Patents worked for me. They worked for Dr. Damadian, Gordon Gould, Bob Kearns (Flash of Genius movie coming on 10-3-08), Wilson Greatbatch, and the list goes on and on. Patents will never work for the types of people on Slashdot for two reasons.
1) You have to be able to invent and it is clear that you cannot becuse you are too busy wallowing in self pitty.
2) You have to have the gumption to try, and it is clear that most people here do not have that gumption:)
I have been living the good life with my inventions since the early 1990's.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
Affiliations:
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.patentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 9 pm EST.
Without patents large vested interests would simply take all the inventions startup companies produce for their and only their profit.
Slashdot is not the right place to seek advice about these issues because for the most part it is populated by entitlement minded dullards who never have original ideas. I find Slashdot forums rate next to use groups in quality of content.
Most certainly university patent policies are a good place to look for guidance in this matter. There is a forum for university technology transfer named Techno-L which is located at Techno-L.org.
www.InventorEd.org has a forum where you can get advice on this issue named Inventors-L@InvEd.org. I suggest that you could also seek advice there.
The Professional Inventors Alliance www.PIAUSA.org has a forum named PIADiscuss-L@PIAUSA.org where you could talk with other inventors who have launched companies.
You might also find useful information about this issue on the Licensing Executives Society www.LES.org web site.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
Affiliations:
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.patentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 9 pm EST.
Has it occurred to anyone that Apple is getting sued because they have a big appetite for other's patent property and a big ego that gets in the way of acquiring the rights to the patent properties they need to succeed in the market?
Have you considered that Apple gets sued after they have refused a legitimate offer for a license?
Or have you considered that Apple's membership in the Coalition for Patent fairness and PIRACY, aka. the Piracy Coalition is a good indication that birds of a feather do flock together?
Some companies start as inventors, and some start as parasites on those who have invented. Eventually they end up alike, one group never being inventive and the second losing the ability to invent as they age. Both will try to substitute quanity in patent filing for the quality of inventions they are incapable of producing. It does not work.
All Piracy Coalition members fit one of these profiles. Tech companies who are past their prime, insurance and banking collectively have no shame!
What they very good at producing is innovating media hype which obfuscates the reality of their existence. Their multi-million dollar "troll" campaign is a perfect example of this. They paint their victims as "trolls" while the courts are finding their conduct so egregious that they are handing down staggering judgments which are generally being upheld by higher courts. This is what happens to those who are caught lying, cheating, and stealing and no amount of public relations painting their victims as evil "trolls" can change the facts of these cases.
Personally I think that it is a shame that Piracy Coalition members have failed to learn the lesson that inventors and the courts are teaching. It is all about conducting one's business in an ethical manner!
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
Affiliations:
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.patentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 9 pm EST.
It is the outrageous conduct of patent pirates which transforms fun loving inventors into mythical ugly patent trolls. First they steal the inventor's property and then they abuse the legal system to rape the inventor. Meanwhile they use money they make from such theft to conduct massive PR campaigns in an effort to paint any inventor who has the gall to defend the patent PROPERTY rights as bad players.
====
The Professional Inventors Alliance USA was created more than a decade ago to protect American invention and encourage innovation. American inventors saw a need to track congressional legislation and federal policy that impacts independent inventors, small and medium-sized businesses and colleges and universities. The Alliance is the premiere organization in the nation, providing independent inventors a united voice in order to improve public policy.
The Alliance provides legislative counsel, congressional updates and strategy development to its members through a number of vehicles. Additionally, through its speaker's bureau, Alliance members have an opportunity to provide expert opinion to many of the nation's top-tier business, technology and mainstream media organizations. Over the years its members have testified before Congress, offered counsel to key Senate and House committee members, and successfully pushed legislation to protect America's independent inventors.
Since its inception, the Alliance has grown into one of the most vocal advocates for America's patent system.
Examples of areas of our expertise include David Vs. Goliath patent litigation, patent reform, and we have a unique view of the companies comprising the "Coalition for Patent Piracy".
Ronald J. Riley,
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Direct (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 9 pm EST.
"Yawn... Nothing here, move along please.(Score:5, Informative)
by XorNand (517466) * on Friday December 30, @11:39AM (#14365209)
(http://www.brightideavoip.com/)"
1) Patents are a constitutionally protected property right.
2) Inventors are heavy users of VOIP
3) VOIP exists today because inventors accepted the bargain to disclose their inventions in exchange of a limited property right.
4) Until the Eolas decision Microsoft thought they were invincible. Most young wildly successful companies like Google repeat the same mistake Microsoft made. It is only a matter of time before Google is held accountable for their scorched earth approach to the issue of taking other's property.
