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  1. Intel Microsoft bed-buddies by Innominandum · · Score: 1 · on Windows Reaches 64-Bits, For OEMs
    Why does Intel insist on sucking Microsoft's ass? Intel has given Microsoft the opportunity of having Windows ready for the launch of IA64, at their expense. This could have been an opportunity to lessen Microsoft's grip over the next generation of computers.

    If a quality operating system (which are abundant for IA32) could have been produced for IA64 before Windows was, it would have made a huge dent in the Windows IA64 market share.

    Developers eager to develop IA64 applications would use the first operating system available. Initially, there would be more software available for the first operating system out the gate. And people would recognize the first operating system as "the" native operating system. The implications are obvious.

    Also, I have a feeling Intel will focus IA64 for on servers and stuff like that. I don't think the average person will be using this on their home for a long time. Which would be another mistake because it would lower the chances of widespread adoption. If that happens, let's hope we're using 64-bit processors in our homes by 2020. :)

    Honestly, I am still way way more interested in Alpha. (The "server focus" mistake is ongoing.) I hope they are able to continue supporting it.

  2. What about API Networks (Alpha Processor, Inc)? by jfanning · · Score: 1 · on Compaq Transfers Alpha to Intel

    What does this mean for API Networks then? http://www.alpha-processor.com

    On their website it says that "API NetWorks, Inc. (formerly Alpha Processor, Inc.) was founded in June of 1998 and is a privately held company based in Concord, Massachusetts. Funded by Samsung Electronics Co., LTD. and Compaq Computer Corp."

    "API NetWorks is a co-developer (with AMD) of the next generation high-speed I/O HyperTransportTM (formerly known as LDT) technology..."

    Plus, it also says that they provide Alpha based solutions and also do development work on the Alpha.

    Jody

  3. Re:Compaq DOES NOT OWN ALPHA by turbo(mx) · · Score: 1 · on Compaq Transfers Alpha to Intel

    Are you sure? I've checked alpha-processor site and there is no notice about this issue. I really wish Alpha will survive Compaq/Intel menace.

  4. Re:You're asking too much of a 1u chasis... by ivan256 · · Score: 2 · on Fitting 2 PCI Cards into a 1U Case?

    Don't underestimate 1U boxes until you see this: http://www.alpha-processor.com/products/cs20.shtml

    Not only does it have two PCI slots, but it's shorter then most 1U boxes, and it has 2 alpha processors in it! I didn't believe it until I saw one in person.

  5. Yeesh, been running dual Athlons for 14 months by green+pizza · · Score: 2 · on Dual Athlon Motherboards Creep Closer

    I'm posting this from a dual Athlon, in fact. Dual Slot-A Athlons @ 650 MHz each on a dual EV6 motherboard from API. The only major downside is wonky AGP, but my PCI Matrox Millenium II is keeping up pretty well (I don't play games or do anything 3D anyway). True, it would be faster if I would use actual EV6 Alpha 21264s...

  6. Alpha MB by Mike1024 · · Score: 5 · on What Happened To SMP For AMD processors?
    Hey,

    I have read on internet (www.aceshardware.com I think) that you can use existing alpha mb to put K7 into it; word is the K7 uses the Slot A (DEC Alpha) interface and so is supposed to support alpha style SMP. So the K7 should have nice SMP, scable up to 32 processors.

    If you wanted just dual processors, this implies A UP2000 or suchlike would do the job, but I can't say for sure.

    Here's a qoute from Paul Jakma

    Interestingly the new *Alpha* 21264 UP1000 motherboard uses the AMD Irongate chipset.. they also have a dual 21264 UP2000 board based on a DEC chipset. So it seems K7/Alpha chipsets are interchangeable, so then K7 SMP is probably possible using the DEC chipset.

    And here's a qoute from Acehardware.com:

    Alpha:Slot-A:Slot-B:Athlon KH Yeap Wednesday,
    June 23, 1999 (10:00 AM EST)
    Ok, at the ongoing PC Expo in New York, Alpha
    Processor Inc. is demo'ing its new
    Alpha-21264 750 Mhz, which is expected to
    come out in July. More interestingly a 1 Ghz
    versions of the processor, which runs under
    regular air-cool condition, is also demo'ed
    along with a Slot-A motherboard, UP1000, and
    a Slot-B motherboard, UP2000. For further
    details check out this News.com report.

    Now, a lot of people have been wondering
    about the possibility of running a K7 on an
    Alpha Slot-A or Slot-B motherboard. According
    to Alpha, yes, this is possible. To make
    things even more interesting Alpha's new
    Slot-A motherboard, UP1000, uses a chipset
    that is a hybrid between AMD's very own K7
    chipset, Irongate (AMD-751), and ALI's
    M1543C!! PC Watch Japan has a great shot of
    this UP1000 motherboard. Also appears on PC
    Watch is a photo of the Slot-B UP2000 and a
    photo of the 1 Ghz Slot-B Alpha processor.
    Special thanks to Daiki for this wonderful
    tips.

    So, you could try an Alpha dual-processor Motherboard but I can't give you any garuntees.

    Michael

    ...another comment from Michael Tandy.

