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Re:I'll believe it when I see it...
Unlikely.... Checkout the current tallest "wooden building" in the world under construction...
https://www.archdaily.com/8796...
What do you see? Two huge cement columns running down the middle of it.
I think the real question is how moral is it to use such materials, in a day and age when so much of our native habitat has already been lost and the remaining habitat is being rapidly cleared?
Even if the wood is sustainably sourced, which it probably won't be, creating a fashion like this encourages others to do the same. I mean can't argue with an architect using wood to build something like this....
https://stroiinfo.com/wp-conte...
but creating boring tall boxes out of wood? Seriously there must be better uses for such a precious commodity
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Re:Doom and Gloom?
You're absolutely right. There are also other ways to ensure the air quality improves, for example World's Largest Air Purifier in Xian, China in which technology can improve life for everyone. Article mentions it's not perfect but that's what a trial run is for right?
The idea where the trees can benefit would be nature itself. By creating a forest, you also create a habitat for a slew of organisms that will take up residence in the forests. With natural habitats always being constantly taken over by human activity, the idea that this has more added benefits than just cleaning up air, incidentally something no one here has mentioned.
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Re:Flamebait
What's supposed to happen in the comments here, mods? I'll start: Define good.
This is a very good question and you do not deserve the downmods. Although the answer is very clear and well documented it's very much widely unknown and even more widely ignored.
Key elements of "good" industrial design would include (in approximate order of priority):
- supports the owner of the product in effectively using the product for the things the product is aimed at
- supports the product engineers in delivering an environmental, cheap to manufacture, long lasting and safe product
- supports the marketing of the product by signalling effectively the high quality of the product and it's key valuable features
There are many web pages, such as this one giving 10 principles of good design which can help you learn more.
Good design often involves many compromises, however one of the crucial things that it should involve is identifying which compromises you shouldn't make. During the time of Steve Jobs there were many apple products that weren't released because they couldn't fix some problem with the technology available. The ugly layout of the iphone X is probably an example of this. They should have waited another five years for smaller facial sensors which could be put properly on the edge of the screen with only a minimal loss of screen space or they should have waited for a technology to do infra-red sensing through the existing screen. As it is, the design compromise is a) ugly and b) make using many apps more difficult. Probably that's an example of a design compromise which Apple would not have made in the past.
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Re:Plumbing!
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Re:Smoking Crack
So dude who redesigned and saw to completion the world's largest church couldn't pull a patent like http://www.archdaily.com/197061/architectural-patents-on-what-grounds/ ?
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Re:No Windows
I'd love to work in an office without Windows.
:rimshot:But if I'm reading the design sketches correctly, many of the offices in this structure will have windows. It will have an inverted-pyramid-shape "courtyard" down the middle of it, which will take up much of the volume and allow for plenty of windows.
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Re:Fake photos?
Actually, the point I was trying to get across was that these photos are documented, real photos. Granted they are staged publicity shots for the data center owners. The originals with high res TIF versions are avialable here. This means that although they are the real facility, they are using lighting effects and such that are not present during normal operation.
That said, more realistic photos can be seen Here -
Re:Yes. Here's a bad example.
Hey! The Cone of Silence was a required deliverable insisted on by management, okay?
Some of those pictures are renders, and some are real. It turns out that the suspended transparent bubble was deleted before actual construction, along with the oval lighting rings and the curved-glass viewing galleries. Those are renders. The ones with conventional lighting on the ceiling are real, including the fancy podium. In this picture, the PCs, which look like conventional mini-towers, and their cables are in place.
So it's really a big, square mostly-empty room, with a bunch of Barco rear-projection monitors in front, and a fancy podium that cost US$90,000. The architect writes "this is main room in large building of company, which controls all electricity in Moscow. In this room 6 people working 24/7. Working group will not expand, but space is needed for groups of high ranked visitors."
That might actually be a reasonable design, given that problem. I can see the chief operator saying to the architect "Put enough empty space behind us so that when the oligarchs come to visit, they don't get in the way. Don't give them any chairs, or they'll hang around and muck things up. Put a VIP lounge somewhere else in the building, with the booze and the girls. Stick a few screens in there to repeat the big board, so they think they're running things."
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Yes. Here's a bad example.
Here's an example of just that - the new Moesk control center for Moscow's electric network.
Take a look at the pictures. This looks like a movie set for a Bond movie. The architects got completely out of control here.
Notice the suspended transparent bubble for top management. It looks like it retracts into the ceiling. The lower operator's platform has steeply slanted sides, no railings, and chairs with wheels. The huge room only has eight operator positions.
I'll bet that, within a year or two, the people who actually have to run the grid set up a "field control center" with about twenty people with PCs, cork boards on the walls, 2-way radios for talking to field crews, a conference/map table, and some printers. The real work will be done there. A few people will sit in the big room and answer questions for management.
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Yes. Here's a bad example.
Here's an example of just that - the new Moesk control center for Moscow's electric network.
Take a look at the pictures. This looks like a movie set for a Bond movie. The architects got completely out of control here.
Notice the suspended transparent bubble for top management. It looks like it retracts into the ceiling. The lower operator's platform has steeply slanted sides, no railings, and chairs with wheels. The huge room only has eight operator positions.
I'll bet that, within a year or two, the people who actually have to run the grid set up a "field control center" with about twenty people with PCs, cork boards on the walls, 2-way radios for talking to field crews, a conference/map table, and some printers. The real work will be done there. A few people will sit in the big room and answer questions for management.