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I think the program GP has in mind is Torque (that can read OBD 2 data and do many other things).
iphone lacks the serial port profile for bluetooth so it's quite a sure bet it can't do that.

Odd.

I mean, a quick search through Appshopper brings up many OBD-II reader programs.

Dash Command
Dyno Chart
Rev

and dozens of others (ignoring the ones that don't use an OBD-II reader and are merely databases).

and here are some iOS compatible readers:
Kiwi 2 Wifi
OBD Key.

Yes, most of them use wifi instead of Bluetooth. While iOS does support serial port profile, they don't expose it for whatever reason.

I think the program GP has in mind is Torque (that can read OBD 2 data and do many other things).
iphone lacks the serial port profile for bluetooth so it's quite a sure bet it can't do that.

Odd.

I mean, a quick search through Appshopper brings up many OBD-II reader programs.

Dash Command
Dyno Chart
Rev

and dozens of others (ignoring the ones that don't use an OBD-II reader and are merely databases).

and here are some iOS compatible readers:
Kiwi 2 Wifi
OBD Key.

Yes, most of them use wifi instead of Bluetooth. While iOS does support serial port profile, they don't expose it for whatever reason.

I think the program GP has in mind is Torque (that can read OBD 2 data and do many other things).
iphone lacks the serial port profile for bluetooth so it's quite a sure bet it can't do that.

Odd.

I mean, a quick search through Appshopper brings up many OBD-II reader programs.

Dash Command
Dyno Chart
Rev

and dozens of others (ignoring the ones that don't use an OBD-II reader and are merely databases).

and here are some iOS compatible readers:
Kiwi 2 Wifi
OBD Key.

Yes, most of them use wifi instead of Bluetooth. While iOS does support serial port profile, they don't expose it for whatever reason.

iOS reserves 1.5GB for the system partition, and OS uses 800 MB of that. (see paragraph four)

When the retina iPad was introduced, Pages went from 95MB to 269MB, and Numbers went from 109MB to 283MB.

Keynote currently clocks in at 286MB.

Realistically, that means the OS and productivity suite (if you need the whole thing... most people will have no use for Keynote unless they're actually giving presentations) are taking 2.3GB away from your usable space. That's 14% on a 16GB iPad, 7% on a 32GB, or roughly 4% of a 64GB model.

With Windows NT, the NT stood for New Technology. Perhaps the RT in Windows RT stands for Retaining-water Technology.

I was browsing appshopper.com and found a new third party google maps app today. It doesn't have voice navigation it seems but it does have street view.
http://www.appshopper.com/navigation/mapipo-6-g-maps-street-view-and-navigation

Maybe you should try the stats on iOS rather than just rely on your own biases.

http://appshopper.com/bestsellers/paid

7 of the top 10 paid apps for iPhone are games
4 of the top 10 free apps for iPhone are games

Guess where the money is?

I mean, really?

BASIC

Logo (for iPhone)

Python

No perl, unfortunately. But there's probably more available as well.

I mean, really?

BASIC

Logo (for iPhone)

Python

No perl, unfortunately. But there's probably more available as well.

I mean, really?

BASIC

Logo (for iPhone)

Python

No perl, unfortunately. But there's probably more available as well.

I mean, really?

BASIC

Logo (for iPhone)

Python

No perl, unfortunately. But there's probably more available as well.

I've already lived this with iTunes. I bought iFitness (more here. During an iOS upgrade there was some sort of issue and PC backup turned out to be corrupt and couldn't restore the apps. "No problem," I thought, "I downloaded all of these apps from the store, I can just re-download everything."

Nope, despite being one of the five best fitness apps it was pulled from the market for unknown reasons. Some claim it was banned for posting fake positive reviews, but that seems completely unnecessary considering how much praise iFitness received.

Because of that I no longer trust my phone or the "cloud" to keep my data safe.