  7. Re:Alpha: too expensive by ackthpt · · Score: 1 · on Coming Soon From Intel

    Well, the Alpha would have a much bigger market penetration if it wasn't so damn expensive. Do you really want to spend $3000 just for the CPU and motherboard? I know I don't have that money. I suspect that an awful lot of people are in that situation.

    Otherwise, aside from that and the occasional lack of 64bit cleanness, the Alpha is a nice platform.

    You also don't have the time to even look. As an example, go to Microway and look at their Alpha workstations. A 533MHz 21164 w/NT4 or RH6.2 for $1,995. I'm pretty sure I've even seen lower prices on Alphas, shop around.

    Vote Naked 2000

  8. Re:Alpha=El Mucho Buckso by Anonymous+Covard · · Score: 1 · on IBM To Produce Copper Alphas For Compaq
    For starters, there doesn't appear to be a lot of places selling those things out there. I've tried searching the 'Net, I didn't find anything. I couldn't believe it when I searched shop.yahoo.com, which basically aggregates hundreds (if not thousands) of merchants' e-commerce shops under one roof, and came up dry.

    Try this link: http://www.alpha-processor.com/resellers/system_ve ndors.shtml

    I don't know if the proces will be to your liking, but at least you'll have 31 vendors to evaluate.

  9. Re:Alpha=El Mucho Buckso by wwelch · · Score: 2 · on IBM To Produce Copper Alphas For Compaq

    Did you check Compaq and Samsung's marketing company's website? Alpha Processor Inc. They have a list of system vendor's. You'll probably be able to find a EV56 machine for around $2000.

    What is impossible to find is a place that will sell you just a motherboard or just an Alpha. If I could go out and buy my own EV6 and mb and build the rest of the machine around it, I would have done so a long time ago.

    Bill

  10. Re:Alpha=El Mucho Buckso by wwelch · · Score: 2 · on IBM To Produce Copper Alphas For Compaq

    Did you check Compaq and Samsung's marketing company's website? Alpha Processor Inc. They have a list of system vendor's. You'll probably be able to find a EV56 machine for around $2000.

    What is impossible to find is a place that will sell you just a motherboard or just an Alpha. If I could go out and buy my own EV6 and mb and build the rest of the machine around it, I would have done so a long time ago.

    Bill

  11. Re:hmmm...still nothing on pricewatch.com by wwelch · · Score: 1 · on 1.4-1.6 GHz Alphas

    You can find a list of vendor's on API's website.

    What I'm really looking for is a EV6 and motherboard. (I had fun building the rest of the box around my EV56 and 164LX board.) Anyone know where these can be found?

  12. Re:hmmm...still nothing on pricewatch.com by wwelch · · Score: 1 · on 1.4-1.6 GHz Alphas

    You can find a list of vendor's on API's website.

    What I'm really looking for is a EV6 and motherboard. (I had fun building the rest of the box around my EV56 and 164LX board.) Anyone know where these can be found?

  13. Re:Few points... by rbf · · Score: 1 · on Experiences of Running Linux on a Mainframe

    What about Microway's Alpha-based systems? $1995 for a 533MHz 21164...

    21164 based systems have been discontiued for some time now, see API's web site. Note the "LX" is marked as "discontinued."

  14. Much of your data is flawed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Compaq: Alpha is Better Than IA-64

    One of the most important things a 64 bit system gives you is a larger virtual address space. As well as the ability to use more than 4 gigs of ram which is VERY important for servers.

    Further more, Alpha is NOT available from only a single source.
    www.alpha-processor.com
    Samsung
    But help me out here, I thought they were going to use the SAME BUS and CONNECTOR as the Athlon chips? Wasn't there a DEC and AMD agreement like 30 Billion years ago about this? Rewrite the BIOS for an Athlon board (or just go without one) and boot your favorite OS on a commodity motherboard.
    The Samsung chips are supposed to be around 250 in lots of 1000. Thats bloody good. But then again, Athlon is almost as good as Alpha in terms of architecture so I just AMD to go 64bit soon.

  15. Re:The love & hate relationship of Intel & Compaq by GnrcMan · · Score: 2 · on Compaq: Alpha is Better Than IA-64

    Don't forget that Intel actually manufactures some AXP CPU's! Digital sold their Alpha Fab plants. I think API makes them as well as Samsung(?) and Intel.

    --GnrcMan--

  16. Re:ASM coding by sterwill · · Score: 2 · on V2 OS

    First off, start yourself on a real architecture (one designed and implemented cleanly and completely) like an Alpha. Then, buy a good book on Alpha assembly hacking. Linux and the GNU assembler will work fine. It's quite a bit of fun, and learning about a nice, powerful architecture is a joy in itself.

    --

  17. Re:compaq and linux? by ninjaz · · Score: 1 · on Compaq announces Beta test for Linux Alpha C compiler
    Alpha Processor, Inc. is currently the one focused on this. See this URL: Alpha Processor, Inc.

    They had a booth at LinuxWorld in San Jose this year, and I had the occasion to watch the presentation. Apparently, they've decided to actually put some marketing behind Alpha to help promote its use. Samsung is the most prolific Alpha chip manufacturer right now afaik.

    Now if they would just fix the API website to no longer have .asp's and get rid of the mention of Microsoft being a partner...