5) It has been reported that Rates Technology has hundreds of licensees. This means that their patents have stood the test of challenges and that Rates Technology has a huge war chest.
6) this sort of statement does not bode well for XorNand of http://www.brightideavoip.com/ who has apparently acknowledged that they are using patented technology and that they are dismissive of such. If they come under fire this public statement may well lead to treble damages.
XorNand, if it is ok for you or others to take another person's inventions for your own profit then why shouldn't it be ok for people to take your property? How about that? It amazes me how people can rationalize theft. The bigger the company the more likely they are to operate in this way.
What choice do inventors have when people steal from them in broad daylight except to seek legal redress? Do you think that any inventor wants to be embroiled in litigation for decades? Do you think that blatant theft discourages most inventors?
Has it occurred to you that when inventors do not receive fair compensation that society loses jobs and tax base because many if not most inventors leave the business after they have been bankrupted by patent pirates? What is at stake here is America's ability to compete in a global marketplace. We must be the leading innovators if we are to survive for we cannot compete based on wages.
Perhaps now that you understand that your taking of others inventions for YOUR personal profit is theft you will contact Rates Technology and seek a license. Most inventors are reasonable when they are dealt with reasonably. Conversely you can continue to rationalize your conduct on public forums leaving a nice paper trail, and when it comes time to pay the piper you can whine about your fate.
Ronald J Riley, President
Professional Inventors Alliance
www.PIAUSA.org
RJR"at"PIAUSA.org
Change "at" to @"
RJR Direct # (202) 318-1595
http://www.piausa.org/index.php/general_info/the_p ia_viewpoint/talking_points_for_inventors
*****ATTENTION INVENTORS*****
The Professional Inventors Alliance (www.piausa.org) wants you to know about legislation making its way through Congress that will severely limit intellectual property rights to independent inventors. You need to get involved.
HR 2795 Threatens U.S. Intellectual Property Rights
The bill, if passed as currently written, would be an enormous blow to colleges and universities, independent inventors and small business owners, especially those who are attempting to obtain venture capital for the commercialization of their inventions. If enacted, HR 2795 would be the most comprehensive change to the patent system in our nation's history. At the same time, it would weaken the best patent system in the world. It would open U.S. innovations to worldwide piracy through provisions such as first to file, worldwide publication of applications, third party input both pre- and post-grant, limitations on damages for infringement and prior user rights.
Most damaging provisions in HR 2795:
First to File - This provision will not guarantee that the actual inventor will be granted the patent. It creates conditions for very poor prior art, which is the existing knowledge of a similar innovation known to the general public. It burdens examiners with questionable applications by non-inventors. It creates a new malpractice liability for patent practitioners who may not beat another party to the patent office, thereby increasing the potential for litigation.
18-Month World Publication - The measure exposes to the general public worldwide what is currently confidential, and therefore very valuable to the actual inventor. It provides an open avenue for unscrupulous entities to pirate, then market a valuable new innovation before the true inventor(s) can commercialize their innovation.
Prior User Rights - The measure would weaken patent protection by providing a defense for unscrupulous entities to claim prior use and allows full use without royalty payments to the actual inventor.
Third Party Reexamination (Post Grant Review) - The provision would devalue a patent after it has been granted by allowing any party - foreign or domestic - to block its exclusive use by tying it up in this review period, which could be infinite. The patent loses all value if it is continually challenged by multiple parties who will now be given equal treatment in the process regardless of their merits. Any challenge should be limited to prior art not of record. In other words, new research - prior art - must be presented.
Assignee Filing - For the first time in U.S. history - under this bill - a patent can be awarded directly to companies rather than the actual inventor. This is not what the Founding Fathers envisioned when they wrote the Constitution that grants exclusive protection of rights to inventors of their discoveries. Under the current law, it is difficult for an employer to file a patent application when the inventor refuses to sign a declaration or is otherwise unavailable. The proposal enables this to be done without the inventor's assistance. Generally, employees of businesses now sign contracts, which normally include any work done by the employee, that transfer ownership of the patent to the business. This provision further empowers corporations over their inventor-employees.
Limiting Continuing Applications - Continuing Applications, in their current form, have been part of the U.S. Patent System for a long time. Among other things, this proposed provision precludes claiming an invention in a continuing application not claimed in the parent application. Pioneering patents, such as the discovery of and elimination of viruses, would be vastly limited under this proposal. Also, the bill proposes to limit this application path under the ruse of easing the patent application backlog for examiners. Congress
The reason for the patent system is to get people to fully disclose their invention. If inventors were not rewarded with the patent system they would keep as much of their invention secret as possible. Then others would not be able to build on their work.
