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At the Tocqueville Institution site here, try clicking accomplishments. ;)

go on The Mission page and read about their accomplishments.

i don't know for you but, when i click on 2. Accomplishments it gives "Not Found" ;)

go on The Mission page and read about their accomplishments.

i don't know for you but, when i click on 2. Accomplishments it gives "Not Found" ;)

..about where he got that FUD.

emeritus@adti.net

Hey hey, that Tocqueville site sure has done a lot for the world. Click here to see their mission and then take a look at their accomplishments.

I think it's quite funny to read:

"Since 1988, the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution has studied the spread and perfection of democracy around the world.
But still if you click "2. Accomplishments" you end up with a 404.
Same thing happens if you click on "Opportunity Africa", "Democracy China", "Cuba" or "Democracy Switzerland".
What have these guys been doing the last 16 years?

Your sig is wrong. It ought be libellous bastards.

I would frankly nail the libellous sons-of-bitches to the wall, profit or no.

I thing you meant libellous bastards.

If you go to the adti ADTI Public Accomplishments page, (Can be found from the "mission" on the main page.) You get a return of

Not Found
The requested URL http:// was not found on this server.

"Unfortunately however, the belief in free exchange characterizes a core disagreement with models (ie. proprietary software) that strive to own and protect ideas, to later leverage their value in the marketplace. Thus, mixing the open source world and the patent world has all the makings of an explosive relationship."

I have to say, the whole of this so-called "Institute" is starting to look pretty damned suspicious. Certainly, the world is not wanting for fools, and they do tend to organize into groups, but adti, with its history of poorly-produced, error-ridden, false & inflammatory "studies", really has all the markings of a couple of guys in their basement, making shit up, and then playing on the news media's tendency to spew out whatever is fed to them.

For example, their staff page lists a dozen or so people, including a "webmaster". Try clicking around the site, and notice that:

1. It's ugly
2. A lot of it is broken
3. A lot of it is unfinished
4. The parts that are finished are rife with spelling and grammatical errors

So the best conclusion you could draw about their "webmaster" (assuming he exists) is that he is about as smart and competent as Ken Brown, the "President" of adti. I'm appalled that Yahoo! parroted this press release as legitimate news -- I think they are being suckered.

P.S. Groklaw rocks. Happy Birthday Groklaw

Fact: AdTI employs James Kilpatrick as a senior fellow. Kilpatrick made a career defending segregation and apartheid.

Fact: AdTI employs John Norquist, the not-so-big-time younger brother of big-time conservative activist Grover Norquist.

Fact: AdTI president Ken Brown's sole research qualification is a BA in English from George Mason. He has built a career out of milking shady publications, agent-of-foreign-power lobby groups, and dubious business-academica-government incest groups.

Half of the links from the AdTI front page are broken. The other half send you to repositories of op-eds and recorded radio shows.

This is not a research institute. Not even a bad research institute. This is a demi-journalistic hack shop where goldbricking bottomfeeders of right-wing policy studies and editorial-writing filch cash from gullible corporations in return for hastily-written hokum.

Please do not post any more from these con artists. I'm sure they get paid by the hit.

Fact: AdTI employs James Kilpatrick as a senior fellow. Kilpatrick made a career defending segregation and apartheid.

Fact: AdTI employs John Norquist, the not-so-big-time younger brother of big-time conservative activist Grover Norquist.

Fact: AdTI president Ken Brown's sole research qualification is a BA in English from George Mason. He has built a career out of milking shady publications, agent-of-foreign-power lobby groups, and dubious business-academica-government incest groups.

Half of the links from the AdTI front page are broken. The other half send you to repositories of op-eds and recorded radio shows.

This is not a research institute. Not even a bad research institute. This is a demi-journalistic hack shop where goldbricking bottomfeeders of right-wing policy studies and editorial-writing filch cash from gullible corporations in return for hastily-written hokum.

Please do not post any more from these con artists. I'm sure they get paid by the hit.

As far as I can tell, the true father of Linux is in fact Al Gore. He invented it shortly after his fledgling idea of a net-inter caught on and became what we know now as the internet. It was originally called Alix, but had to be renamed due to copyright issues involving a book about wonderland....

