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Bodhi still offers a non-PAE "legacy" version. If you don't like the Moksha (E17) desktop, install LXDE on it you'll have something very like Lubuntu: http://www.bodhilinux.com/w/selecting-the-correct-iso-image/

Bodhi Linux http://www.bodhilinux.com/
Read about the ISO images.
http://www.bodhilinux.com/w/se...
A 64bit operating system is supported.
Need a 32bit release with no PAE extension?
Thats supported with the Legacy 32bit release.

Bodhi Linux http://www.bodhilinux.com/
Read about the ISO images.
http://www.bodhilinux.com/w/se...
A 64bit operating system is supported.
Need a 32bit release with no PAE extension?
Thats supported with the Legacy 32bit release.

If you need XP grade OS on the older hardware consider an 32bit non PAE linux options like http://www.bodhilinux.com/
http://www.bodhilinux.com/w/se...

If you need XP grade OS on the older hardware consider an 32bit non PAE linux options like http://www.bodhilinux.com/
http://www.bodhilinux.com/w/se...

Bodhi Linux www.bodhilinux.com has a few options for legacy and modern hardware support with no Systemd (Ubuntu 14.04) iirc.
http://www.bodhilinux.com/down... and the info on the images http://www.bodhilinux.com/w/se...

Bodhi Linux www.bodhilinux.com has a few options for legacy and modern hardware support with no Systemd (Ubuntu 14.04) iirc.
http://www.bodhilinux.com/down... and the info on the images http://www.bodhilinux.com/w/se...

Yes Linux is looking great to escape the phone home, collect it all OS's. Even for the older non PAE hardware http://www.bodhilinux.com/w/se...

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Or you could just try Bodhi.

You're clearly not already running e17 from that list of dependencies... your complaint is akin to somebody complaining that installing kopete on their gnome system pulls in a ton of unneeded deps.

From a system that's already running e17:

tara@MarchHare:~$ sudo apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
tara@MarchHare:~$ sudo apt-get install terminology
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
    terminology
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 839 kB of archives.
After this operation, 3,118 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://packages.bodhilinux.com/bodhi/ precise/stable terminology amd64 20130326-1 [839 kB]
Fetched 839 kB in 1s (480 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package terminology.
(Reading database ... 279968 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking terminology (from .../terminology_20130326-1_amd64.deb) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Setting up terminology (20130326-1) ...

'nuf said?

If you wanted Ubuntu with E17, the natural choice would be Bodhi Linux, which is the actual E17 flavor.

http://www.bodhilinux.com/

http://bodhilinux.com/

The lead dev is on xmas vacation at the moment, but Bodhi 2.2.0 is expected to be released before the new year, and it will come with this release. The current release has an earlier dev release, but it is still very stable and functional. I've been using it on my main system for more than a year.

I thought Bodhi Linux was already using E17? Was that a pre-release? Does anyone know when Bodhi Linux will get this new release? I'm curious because I'm about to install the new version of Bodhi, and I don't want to install it and then have to re-install it with the newest version in just a couple of weeks.

And, yes, it looked like the distant future, but out of a cheesy eighties movie.

Before anyone takes this knuckle dragger too seriously have a look at how beautiful E really is.

Give the http://www.bodhilinux.com/ LiveCD a spin to see what it can do... I love the aesthetic (esp. the zenlike Japanese theme ... hard to get any more ricer than that!). Unfortunately, like KNOPPIX LiveCD is a great showcase of KDE , it's not so smooth getting it running on a standard Debian- or Fedora- based distro without some finagling.

I know this isn't what you meant, but you appear to be conflating two different things. Let me clear this up. Yes, compiling/configuring E on pretty much any distro can be a pain.

NO, absolutely not is this true of installing and setting up Bodhi Linux. Installing and using Bodhi is a breeze. And they have the most welcoming community I've ever come across (take a look at my UID and realize I've never browsed /. on anything but Linux to put that in perspective)

Give the http://www.bodhilinux.com/ LiveCD a spin to see what it can do... I love the aesthetic (esp. the zenlike Japanese theme ... hard to get any more ricer than that!). Unfortunately, like KNOPPIX LiveCD is a great showcase of KDE , it's not so smooth getting it running on a standard Debian- or Fedora- based distro without some finagling.

I know this isn't what you meant, but you appear to be conflating two different things. Let me clear this up. Yes, compiling/configuring E on pretty much any distro can be a pain.

NO, absolutely not is this true of installing and setting up Bodhi Linux. Installing and using Bodhi is a breeze. And they have the most welcoming community I've ever come across (take a look at my UID and realize I've never browsed /. on anything but Linux to put that in perspective)

I think Enlightenment is one of the nicest "alternative" desktops. Too bad it always seems to be one of the "alternative" ones instead of a default. It works very well with GNOME. Unfortunately I spent a bit too much time getting my "Enlightenome" environment set up, but it would make a slick default if more distros provided it.

