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unlike you, I do not give people that much credit when it comes to the logic, reasoning and intelligence in general. Especially not the people who work for government.

This is not surprising given what the electorate looks like and it has been known for thousands of years.

My dad, David W. Allan, worked with the Atomic clock at NIST until 1992 when he retired. The "Allan Variance" is an algorithm at the heart of international time-keeping.

He has continued his research on a tangent subject of a new unified field theory. He is in process of implementing some of his theories by way of ultra-precision positioning. You might find his theory worth review. AllansTIME.com

He also has passion in the subject of health. His solar home is likewise a hallmark of his forward thinking. http://allanstime.com/SolarHome/

My dad, David W. Allan, worked with the Atomic clock at NIST until 1992 when he retired. The "Allan Variance" is an algorithm at the heart of international time-keeping.

He has continued his research on a tangent subject of a new unified field theory. He is in process of implementing some of his theories by way of ultra-precision positioning. You might find his theory worth review. AllansTIME.com

He also has passion in the subject of health. His solar home is likewise a hallmark of his forward thinking. http://allanstime.com/SolarHome/

My dad, David W. Allan, worked with the Atomic clock at NIST until 1992 when he retired. The "Allan Variance" is an algorithm at the heart of international time-keeping.

He has continued his research on a tangent subject of a new unified field theory. He is in process of implementing some of his theories by way of ultra-precision positioning. You might find his theory worth review. AllansTIME.com

He also has passion in the subject of health. His solar home is likewise a hallmark of his forward thinking. http://allanstime.com/SolarHome/

Actually, the Unified Theory is already accepted in some scientific circles, and it can be thought of as an alternate to the theory of gravity.

The MRI machines used in hospitals have 8-12 ton magnets. The biggest magnet now is 150 tons.

Size does matter ;p. So it is important to point out that a small effective sphere of 8T is much less impressive than a gigantic one of lesser field strength. The Earth relatively "weak" magnetic field has an impressively large area of efficacy that HAMs can attest to. HAARP and the aurora borealis show how large scale weak fields can, if you were to find the total potential the field provides rather than its peak strength, do huge tasks.

Is that the best way to explain it? "if you were to summate all the potential the field provides" rather than look at peak values?

My recommendation is: those who are uncertain of their HTML coding abiliities should stick to plain-text and simply give the URLs:

• NASA BPP, proposal summaries (not sure if that was the intended link -- but you can search NASA yourself I suppose>)
• LLNL: Condensed Matter, abstract
• AntiGravity Research Conference
• Ning Lees Research (actually "Skeggs & Ning Li on Gravitational Modification")
• Nasa pumps 600k into research and has had tests
• AEI: John Hutchinson's Theories
• Japanese Anti-Gravity Experiment

That's all I have to contribute. Despite all the debate, "build your own UFO" looks like a fun thing to distract myself with some weekend.

We do have anti gravity.Scientists call it super conductivity. Super Conductivity
A technology NASA has right now which is called gravity shield. NASA only spent 600k on research, but the military could have spent hundreds of millions researching this.

QuoteIn response to the propulsion challenges specified by NASA's Breakthrough Propulsion Physics (BPP) program, the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center proposes to empirically explore the possibility of iinducing gravity modification through Josephson junction effects in magnetized, high-Tc superconducting oxides. Our technical goal is to critically test emerging physical concepts and provide rigorous empirical confirmation (or refutation) of anomalous effects related to the manipulation of gravity by magnetized type-II superconductors. Because the current empirical evidence for gravity modification is anecdotal, we propose, as a first step, to design, construct, and meticulously carry out a discriminating experiment. Our approach is unique in that we will construct an extremely sensitive torsional gravity balance to measure gravity modification effects by radio-frequency-pumped type-II superconductor test masses. Analysis indicates that an effective change in mass of less than 1 percent would be readily detectable by state-of-the-art differential capacitance transducers. The entire project is to be completed in 12 months. If uncontested positive effects can be detected, it would seem to imply a fundamentally new method for creating motion without propellant. This goes directly to the heart of BPP goal 1 which has the stated aim of reducing or eliminating the need for mass ejection from spacecraft propulsion systems."

This was in 1999. Its 2002. That was NASA, a government entity, so if NASA has anti gravity, the military has it too.

Gravity can be manipulated provided you have enough energy to do so, in lab experiments we've shown anti gravity works

Examples
Nasa



Ning Lees Research
Nasa pumps 600k into research and has had tests
Theories

http://www.totse.com/en/fringe/gravity_anti_grav it y/antigrv1.html

As you see, theres many anti gravity experiments which have been done in labs, its its done in a lab, chances are the military has prototype aircraft based on it. With so many theories of how it can be done, do you actually think none of these theories were successful? If any of them were our government would classify it.

Anyway, I agree that solar input has to be included in climate models, and I'm pretty sure it is. The problem is our understanding of the long term cycle of the Sun still is uncertain as well. As for nuclear testing affecting other things, its possible that nuclear testing has some small effects on the climate, but I can imagine how it could effect the Sun and solar flares. I find that unlikely to the extreme. Its seems like someone probably found some small degree of corellation between nuclear testing and solar flares, and then said that this corellation implied causation. Not a very convincing argument, to say the least.

Not only are our models bad, they're way off the mark. So don't hold your breath. A supercomputer will bring faster results, but the results will still be wrong.

If you're going to model earth climate, you should at the very least bring in the complexities of the sun into equation, and not just as a constant source of radiation. You'd also have to predict the future of nuke-testing, as these have been shown to affect both solar flares and earth climate. I couldn't find a better link than this explaining it, but I've seen that argument in other places too. Wether it's true or not is beside the question, it's the price you have to pay for searching for new answers.

- Steeltoe