Regardless of their evident funding sources, the group is obviously bankrolled by conservative corporate interests and publishes articles whose only purposes are to slander political oponents, promote conservative politicians and causes, and generally undermine anything that might threaten powerful monied interests (i.e. big corporations) in the U.S. or abroad.

A quick perusal of the articles on their site is enough to determine where their political bias lies, searching for the names of their officers and board members (found on their contact page) on google is simply a formality.

Accomplishments Page

Support Page

He doesn't cite anyone, using the 'people contacted at' crutch. He's also inconsistent in his opinion. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I'm, simply underwhelmed by the whole thing this guy is about and simply don't understand whether or not he's important, or if I should care.

Accomplishments Page

Support Page

He doesn't cite anyone, using the 'people contacted at' crutch. He's also inconsistent in his opinion. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I'm, simply underwhelmed by the whole thing this guy is about and simply don't understand whether or not he's important, or if I should care.

Where's the outcry from ADTI about the effects of the automobile industry on horse whip manufacturers?

First, most free software such as Linux, (the most popular because of its operating system capability), comes with a license that dictates that any all development of the product (which would have been valuable intellectual property) becomes community property and must subsequently become free as well.

Incorrect. No organization that utilizes free software is obligated to distribute the modifications to the code they created. (Of course, if that orgaznization distributes the program tehy develop, then they have to distribute the code.

In a widely quoted study, Baruch Lev of the Brookings Institution reported that in 1982, 62% of the market value of companies in the S & P 500 Index could be attributed to tangible assets, and only 38% to intangibles. By 1992, Lev noted, the ratio had essentially reversed: 32% of the assets for S & P companies were tangible, while 68% were intangible. A follow-up study by Brookings in 1998 reported that the asset ratio had shifted even more, with 85% of assets intangible, and only 15% tangible.

When people say "widely quoted" and don't even bother to cite a source, their credibility takes a beating.

Second, Linux initiatives have enabled foreign-based information technology firms with zero IP costs and cheap labor to easily compete with U.S. software companies.

Oh? Competition isn't good? Oops. Our bad. But in one instance,a backboe built out of lots of free software played a role in saving US government organizations $3-10 billion. Where's the outcry over the loos in business revenue for the existing phone companies?

Open Source activists that want to see Linux succeed argue that eventually, they want all intellectual property protection to end, including patents and trademarks. The bottom line is this: a non-IP future means that all companies in the Baruch Lev study go to from 85% to 0% in intangible asset value.

No we don't! Trademarks are very important, and I can't think of anyone in the OSS community who wants trademarks to go away. (i know, people will prove me wrong on this assertion).

As for patents, onClick.do() shouldn't be patentable. X=X+1; repeat; shouldn't be patentable. Business models suck and should not be patentable.

This reminds me of the white paper at http://www.adti.net/opensource.pdf by the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution. While they make some very good points, in the end I still don't agree with their argument.

Thursday May 30, 12:29 pm Eastern Time
Press Release
SOURCE: Alexis de Tocqueville Institution

Open Source Software May Offer Target for Terrorists, According to Study by Alexis de Tocqueville Institution's Committee for the Common Defense

WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 30, 2002--Terrorists trying to hack or disrupt U.S. computer networks might find it easier if the federal government attempts to switch to "open source" as some groups propose.

"Opening the Open Source Debate", a soon to be released white paper by Alexis de Tocqueville Institution details the complex issues surrounding open source, particularly if federal agencies such as the Department of Defense or the Federal Aviation Administration use software that inherently requires that its blueprints, source code and architecture is made widely available to any person interested - without discretion.

In a paper to be released next week, the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution outlines how open source might facilitate efforts to disrupt or sabotage electronic commerce, air traffic control or even sensitive surveillance systems.

Unlike proprietary software, open source software does not make the underlying code of a software confidential.

"Computer systems are the backbone of U.S. national security", says Fossedal, chairman of the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution and its Committee for the Common Defense, which will release the study. "Before the Pentagon and other federal agencies make uninformed decision to alter the very foundation of computer security, they should study the potential consequences carefully."