Because it's bundled into a simple-to-use package that will have free lifetime updates and comes with all the benefits of surfing on iOS?

I'm satisfied with Atomic & Knowtilus, each of which I got on sale for 99 cents a while back. Use appshopper to find deals.

We're all stupid at something no matter how much knowledge and experience we acquire. (In fact, it's a well known adage that smart people are the most likely to fall for a scam".)

Not only that, there are some pretty remarkable apps out there.

Magic Mover, an app that vibrates the phone in a particular way to push stuff around. Or just have the phone move in a particular direction, just like in the old days where you could design a series of disk accesses to "walk" the disk drive across the floor.

Blower - real air plays a specially modulated sound that moves air around.

With strange and wonderful apps like that, it's easy to see how some other apps can proclaim to cure acne or other things.

We're all stupid at something no matter how much knowledge and experience we acquire. (In fact, it's a well known adage that smart people are the most likely to fall for a scam".)

Not only that, there are some pretty remarkable apps out there.

Magic Mover, an app that vibrates the phone in a particular way to push stuff around. Or just have the phone move in a particular direction, just like in the old days where you could design a series of disk accesses to "walk" the disk drive across the floor.

Blower - real air plays a specially modulated sound that moves air around.

With strange and wonderful apps like that, it's easy to see how some other apps can proclaim to cure acne or other things.

You, sir, may have a "friend", but he is *not* stuffing iPads with whatever for Air Force flight crews, at least not for official use. For the USAF, it is *not* an approved device. In fact, there are *no* Apple devices that are approved to be connected to to our network (at least NIPR or SIPRNET), so it would not be possible to update the device - flight pubs, nav databases, and Jeppesen products are updated quite often, almost monthly. Not to mention the aircraft TOs and FCIFs. Currently, the only portable computers we use for pubs are Panasonic ToughBooks.

Have you considered that the iPads may be running regular consumer level apps? The number of pilot assistance apps is huge on iOS. Jeppesen's got a few iPad apps - Jeppsen Mobile FD and Jeppesen Mobile TC. Plus a half dozen other companies are making EFB-style apps.

Electronic charts, airport diagrams, etc. The apps already are there on iPad for consumer use.

Flight manuals and docs? PDFs and a suitable reader. Even iBooks would work.

You, sir, may have a "friend", but he is *not* stuffing iPads with whatever for Air Force flight crews, at least not for official use. For the USAF, it is *not* an approved device. In fact, there are *no* Apple devices that are approved to be connected to to our network (at least NIPR or SIPRNET), so it would not be possible to update the device - flight pubs, nav databases, and Jeppesen products are updated quite often, almost monthly. Not to mention the aircraft TOs and FCIFs. Currently, the only portable computers we use for pubs are Panasonic ToughBooks.

Have you considered that the iPads may be running regular consumer level apps? The number of pilot assistance apps is huge on iOS. Jeppesen's got a few iPad apps - Jeppsen Mobile FD and Jeppesen Mobile TC. Plus a half dozen other companies are making EFB-style apps.

Electronic charts, airport diagrams, etc. The apps already are there on iPad for consumer use.

Flight manuals and docs? PDFs and a suitable reader. Even iBooks would work.

Yeah, let's pretend "there's an app for that" solves every problem. Let's pretend we're talking about plug-ins that execute arbitrary code ... no wait, let's be honest: we're talking about codec support. Fact of the matter is, native support for free codecs is impossible to implement on iOS. I repeat: you're a dishonest bunch.

Funny how non-free codec players exist in the App Store. A quick search brings up a list of Xvid players (with MKV support, too), WMV, MPEG2, amongst other codecs.

This app seems to support webm as well...

http://appshopper.com/travel/azul-media-player-your-password-protected-way-to-watch-and-store-movies-on-your-ipad
http://appshopper.com/travel/azul-media-player-your-password-protected-way-to-watch-and-store-movies-on-your-iphone

Heck, there's webm encoders as well

Sure it's not "native" in that other apps can make use of it or it plugs into QuickTime directly, but that's more of a security architecture issue than anything else. Apps loading 3rd party plugins has traditionally been a rather huge security hole...

