converting from £ to $ and liters to gallons.
This laptop is not even a SPARC so why even your comment?
And yes I would rather have a SPARC than a x86_64 or a x86 since they are just generic laptops.
This is one of the reasons why I like Apple's PPC laptops. I actually like RISC ISAs than CISC ISAs.
Considering Access is not in M$ Office for the Mac who cares about it. In fact most of Outlook is not either. M$ makes another email program for the Mac.
Also there is already Filemaker which is one of the reasons why M$ has always said they are not going to make Access for the Mac.
Or Windows for that matter.
Apple uses ARM in the iPod already and hired a person to work on GCC for ARM. (this was all based on public knowledge).
Lets say that the GCC project actually situationals like this greatly. We just tell the person who wants feature xxx from branch yyy, port it to the mainline and split it up and stop your complaining that it is not in a released compiler yet.
I remember going from 24bit to a 32bit OS (System 6.x to System 7.x).
There were some problems with some software but then again Apple always warned about thos upper 8bits.
Microsoft Basic for System x.x was actually orginally an Apple application sold to Microsoft since M$ was the BASIC seller in the world.
Isn't that Sun's codeword for their new version of Java?
so why isn't Tiger Direct suing them too. Oh I know why, they know they would lose easier.
Isn't first to file already done, there is no difference from the current laws here really, move along.
First SSA is internal to the compiler, why did it even get mentioned on slashdot. Second SSA tree is internal to GCC.
Oh, slashdot submitters should not confuse people with internal compiler stuff.
Why we you using it in the first place?
Seems like your mistake really. Anyways the reason why it is slower is because well there is no use for it any more. It use was mainly to get around some deficiencies in the optimizers.
Actually someone is working on merging it. So you data is not update. See here.
That actually not quiet true, Apple^wNeXT has at least on person working on GCC since 1.x days.
I was just thinking the same as IBM does not make its money from selling computers or even selling compilers but the support contracts that come with them.
Since Sun fucked up the SYS V ABI for PPC, I would assume they should release a fucking version of opensolaris since they have the code. And they fucked up the ABI so bad that almost all people who know about PPC, want to change it now.
So now where is solaris for PPC.
All I have to say is luckly Sun had nothing to do with the SYS V (elf) PPC64 ABI.