Thursday May 30, 12:29 pm Eastern Time
Press Release
SOURCE: Alexis de Tocqueville Institution

Open Source Software May Offer Target for Terrorists, According to Study by Alexis de Tocqueville Institution's Committee for the Common Defense

WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 30, 2002--Terrorists trying to hack or disrupt U.S. computer networks might find it easier if the federal government attempts to switch to "open source" as some groups propose.

"Opening the Open Source Debate", a soon to be released white paper by Alexis de Tocqueville Institution details the complex issues surrounding open source, particularly if federal agencies such as the Department of Defense or the Federal Aviation Administration use software that inherently requires that its blueprints, source code and architecture is made widely available to any person interested - without discretion.

In a paper to be released next week, the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution outlines how open source might facilitate efforts to disrupt or sabotage electronic commerce, air traffic control or even sensitive surveillance systems.

Unlike proprietary software, open source software does not make the underlying code of a software confidential.

"Computer systems are the backbone of U.S. national security", says Fossedal, chairman of the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution and its Committee for the Common Defense, which will release the study. "Before the Pentagon and other federal agencies make uninformed decision to alter the very foundation of computer security, they should study the potential consequences carefully."

Thursday May 30, 12:29 pm Eastern Time
Press Release
SOURCE: Alexis de Tocqueville Institution

Open Source Software May Offer Target for Terrorists, According to Study by Alexis de Tocqueville Institution's Committee for the Common Defense

WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 30, 2002--Terrorists trying to hack or disrupt U.S. computer networks might find it easier if the federal government attempts to switch to "open source" as some groups propose.

"Opening the Open Source Debate", a soon to be released white paper by Alexis de Tocqueville Institution details the complex issues surrounding open source, particularly if federal agencies such as the Department of Defense or the Federal Aviation Administration use software that inherently requires that its blueprints, source code and architecture is made widely available to any person interested - without discretion.

In a paper to be released next week, the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution outlines how open source might facilitate efforts to disrupt or sabotage electronic commerce, air traffic control or even sensitive surveillance systems.

Unlike proprietary software, open source software does not make the underlying code of a software confidential.

"Computer systems are the backbone of U.S. national security", says Fossedal, chairman of the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution and its Committee for the Common Defense, which will release the study. "Before the Pentagon and other federal agencies make uninformed decision to alter the very foundation of computer security, they should study the potential consequences carefully."

Alexis De Tocqueville Institution. The paper was titled "Opening the Open Source Debate". Alexis would be rolling in his grave to see what use they make of his name.

Wired article

Slashdot article, and a followup a week later.

Alexis De Tocqueville Institution. The paper was titled "Opening the Open Source Debate". Alexis would be rolling in his grave to see what use they make of his name.

Wired article

Slashdot article, and a followup a week later.

Neat find. I'll admit that this white paper business was the first I'd really paid attention to ADTI. Some of these little misc. pages are kind of unnerving. How in the world do they say that they're "non profit, non partisan?" Their leanings and bias are painfully obvious to even the man with the worst eyesight in the world.

My personal favorite: "Conservative Think Tanks Having Impact"

Bah. I need to stop reading this junk. This was very insightful, so I won't complain. I was secretly hoping that if I kept going up the parent directories I'd eventually hit their system root or some bizarre spreadsheet that documented their "non-profits." Oh well.

• http://www.adti.net/html_files/technology/anders on ad_techtrends020501.html
• http://www.adti.net/html_files/technology/purpsq ui rrel_familiarity0201.html
• http://www.adti.net/html_files/technology/Weston _c ounty_gazette_041901.html
• http://www.adti.net/html_files/technology/Standa rd _examiner_techtrends041001.html

I went to the site I thought it was and the paper appears to be for sale(?) But, being the web wizards that they are, they left the directories publically readable, so... here's the white paper (don't know if it's the revised version or not - I don't have time to dig through it again)

Just drop down to the /defense/ directory to browse whatever else they have.