Yeah, let's pretend "there's an app for that" solves every problem. Let's pretend we're talking about plug-ins that execute arbitrary code ... no wait, let's be honest: we're talking about codec support. Fact of the matter is, native support for free codecs is impossible to implement on iOS. I repeat: you're a dishonest bunch.

Funny how non-free codec players exist in the App Store. A quick search brings up a list of Xvid players (with MKV support, too), WMV, MPEG2, amongst other codecs.

This app seems to support webm as well...

http://appshopper.com/travel/azul-media-player-your-password-protected-way-to-watch-and-store-movies-on-your-ipad
http://appshopper.com/travel/azul-media-player-your-password-protected-way-to-watch-and-store-movies-on-your-iphone

Heck, there's webm encoders as well

Sure it's not "native" in that other apps can make use of it or it plugs into QuickTime directly, but that's more of a security architecture issue than anything else. Apps loading 3rd party plugins has traditionally been a rather huge security hole...

Users were allowed to program the Osborne - it had a built-in programming language interpreter. iPad? Verboten.

*WAS* verboten. Apple recanted, which is why Adobe's Flash to iOS compiler is back on the table, game devs can embed Lua without worrying about a thing, Python interpreters, and even a BASIC interpreter.

Users were allowed to program the Osborne - it had a built-in programming language interpreter. iPad? Verboten.

*WAS* verboten. Apple recanted, which is why Adobe's Flash to iOS compiler is back on the table, game devs can embed Lua without worrying about a thing, Python interpreters, and even a BASIC interpreter.

The review process is not there to do anything of the sort. The review process is to make a reasonable attempt to ensure that the application doesn't do anything harmful and that it follows all of the programming and content related guidelines set forth by Apple. The review process makes no claims that it will prevent similar apps from appearing or that the apps are actually good.

Nope, The approval process has no other purpose but to deny apps Apple doesn't like.

Native apps w/o source code are next to impossible to review aside from using a full code path coverage tool. A tool could be used to ensure all code paths are tested during approval process, but clearly Apple isn't doing this or else 15 year olds wouldn't be able to sneak tethering into a flash-light app.

If tethering can slip through unnoticed, why not malware? WHAT'S THE POINT?

Malware could easily slip through unnoticed. The quick scan of the binary that Apple does detects what is linked against and if they link to anything that allows them to leave the sandbox or do anything other than use the Apple sanctioned APIs then it's detected and not approved. Thus what the malware could do is significantly limited. Tethering isn't actually doing anything malicious (what that app did was actually make a web proxy that could be accessed and used, all with available and approved APIs) and is actually not allowed for contractual reasons with the carriers. Similarly it would be entirely possible to sneak a link to a pornography site in an application, despite pornography not being allowed.

The review process is not there to do anything of the sort. The review process is to make a reasonable attempt to ensure that the application doesn't do anything harmful and that it follows all of the programming and content related guidelines set forth by Apple. The review process makes no claims that it will prevent similar apps from appearing or that the apps are actually good.

Nope, The approval process has no other purpose but to deny apps Apple doesn't like.

Native apps w/o source code are next to impossible to review aside from using a full code path coverage tool. A tool could be used to ensure all code paths are tested during approval process, but clearly Apple isn't doing this or else 15 year olds wouldn't be able to sneak tethering into a flash-light app.

If tethering can slip through unnoticed, why not malware? WHAT'S THE POINT?

Yea, because we all know Apple wouldn't let that happen. (but don't worry, they do not associate it with you - they just associate it with the co-ordinates of where you live and work so it is totally anonymous).