In your case the problem was that you did not check the published patents (prior art) to see if others had rights to what you wanted to do. You need to take responsibility for that failure.
See http://www.piausa.org./ This is not about real reform, it is about large predatory companies wanting to change the law to facilitate theft of others intellectual property.
I am the president of PIAUSA and we are the same inventors who pulled the fangs from the last so called patent reform. Join our efforts to protect the patent syatem from the Microsofts of the world.
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1) You have to be able to invent and it is clear that you cannot becuse you are too busy wallowing in self pitty.
2) You have to have the gumption to try, and it is clear that most people here do not have that gumption :)
I have been living the good life with my inventions since the early 1990's.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
Affiliations:
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.patentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 9 pm EST.
Slashdot is not the right place to seek advice about these issues because for the most part it is populated by entitlement minded dullards who never have original ideas. I find Slashdot forums rate next to use groups in quality of content.
Most certainly university patent policies are a good place to look for guidance in this matter. There is a forum for university technology transfer named Techno-L which is located at Techno-L.org.
www.InventorEd.org has a forum where you can get advice on this issue named Inventors-L@InvEd.org. I suggest that you could also seek advice there.
The Professional Inventors Alliance www.PIAUSA.org has a forum named PIADiscuss-L@PIAUSA.org where you could talk with other inventors who have launched companies.
You might also find useful information about this issue on the Licensing Executives Society www.LES.org web site.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
Affiliations:
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.patentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 9 pm EST.
Have you considered that Apple gets sued after they have refused a legitimate offer for a license?
Or have you considered that Apple's membership in the Coalition for Patent fairness and PIRACY, aka. the Piracy Coalition is a good indication that birds of a feather do flock together?
Some companies start as inventors, and some start as parasites on those who have invented. Eventually they end up alike, one group never being inventive and the second losing the ability to invent as they age. Both will try to substitute quanity in patent filing for the quality of inventions they are incapable of producing. It does not work.
All Piracy Coalition members fit one of these profiles. Tech companies who are past their prime, insurance and banking collectively have no shame!
What they very good at producing is innovating media hype which obfuscates the reality of their existence. Their multi-million dollar "troll" campaign is a perfect example of this. They paint their victims as "trolls" while the courts are finding their conduct so egregious that they are handing down staggering judgments which are generally being upheld by higher courts. This is what happens to those who are caught lying, cheating, and stealing and no amount of public relations painting their victims as evil "trolls" can change the facts of these cases.
Personally I think that it is a shame that Piracy Coalition members have failed to learn the lesson that inventors and the courts are teaching. It is all about conducting one's business in an ethical manner!
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
Affiliations:
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.patentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 9 pm EST.
====
The Professional Inventors Alliance USA was created more than a decade ago to protect American invention and encourage innovation. American inventors saw a need to track congressional legislation and federal policy that impacts independent inventors, small and medium-sized businesses and colleges and universities. The Alliance is the premiere organization in the nation, providing independent inventors a united voice in order to improve public policy.
The Alliance provides legislative counsel, congressional updates and strategy development to its members through a number of vehicles. Additionally, through its speaker's bureau, Alliance members have an opportunity to provide expert opinion to many of the nation's top-tier business, technology and mainstream media organizations. Over the years its members have testified before Congress, offered counsel to key Senate and House committee members, and successfully pushed legislation to protect America's independent inventors.
Since its inception, the Alliance has grown into one of the most vocal advocates for America's patent system.
Examples of areas of our expertise include David Vs. Goliath patent litigation, patent reform, and we have a unique view of the companies comprising the "Coalition for Patent Piracy".
Ronald J. Riley,
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Direct (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 9 pm EST.
Ronald J Riley, Exec. Dir.
InventorEd, Inc.
www.InventorEd.org
RJR"at"InvEd.org
Change "at" to @
1) Patents are a constitutionally protected property right.
2) Inventors are heavy users of VOIP
3) VOIP exists today because inventors accepted the bargain to disclose their inventions in exchange of a limited property right.
4) Until the Eolas decision Microsoft thought they were invincible. Most young wildly successful companies like Google repeat the same mistake Microsoft made. It is only a matter of time before Google is held accountable for their scorched earth approach to the issue of taking other's property.
5) It has been reported that Rates Technology has hundreds of licensees. This means that their patents have stood the test of challenges and that Rates Technology has a huge war chest.
6) this sort of statement does not bode well for XorNand of http://www.brightideavoip.com/ who has apparently acknowledged that they are using patented technology and that they are dismissive of such. If they come under fire this public statement may well lead to treble damages.