I went to the site I thought it was and the paper appears to be for sale(?) But, being the web wizards that they are, they left the directories publically readable, so... here's the white paper (don't know if it's the revised version or not - I don't have time to dig through it again)

Just drop down to the /defense/ directory to browse whatever else they have.

you're right also. you'll hear bad hacker stories when referring to people breaking into microsoft computers. if the tide turns i predict you will hear linux is insecure stories. it's the price we pay for having a corporate controlled media. i've been reading a book about this very topic:

Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media


while i dont agree with all of chomskey's opionions, i do find little to disagree with so far in this book.

the book actually talks about think tanks funded by corporations used to lend credence to corporate opionions. a good example of this can be found in the recent paper released by the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution.

the paper seems to have disappeared, but i seem to have a copy here:

http://sage.che.pitt.edu/~harrold/tmp/old_opensour ce_whitepaper.pdf

you're right also. you'll hear bad hacker stories when referring to people breaking into microsoft computers. if the tide turns i predict you will hear linux is insecure stories. it's the price we pay for having a corporate controlled media. i've been reading a book about this very topic:

Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media


while i dont agree with all of chomskey's opionions, i do find little to disagree with so far in this book.

the book actually talks about think tanks funded by corporations used to lend credence to corporate opionions. a good example of this can be found in the recent paper released by the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution.

the paper seems to have disappeared, but i seem to have a copy here:

http://sage.che.pitt.edu/~harrold/tmp/old_opensour ce_whitepaper.pdf

Atdi's easter egg -- is there something wrong going on here?

Just have a look on this :
http://www.adti.net/html_files/technology/punishin g_winners_hurts.html

The last paragraph almost says it all :

Firms have to play rough to succeed in the today's global marketplace. If we want our industries to dominate the world, we have to abide some brutish business tactics, and we have to let those firms play for the biggest stakes, including market domination. It boils down to this: We would be better off with more companies like Microsoft, not fewer.

The page was generated with Adobe Go Live, and the mission statement is an image or something else difficult to copy, so I had to type it by hand for your enjoyment.

Since 1988, the Alexis de Toqueville Institution has studied the spread and perfection of democracy around the world. I'm not impressed

In this we follow the principles of Toqueville himself...

At the root, perhaps, is a populist belief in the basic goodness, perfectibility, and nobility of mankind and of the human community....

Our principles guide the selection of which issues are critical to the advancement of freedom - but we don't rush to judgment about which means will be most effective in producing it.

I'm afraid that they have rushed to judgment and condemned one of the most important documents protecting freedom of speech today. The GPL is the only document that insures that you will have control of your computer and therefore your publications will not be censored at the source. It does this by insuring that the possesor of GPL code will always have the ability to use, understand, modify and distribute that code as they see fit without reducing the rights of other users to do the same. Code that does not insure this right has all of the security flaws and fears raised in Ken Browns paper as the owner does not know what the machine is doing or have the ability to change it. ADTI completely misses the point and condemn the GPL because they fear it can not be comercialized in the conventional fashion and many other incorrect and confused reasons. This is a shame because there is nothing more important for "democracy" and freedom than the free exchange of information the GPL ultimately protects.

The greatest contradiction is seems to be their main reason for rejecting the GPL as a license worth using: that volunteer efforts can not match commercial ones, and that the GPL community of volunteers is a myth. Well, I'm sitting here with my mythical OS, typing into a mythical text editor, for a mythical browser. All are far better than commercial alternatives. All were developed and rely on tools created by volunteers and others who really do believe in the goodness and freedoms of their users. No one who has respect for his neighbor would ever say that people could not co-operate without a profit motive, but this is what Ken concludes,

...Removing the economic incentive for firms to own the rights to products spawned from research and development programs is the surest way to end their existence... the [Greatest risk of the GPL] is its threat to the cooperation between different parties who collaborate and create new technologies.

What utter hogwash. The GPL enables all to participate in the development of new technology and removes many artificial barriers. The fruit of all the mentioned government programs has been brought to me in a form I can manipulate by Debian. The number of sound scientific programs I now have access to, through GNU compilers, is uncountable. There are few academic publishers who would have it any other way, they exist to teach and promote their various specialties. To top it off, large companies will continue to pour money into the exploitation of these technologies because it is in their best financial interest. So much the better if that means their derivative works will be available to me as well. How can anyone intellectually honest say otherwise, especially while espousing freedom and the goodness of man?