Face it, your phone is a little general purpose computer that happens to have the ability to talk to cell networks. Treat it as such and you will be happy, pretend it isn't and you are going to get bit. If developers have access to that information, the ability to transmit it anywhere, and it is really difficult to track if they are doing that then I can assure you that it occurs VERY often. Apple isn't remotely immune to it, their app approval process doesn't include inspecting source code. If this can make it through then you can be sure gathering GPS data and sending it over a socket can occur and does.

All Apple does is give you a false sense of security.

you can't get google maps on iOS because there's already a built-in maps app. it doesn't matter if the google maps app used the underlying iOS map services, it's that the google maps app duplicates the stock map app's functionality.

First, the "stock map app" itself uses Google Maps. Don't believe me? Look at the five-letter word at the lower left corner of the map screen here. That's why there is no Google Maps for iPhone, the Maps application itself is (at this time) Google maps.

But more to the point: How do you explain iPhone apps like MapQuest, Waze, and others, including those from GPS manufacturers, each of which provide their own mapping and driving directions technologies, clearly competing with the built-in maps app?

you can't get google maps on iOS because there's already a built-in maps app. it doesn't matter if the google maps app used the underlying iOS map services, it's that the google maps app duplicates the stock map app's functionality.

First, the "stock map app" itself uses Google Maps. Don't believe me? Look at the five-letter word at the lower left corner of the map screen here. That's why there is no Google Maps for iPhone, the Maps application itself is (at this time) Google maps.

But more to the point: How do you explain iPhone apps like MapQuest, Waze, and others, including those from GPS manufacturers, each of which provide their own mapping and driving directions technologies, clearly competing with the built-in maps app?

you can't get google maps on iOS because there's already a built-in maps app. it doesn't matter if the google maps app used the underlying iOS map services, it's that the google maps app duplicates the stock map app's functionality.

First, the "stock map app" itself uses Google Maps. Don't believe me? Look at the five-letter word at the lower left corner of the map screen here. That's why there is no Google Maps for iPhone, the Maps application itself is (at this time) Google maps.

But more to the point: How do you explain iPhone apps like MapQuest, Waze, and others, including those from GPS manufacturers, each of which provide their own mapping and driving directions technologies, clearly competing with the built-in maps app?

Every time I see some stupid fucking douchebag barking into his cellphone, or some giggle brained bleeth yammering into her iPhone, I curse the gods for not letting me be able to fire rockets or RPGs at those stupid fucks as they blunder their way down the highway and endangering the lives of the rest of us with their inattention and sense of entitlement.

There's an app for that.

"It sounds to me like Google lost alot of good will with such a high unsubsidized price."

They lost me. After many, many stories about free google cell phones supported by ads how can anyone not be disappointed by the $500 price?

I really don't see how Google thinks they'll sell any. $500+ is a huge bite, and $180 puts it in competition with $199 iPhone 3GS, so if you're deciding between the iPhone and Nexus price really isn't a factor. Couple that with 126,000+ iPhone apps vs 20,000 Android apps and the fact many Android apps don't run on lower-end Android phones doesn't inspire someone to purchase a Android phone.

Google seems to be shooting themselves in the foot, it would take a phone with lots of developer support to topple the iPhone. Only way to get developers is to show them the $$$$ like the iPhone does. Google needs to get the developers paid and make them millionaires like the iPhone does

Some more links on MacRumors:
"T-Mobile in Germany, however, threatened that it may take action to prevent its customers from using Skype on the iPhone. [...] Skype has proven to be massively popular on the iPhone and iPod Touch reaching over one million downloads in the first two days of availability."

From http://appshopper.com/utilities/incognito Incognito is an anonymous web browser for the iPhone and iPod touch. Now you can browse without leaving a history of any kind. Simply close the browser, and Incognito will erase the entire session!
Now you will no longer have to clear Mobile Safari's history just to hide a single entry, which rendered the URL auto-completion useless!

Are they kidding? Deleting browser and URL history might be as leaving less traces on that device, BUT for me, browsing anonymously means something like TOR...