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Gee!Just take the train.
What? No trains? Just ask for more!!!
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Re:Not cost-effectiveA Chicago to New York maglev is an insteresting proposition. That 750 miles equates to 1200km, and at the discount price of only $19 million per kilometer (half of the "projected" cost in Germany), amounts to $28 trillion. That's just for laying the track and doesn't take into account any rights of way, easements, additional bridge work (at around $50 million per for widening and strengthening), tunneling or bridges for all car crossings, etc. We can get to Mars for a lot less.
The traffic isn't there to even set up a simple air shuttle service, such as the Delta and USAir DC-NYC-BOS services which already exist. Hell, "regular" NYC-Chicago train service is either the 20-hour 6:35a.m.-2:25a.m. Pennsylvanian or the 17.5-hour 1:45 p.m.-9:08a.m. Three Rivers -- and both of them require a connection in Philly. While an NYC-ORD flight on USAir might require a stop in Philly, you'll be there in less than 17 hours.
Two hours to get through security in an airport is a bit steep unless you're playing the funny guy and making stupid jokes. When I got pulled out of line for an "interview" with some FBI guys, I still made it through in about an hour.
You also ignore the fact that you have to get to a train station, which, admittedly, is generally faster than getting to an airport. Unless you live in the suburbs. When I visit DC, it takes me 40 minutes to get between the house and Union Station; it takes me 20-30 minutes to get to National or Dulles.
Don't get me wrong: I like the maglev idea, but right now, it makes no sense economically or practically.
woof.
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Re:Practicality of New TechnologiesIf you could cheaply load your car on as well (think land-ferry), this would be a kickass way to vacation with a small car or minivan.
Amtrak already does this, depending on your definition of "cheaply".
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Re:Trains as a broad social concept.
The North-East Corridor already has high speed electric trains.
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Re:Interesting, but Fundamentally Flawed ArgumentPerhaps, but the same ID regulations now apply to domestic train travel as well.
It would be interesting to see how one would use a train to crash into a skyscraper.
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Re:Well, Amtrak reimburses you tooDid you know that Amtrak will also reimburse you if a train is significantly late, you spend the entire trip with a kid kicking the back of your seat and the attendant won't let you move, etc.? All you have to do is call and ask for it. The standard rules for dealing with customer/tech support apply... BE NICE, understand that they are not REQUIRED to do anything particularly amazing for you but do have the OPTION to, etc.
I don't know if 30 minutes qualifies, but I can tell you I've gotten vouchers for the full amount of my fare, sleeper cost included, for a train that was a couple hours late. And I've gotten partial-fare vouchers more than once as well. See http://www.amtrak.com/about/satisfaction.html
In terms of customer service, within the past couple years, I've had MUCH, MUCH better luck with Amtrak than with airlines.
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Try Amtrak's Acela Express: Boston - Washington DCThe Acela Express travels at up to 150mph, and does the New York-DC leg in about 2hrs 45 minutes. That's very competitive with flying, given that you don't have the airport hassle. It also stops at some intermediate locations, so you don't necessarily have to catch it in a big city, which can make the commute to the train easier.
The Acela has all business-class seating, very large windows, and is very quiet. There are no rules about standing or walking around.
Quite a few of the seats are configured in facing pairs around a "conference table" which is nice if you're in a small group, or can snag a table to yourself - plenty of space to lay out laptop, newspapers & magazines, and food and drink. The regular seats may be better for pure laptop work, though, since their tables are more like airline tables - they fold down over your lap, which is a bit better positioned for typing.
They also have (sometimes?) a "quiet car" where cellphones and other noisy distractions are forbidden.
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Re:More details on high speed trains
Nobody seems to have mentioned Amtrak's Acela Express trains yet. They're already up and running along several major routes. At just 150 mph this system hasn't got anything on the European high-speed rail, but it's nice to see the US at least taking some interest.
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Re:On the Train Tracks
Wireless on the train has been done, sort of. Amtrak Acela (northeast corridor), Hiawathas (Chicago) and Capitols (SF Bay Area) provide wireless internet access. But only with their computers, not yours.
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Re:Looks good on paper but....
Then what are we supposed to do if we want/need to travel outside the area serviced by this or other public transit systems?
You head over to your local Zipcar and drive there. Or, even better, take one of these little things to the train and then take another little taxi to your destination.
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Re:i think you mean this....
Driver Licensing vs. the Right to Travel
Fallacy! you have the right to travel by whichever means you can afford (like flying, taking the train or riding the dog), or which you have the privilege of using, like driving a car.It is not becaue you painted yourself in a corner (by virtually eliminating public transportation) that you suddenly have the "right" to use a car!!!! Expect to have that "right" pulled from you if you don't exercise it responsibly!!!
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Re:All the news sites are falling over
This is going to cripple the airline industry further.
Joy, great timing for Amtrak to get disolved.
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Amtrak is adding service
not a big surprise, but more trains & cars have been added.
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Re:Hmm...
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Amtrak essentially a government supported company
Let's not forget that Amtrak is essentially owned and operated by the US government. Would you find this all that suprising if you found out that the post office is coordinating with the DEA to stop suspected drug shipments?
Although this does bring up a good point... they're a government entitity, they're subject to Freedom of Information requests. If you really want to know the full scoop on what's happening, just ask. -
Amtrak; Service; Cell PhonesAmtrak is great on certain (fast) corridors: NE Corridor, Chicago-Milwaukee, SF-Sacramento. The new Acela service from DC to Boston is quite nice, though they're not yet using the new cars.
Unfortunately, once you get off the modernized tracks, you're sharing older tracks with freight trains and may find yourself delayed significantly. They're getting much better, but for business travel it really depends.
In a move that the airlines (and the computer biz!) should emulate, they recently introduced an unconditional money-back guarantee. Pretty damn good.
As for cellphones on trains, this doesn't work so well on electric routes (notably the NE Corridor, DC-Boston). I think there's too much interference. Anyone working on always-on net access from trains (which would be so, so nice!) would need to solve this problem before it would work well.
sulli
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Huh?Okay, they list Amtrak as an offender. It just so happens that I need to look up a schedule, so I check it out.
This is what it says on the timetable:
Please press the back button on your browser.
Not quite the "back-button disabled" site top9 makes them out to be. And yet I couldn't view top9's site because I didn't have the right flavor of plug-in.
Who are these guys?
k.
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