Oh, enough. The more I read of this MicroSoft parrot's garbage, the angrier I get. Especially unkind and untrue is the assertion that RMS is a "fallen hero" viewed as radical. I respect that man more every day. Ken Brown, you are a 1/4 watt bulb.

C'mon, people, don't let them get you so head-up over a stupid piece of paper written stupidly. Check the site, especially their "touted accomplishments". It's a hard-right group for hire making hay with a good-sounding name and a crappy website. Nobody who knows the industry pays any attention to these morons, it's just red meat for the pro-MS crowd, bought & paid for.

God, how one can look at the painful stupidity of their arguments and not laugh is amazing. It's the most tortured piece of predetermined reasoning I've seen in a while. It's sad, when there are real think tanks that do real thorough work ala Rand Corp, that fly-by-nighters like this can give the industry a bad name so easily.

C'mon, people, don't let them get you so head-up over a stupid piece of paper written stupidly. Check the site, especially their "touted accomplishments". It's a hard-right group for hire making hay with a good-sounding name and a crappy website. Nobody who knows the industry pays any attention to these morons, it's just red meat for the pro-MS crowd, bought & paid for.

God, how one can look at the painful stupidity of their arguments and not laugh is amazing. It's the most tortured piece of predetermined reasoning I've seen in a while. It's sad, when there are real think tanks that do real thorough work ala Rand Corp, that fly-by-nighters like this can give the industry a bad name so easily.

Many of the headlines are quite revealing about their intentions. Many are about the importance of MCSE:

• Inc. 500 Shops Value Certification Most (MCSE vs college degrees)
• Familiarity Breeds Respect

  "Recruiters tend to hire MCSEs just as often, if not more so, than those with a four-year college degree."

• Technology Trends: Program Provides Information For New Age

  "Eighty-seven percent of human resource managers surveyed believed that MCSE's are equally or more successful than college students."

• The Impact of Technology Training Programs Case Study: MCSE Training

• Break up Microsoft? Rest of world pooh-poohs the notion
• Press Release: Japan, Switzerland, and the EU do NOT insist on breakup of Microsoft, unlike the U.S.
• Fine Microsoft, use funds for new competition (anti-breakup)
• Fine Microsoft and use funds to catalize new competition (anti-breakup)
• Break-up Remedy for Microsoft Not Supported by Key Democrats
• Technology and The Congressional Black Caucus (Microsoft anti-trust)
• Breaking Windows Over Antitrust Dogma
• Pause the Microsoft Case and Examine U.S. Anti-trust Policy
• Punishing Winners Hurts the Marketplace
• Suit Threatens U.S. Computer Dominance
• Taking a Byte Out of Microsoft

Make your own conclusions freely.

Many of the headlines are quite revealing about their intentions. Many are about the importance of MCSE:

• Inc. 500 Shops Value Certification Most (MCSE vs college degrees)
• Familiarity Breeds Respect

  "Recruiters tend to hire MCSEs just as often, if not more so, than those with a four-year college degree."

• Technology Trends: Program Provides Information For New Age

  "Eighty-seven percent of human resource managers surveyed believed that MCSE's are equally or more successful than college students."

• The Impact of Technology Training Programs Case Study: MCSE Training

• Break up Microsoft? Rest of world pooh-poohs the notion
• Press Release: Japan, Switzerland, and the EU do NOT insist on breakup of Microsoft, unlike the U.S.
• Fine Microsoft, use funds for new competition (anti-breakup)
• Fine Microsoft and use funds to catalize new competition (anti-breakup)
• Break-up Remedy for Microsoft Not Supported by Key Democrats
• Technology and The Congressional Black Caucus (Microsoft anti-trust)
• Breaking Windows Over Antitrust Dogma
• Pause the Microsoft Case and Examine U.S. Anti-trust Policy
• Punishing Winners Hurts the Marketplace
• Suit Threatens U.S. Computer Dominance
• Taking a Byte Out of Microsoft

Make your own conclusions freely.