XorNand, if it is ok for you or others to take another person's inventions for your own profit then why shouldn't it be ok for people to take your property? How about that? It amazes me how people can rationalize theft. The bigger the company the more likely they are to operate in this way.
What choice do inventors have when people steal from them in broad daylight except to seek legal redress? Do you think that any inventor wants to be embroiled in litigation for decades? Do you think that blatant theft discourages most inventors?
Has it occurred to you that when inventors do not receive fair compensation that society loses jobs and tax base because many if not most inventors leave the business after they have been bankrupted by patent pirates? What is at stake here is America's ability to compete in a global marketplace. We must be the leading innovators if we are to survive for we cannot compete based on wages.
Perhaps now that you understand that your taking of others inventions for YOUR personal profit is theft you will contact Rates Technology and seek a license. Most inventors are reasonable when they are dealt with reasonably. Conversely you can continue to rationalize your conduct on public forums leaving a nice paper trail, and when it comes time to pay the piper you can whine about your fate.
Ronald J Riley, President
Professional Inventors Alliance
www.PIAUSA.org
RJR"at"PIAUSA.org
Change "at" to @"
RJR Direct # (202) 318-1595
http://www.piausa.org/index.php/general_info/the_p ia_viewpoint/talking_points_for_inventors *****ATTENTION INVENTORS***** The Professional Inventors Alliance (www.piausa.org) wants you to know about legislation making its way through Congress that will severely limit intellectual property rights to independent inventors. You need to get involved. HR 2795 Threatens U.S. Intellectual Property Rights The bill, if passed as currently written, would be an enormous blow to colleges and universities, independent inventors and small business owners, especially those who are attempting to obtain venture capital for the commercialization of their inventions. If enacted, HR 2795 would be the most comprehensive change to the patent system in our nation's history. At the same time, it would weaken the best patent system in the world. It would open U.S. innovations to worldwide piracy through provisions such as first to file, worldwide publication of applications, third party input both pre- and post-grant, limitations on damages for infringement and prior user rights. Most damaging provisions in HR 2795: First to File - This provision will not guarantee that the actual inventor will be granted the patent. It creates conditions for very poor prior art, which is the existing knowledge of a similar innovation known to the general public. It burdens examiners with questionable applications by non-inventors. It creates a new malpractice liability for patent practitioners who may not beat another party to the patent office, thereby increasing the potential for litigation. 18-Month World Publication - The measure exposes to the general public worldwide what is currently confidential, and therefore very valuable to the actual inventor. It provides an open avenue for unscrupulous entities to pirate, then market a valuable new innovation before the true inventor(s) can commercialize their innovation. Prior User Rights - The measure would weaken patent protection by providing a defense for unscrupulous entities to claim prior use and allows full use without royalty payments to the actual inventor. Third Party Reexamination (Post Grant Review) - The provision would devalue a patent after it has been granted by allowing any party - foreign or domestic - to block its exclusive use by tying it up in this review period, which could be infinite. The patent loses all value if it is continually challenged by multiple parties who will now be given equal treatment in the process regardless of their merits. Any challenge should be limited to prior art not of record. In other words, new research - prior art - must be presented. Assignee Filing - For the first time in U.S. history - under this bill - a patent can be awarded directly to companies rather than the actual inventor. This is not what the Founding Fathers envisioned when they wrote the Constitution that grants exclusive protection of rights to inventors of their discoveries. Under the current law, it is difficult for an employer to file a patent application when the inventor refuses to sign a declaration or is otherwise unavailable. The proposal enables this to be done without the inventor's assistance. Generally, employees of businesses now sign contracts, which normally include any work done by the employee, that transfer ownership of the patent to the business. This provision further empowers corporations over their inventor-employees. Limiting Continuing Applications - Continuing Applications, in their current form, have been part of the U.S. Patent System for a long time. Among other things, this proposed provision precludes claiming an invention in a continuing application not claimed in the parent application. Pioneering patents, such as the discovery of and elimination of viruses, would be vastly limited under this proposal. Also, the bill proposes to limit this application path under the ruse of easing the patent application backlog for examiners. Congress
The reason for the patent system is to get people to fully disclose their invention. If inventors were not rewarded with the patent system they would keep as much of their invention secret as possible. Then others would not be able to build on their work. In your case the problem was that you did not check the published patents (prior art) to see if others had rights to what you wanted to do. You need to take responsibility for that failure.
See http://www.piausa.org./ This is not about real reform, it is about large predatory companies wanting to change the law to facilitate theft of others intellectual property. I am the president of PIAUSA and we are the same inventors who pulled the fangs from the last so called patent reform. Join our efforts to protect the patent syatem from the Microsofts of the world.