Give the http://www.bodhilinux.com/ LiveCD a spin to see what it can do... I love the aesthetic (esp. the zenlike Japanese theme ... hard to get any more ricer than that!). Unfortunately, like KNOPPIX LiveCD is a great showcase of KDE , it's not so smooth getting it running on a standard Debian- or Fedora- based distro without some finagling.

Unfortunately my computing time these days is too centered on playing games under Windows. Hopefully this will change once Steam for Linux goes live... the irony was that Left4Dead was pretty much the game that got me to dual boot Windows again. But I look forward to setting up a nice Enlightenment desktop again.

Try the to look at the screenshots at http://www.bodhilinux.com/about_dotw.php ,those are actually screenshots of real users screens.

Bodhi Linux (the best E17 implementation IMHO) has a short video on their site: http://www.bodhilinux.com/

Bodhi Linux uses E WM

I tried Bodhi Linux a few versions back and while the experience was somewhat pleasing, I found several bugs and gave up. I may try a newer version in the future.

"Bodhi Linux is an Ubuntu-based distribution for the desktop featuring the elegant and lightweight Enlightenment window manager. The project, which integrates and pre-configures the very latest builds of Enlightenment directly from the project's development repository, offers modularity, high level of customisation, and choice of themes. The default Bodhi system is light -- the only pre-installed applications are Midori, LXTerminal, PCManFM, Leafpad and Synaptic -- but more software is available via Bodhi Software Center, a web-based software installation tool."

http://distrowatch.com/bodhi
http://www.bodhilinux.com/
http://forums.bodhilinux.com/
http://wiki.bodhilinux.com/
http://www.bodhilinux.com/gallerydotw.php
http://www.chrishaney.com/?linux&distro=bodhi
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bodhilinux/files/

Bodhi Linux uses E WM

I tried Bodhi Linux a few versions back and while the experience was somewhat pleasing, I found several bugs and gave up. I may try a newer version in the future.

"Bodhi Linux is an Ubuntu-based distribution for the desktop featuring the elegant and lightweight Enlightenment window manager. The project, which integrates and pre-configures the very latest builds of Enlightenment directly from the project's development repository, offers modularity, high level of customisation, and choice of themes. The default Bodhi system is light -- the only pre-installed applications are Midori, LXTerminal, PCManFM, Leafpad and Synaptic -- but more software is available via Bodhi Software Center, a web-based software installation tool."

http://distrowatch.com/bodhi
http://www.bodhilinux.com/
http://forums.bodhilinux.com/
http://wiki.bodhilinux.com/
http://www.bodhilinux.com/gallerydotw.php
http://www.chrishaney.com/?linux&distro=bodhi
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bodhilinux/files/

Bodhi Linux uses E WM

I tried Bodhi Linux a few versions back and while the experience was somewhat pleasing, I found several bugs and gave up. I may try a newer version in the future.

"Bodhi Linux is an Ubuntu-based distribution for the desktop featuring the elegant and lightweight Enlightenment window manager. The project, which integrates and pre-configures the very latest builds of Enlightenment directly from the project's development repository, offers modularity, high level of customisation, and choice of themes. The default Bodhi system is light -- the only pre-installed applications are Midori, LXTerminal, PCManFM, Leafpad and Synaptic -- but more software is available via Bodhi Software Center, a web-based software installation tool."

http://distrowatch.com/bodhi
http://www.bodhilinux.com/
http://forums.bodhilinux.com/
http://wiki.bodhilinux.com/
http://www.bodhilinux.com/gallerydotw.php
http://www.chrishaney.com/?linux&distro=bodhi
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bodhilinux/files/

Bodhi Linux uses E WM

I tried Bodhi Linux a few versions back and while the experience was somewhat pleasing, I found several bugs and gave up. I may try a newer version in the future.

"Bodhi Linux is an Ubuntu-based distribution for the desktop featuring the elegant and lightweight Enlightenment window manager. The project, which integrates and pre-configures the very latest builds of Enlightenment directly from the project's development repository, offers modularity, high level of customisation, and choice of themes. The default Bodhi system is light -- the only pre-installed applications are Midori, LXTerminal, PCManFM, Leafpad and Synaptic -- but more software is available via Bodhi Software Center, a web-based software installation tool."

http://distrowatch.com/bodhi
http://www.bodhilinux.com/
http://forums.bodhilinux.com/
http://wiki.bodhilinux.com/
http://www.bodhilinux.com/gallerydotw.php
http://www.chrishaney.com/?linux&distro=bodhi
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bodhilinux/files/

Anyone who wonders if it's going to be a dud, needs to get over to http://www.bodhilinux.com/ immediately to check out a distro that showcases E17 beautifully (it's Ubuntu underneath). I had some issues on a 64bit desktop but it runs wonderfully on my Core Duo netbook, and it's fast.