Many of the headlines are quite revealing about their intentions. Many are about the importance of MCSE:

• Inc. 500 Shops Value Certification Most (MCSE vs college degrees)
• Familiarity Breeds Respect

  "Recruiters tend to hire MCSEs just as often, if not more so, than those with a four-year college degree."

• Technology Trends: Program Provides Information For New Age

  "Eighty-seven percent of human resource managers surveyed believed that MCSE's are equally or more successful than college students."

• The Impact of Technology Training Programs Case Study: MCSE Training

• Break up Microsoft? Rest of world pooh-poohs the notion
• Press Release: Japan, Switzerland, and the EU do NOT insist on breakup of Microsoft, unlike the U.S.
• Fine Microsoft, use funds for new competition (anti-breakup)
• Fine Microsoft and use funds to catalize new competition (anti-breakup)
• Break-up Remedy for Microsoft Not Supported by Key Democrats
• Technology and The Congressional Black Caucus (Microsoft anti-trust)
• Breaking Windows Over Antitrust Dogma
• Pause the Microsoft Case and Examine U.S. Anti-trust Policy
• Punishing Winners Hurts the Marketplace
• Suit Threatens U.S. Computer Dominance
• Taking a Byte Out of Microsoft

Make your own conclusions freely.

• Inc. 500 Shops Value Certification Most (MCSE vs college degrees)
  
• Familiarity Breeds Respect
  "Recruiters tend to hire MCSEs just as often, if not more so, than those with a four-year college degree."
  
• Technology Trends: Program Provides Information For New Age
  
  "Eighty-seven percent of human resource managers surveyed believed that MCSE's are equally or more successful than college students."
  
• The Impact of Technology Training Programs Case Study: MCSE Training
  

• Break up Microsoft? Rest of world pooh-poohs the notion
  
• Press Release: Japan, Switzerland, and the EU do NOT insist on breakup of Microsoft, unlike the U.S.
  
• Fine Microsoft, use funds for new competition (anti-breakup)
  
• Fine Microsoft and use funds to catalize new competition (anti-breakup)
  
• Break-up Remedy for Microsoft Not Supported by Key Democrats
  
• Technology and The Congressional Black Caucus (Microsoft anti-trust)
  
• Breaking Windows Over Antitrust Dogma
  
• Pause the Microsoft Case and Examine U.S. Anti-trust Policy
  
• Punishing Winners Hurts the Marketplace
  
• Suit Threatens U.S. Computer Dominance
  
• Taking a Byte Out of Microsoft
  

• Inc. 500 Shops Value Certification Most (MCSE vs college degrees)
  
• Familiarity Breeds Respect
  "Recruiters tend to hire MCSEs just as often, if not more so, than those with a four-year college degree."
  
• Technology Trends: Program Provides Information For New Age
  
  "Eighty-seven percent of human resource managers surveyed believed that MCSE's are equally or more successful than college students."
  
• The Impact of Technology Training Programs Case Study: MCSE Training
  

• Break up Microsoft? Rest of world pooh-poohs the notion
  
• Press Release: Japan, Switzerland, and the EU do NOT insist on breakup of Microsoft, unlike the U.S.
  
• Fine Microsoft, use funds for new competition (anti-breakup)
  
• Fine Microsoft and use funds to catalize new competition (anti-breakup)
  
• Break-up Remedy for Microsoft Not Supported by Key Democrats
  
• Technology and The Congressional Black Caucus (Microsoft anti-trust)
  
• Breaking Windows Over Antitrust Dogma
  
• Pause the Microsoft Case and Examine U.S. Anti-trust Policy
  
• Punishing Winners Hurts the Marketplace
  
• Suit Threatens U.S. Computer Dominance
  
• Taking a Byte Out of Microsoft
  

• Inc. 500 Shops Value Certification Most (MCSE vs college degrees)
  
• Familiarity Breeds Respect
  "Recruiters tend to hire MCSEs just as often, if not more so, than those with a four-year college degree."
  
• Technology Trends: Program Provides Information For New Age
  
  "Eighty-seven percent of human resource managers surveyed believed that MCSE's are equally or more successful than college students."
  
• The Impact of Technology Training Programs Case Study: MCSE Training
  

• Break up Microsoft? Rest of world pooh-poohs the notion
  
• Press Release: Japan, Switzerland, and the EU do NOT insist on breakup of Microsoft, unlike the U.S.
  
• Fine Microsoft, use funds for new competition (anti-breakup)
  
• Fine Microsoft and use funds to catalize new competition (anti-breakup)
  
• Break-up Remedy for Microsoft Not Supported by Key Democrats
  
• Technology and The Congressional Black Caucus (Microsoft anti-trust)
  
• Breaking Windows Over Antitrust Dogma
  
• Pause the Microsoft Case and Examine U.S. Anti-trust Policy
  
• Punishing Winners Hurts the Marketplace
  
• Suit Threatens U.S. Computer Dominance
  
• Taking a Byte Out of Microsoft
  

Good point, but isn't the picture on their contact page one of the installation splash screens from WinME? Just throw in a silver haired grandmother surfing the web with her smiling golden haired grandchild, and you're there.

Seriously though, that's a very good point. We cry wolf so often that we're beginning to see conspiracy theories everywhere. Or perhaps that's just the chemicals the government puts in the drinking water making me say that.

to prove a point, if the adti.net is running IIS someone should crack it ... =)

_f

These claims are circumstantial, arising primarily from the slew of pro-MS memos among their publications, and the testimony ADTI submitted on Microsoft's behalf at the Dept. of Justice trial. To quote another source:

I have not found a specific link between Microsoft and ADTI... but Microsoft is known to be funding similar conservative organizations. See:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/cti306.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/cth989.htm
http://www.prospect.org/print/V11/16/marshall-j.ht ml http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/ms_tuncom/public/29 / tc-00028697.htm

• Make fund raising calls
• Put together a list of organizations interested in an issue
• Find organizations and individuals that might support a particular AdTI program

So they're a research-for-hire house, and they're going to send out a press-release that says Open Source is insecure. Now put yourself in a new-hire's shoes... Name a company that has deep pockets and might be interested in funding anti-OSS "research"...

do not care about their web presence

can't code a lickin

leave huge potential exploits wide open and

are either extremely stupid or hypocritical

I hope you feel the same

do not care about their web presence

can't code a lickin

leave huge potential exploits wide open and

are either extremely stupid or hypocritical

I hope you feel the same

• Make fund raising calls
• Put together a list of organizations interested in an issue
• Organize a mailing
• Find organizations and individuals that might support a particular AdTI program
• Do a fund-raising letter

Who cares what a "Think Tank" says?

Why does this organization get any press anyway? What exactly is a think tank, and what credentials does it have? I mean, is this anything more than an organization dedicated to producing biased press releases?

The organization's mission statement is completely devoid of meaning.

"Since 1988, the Alexis de tocqueville Instition has studied the spread and perfection of democracy around the world. In this, we follow the principles of Tocqueville himself... At the root, perhaps, is a populist belief in the basic goodness, perfectability, and nobility of mankind and of the human community...Operationally, adTI strives to emulate what one scholar has termed Tocqueville's 'omnicurious style of journalism."

Say what? I mean, read the whole mission statement. It says absolutely nothing using a lot of jackoff big words. I don't get what any of it has to do w/de Tocqueville, a french author who reported on US culture a hundred fifty years ago.

The fact that MS is funding this-- WHO ARE THESE GUYS?! I mean, why would anyone even CARE or bother reporting their opinion?

Sometimes I think these organizations exist soley to have their representatives on talk shows and to have a semblance of a structure from which to spew their opinion.

"We would be better off with more companies like Microsoft, not fewer."

However, how can we have more companies like Microsoft when that very article is condoning a monolopy? Yes, I acknowledge that they're probably talking about 'one monopoly in each market'. However, we all know that Microsoft is trying to take over as many markets as possible. How far away is Microsoft-branded Vegemite? :)

Stupid. Totally, absolutely stupid.