Likes: gorgeous, responsive desktop, fast, low memory usage, and it's easy to bend it into whatever shape you like. It offers a pretty standard desktop for anybody sick of Unity/Gnome3 but you can also have some radical interfaces too, like a tiling interface that looks like it would work great on a tablet (in fact I wish I had a Linux tablet I could try it on but am scared to nuke my Google Nexus 7 trying it). The "run anything" gizmo - kind of like Alt-F2 - is fantastic; I think it works better than Gnome_Do and Krunner and even Apple's Quicksilver (which is damned good). Their Terminology terminal is pretty sweet; I increasingly spend 90% of my linux day in it.

Dislikes: it takes a bit of getting used to, and the distinction between modules, shelves, modes, and extensions has taken some time to figure out. My version of E7 (Bodhi 2.0.0) also occasionally segfaults, so there must be some remaining bugs to work out.

But this netbook came with Ubuntu/Gnome and I find Bodhi running E17 to be a huge improvement. I love it. If you want to see what E17 is like, what it does, and what it *can* do, there's no better way to start.

Bodhi would be the (unofficial) Enlightenment variant - I use it myself and in terms of looks and memory/CPU usage beats all the major DEs handily.

http://www.bodhilinux.com/

http://bodhilinux.com/

Though Ubuntu should be able to live boot on it... I don't want to start *that* argument (personally I loathe all the crap that gets loaded with Ubuntu by default), but it's a good launch point for somebody who's new to Linux.

If you need something lighter, you can try Damn Small Linux or Puppy Linux.

... i think there is a group working on super-deb's which is a deb package with the main app plus all dependencies.

Bodhi Linux already has this kind of thing in their .bod packages. Worth a look.

Parent post made me think of this

Instead of trying to teach new users a particular distro (or 3), teach them:

1) How to download and burn/create a bootable ISO of a Linux distro (maybe use netbootin?).
2) How to boot their machine from the LiveCD/DVD/thumbdrive they've created.
3) And then encourage them to try 2 or 3 distros out to find their own best "fit".

One advantage of this is that some distros will natively support 'X' hardware that another may not.

And one distro I haven't seen yet mentioned, that I like as a lightweight, minimalist solution which a new user shouldn't find daunting: Bodhi.

Try Bodhi Linux... they're a minimalist Ubu derivative, and e17 is the only officially supported DE. It's based on LTS, so as of this writing, some of the stuff might be a little outdated, but they maintain their own versions of a *lot* of software, in their own repos, so it is mostly up to date (and it's pretty much on the bleeding edge when it comes to E builds, with a new one usually every couple of weeks... the lead developer is very much in contact with the e17 developers, and is keeping it up to date). It still ties in to Ubuntu's repos, though, so anything that's in Ubu's repos will work on Bodhi, too, and they have software packs available for anybody who wants to have the "everything including the kitchen sink" set up that Ubuntu seems to prefer in their distro.

http://bodhilinux.com/

Didn't people see this coming? Google chose Apache 2.0 for their reasons and goals for Android

http://source.android.com/source/licenses.html

"We've simply decided that ASL2.0 is the right license for our goals."

The tablet bubble is already bursting but maybe bodhilinux or similar will be used for some future consumer applicances to avoid these probelms?
http://bodhilinux.com/

The reason is most distributions base themselves around a GUI and E17 is a window manager not a GUI. But...

http://bodhilinux.com/
http://www.moonos.org/ (DR17 version)
http://opengeu.intilinux.com/
http://shr-project.org/trac
etc...

im shopping around for something else.

Try Bodhi.

It's based (loosely) on 10.04, with numerous packages backported from later releases, as well as their own packages, with a semi-rolling release model. And they're using e17 for the DE, which is hugely customizable and can be made to behave like KDE, or Gnome2, or whatever else you want it to. Right now, I have a setup that's *kind* of like NeXTSTEP was, but still very different... hard to describe. But basically, you can make it like anything you want it to be. It uses very little memory, too... I've seen e17 take up less than 40MB of RAM, with compositing enabled.

I got around this on my Lenovo u460 by disabling the switchable graphics in the BIOS. Happily running NVidia drivers in Bodhi Linux now.

Hope that helps.

cheers

I started out with Linux back at the 0.99 release time. I've been using it ever since, until after the updates for Gnome and KDE sucked.
It's pretty bad when someone that hates Windows actually purchases a oem version and installs it on a new build. Honestly I don't know what the hell they were thinking when they did all this UI fubar.
 
Thankfully Bodhi Linux http://www.bodhilinux.com/ came around. It's still a bit rough around the edges, but I can live with it. E17 based, and just a user that is happy.

http://bodhilinux.com/

Minimalist. Can be full-featured, that stuff is available, but at its core, it gives you a desktop, an internet connection, and a browser. You will need to add Flash, because it's non-free, but it may be what you're looking for. :)

Might have to try out Enlightenment again, or xfce. i dunno.

Then you'll almost certainly want to have a look at Bodhi Linux