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Where are people going if they don't want to use Amazon anymore?

Exactly what I was thinking. When I've ordered from Amazon it's because doing so has saved me money compared to buying somewhere else. I was going to say I could order books from Bookpool but it's now part of Amazon. There are Barnes and Noble as well as Borders but Amazon is cheaper and being on disability I need to watch my money.

Falcon

BTW, you know that GIMP's "niche printing issues" would almost never bother a photographer, right?

Other than GIMP not being capable of more than 8 bits per colour channel, I don't know or recall about GIMP's "niche printing issues".

I really want to try CinePaint but I haven't found an online tutorial on using it, even CinePaint's online tutorial does not say how to use it. And unlike GIMP for which there are books, including the one being reviewed here, I haven't been able to find one for CinePaint. If you search Amazon books you get some results for it but they are about Linux and only mention CinePaint. Bookpool shows none. Searching Google for cinepiant books shows books on GIMP but not CinePaint.

Falcon

I have always had the noise & heat from multiple computers and a stack of devices humming around my desk. Just recently I moved from the city to the country where I have for the first time a real house with a real garage. After running cat6 from several rooms to the garage, I have been able to consolidate most of the equipment there (CATVmodem, router, switch, wireless AP, VoIP devices, printer & fileserver) and was thrilled to move everything away from the rooms I spend my time in. I have generally believed that all hardware will be happier in colder environments (the garage is not insulated), however we have been having an unusually cold winter for this area (down to freezing a few times) and I'm second guessing my decision. According to the red book (now purple), "The ideal operating temperature for computer equipment is 64 to 68 degrees Fahrenheit, with about 45% humidity". I'm wondering about Slashdot reader's experiences with home 'datacenters' regarding environment and any best practices."

http://www.bookpool.com/sm/0201615630

pretty strange -I never did figure out how much it would help with Java but I did try to read it.

http://www.mrbunny.com/

Apparently he also did a book on ActiveX -an appropriate subject for twisted or obtuse humor as I think that was the spirit in which it was created.

I'm just sayin'

I noticed Richard Bennett does not address a couple of things that concerns people who push for net neutrality laws, the throttling of of traffic from some websites but not others even though they the same type of files, such as with political websites or commercial websites. Say a PHB at cableco X doesn't like Daily Kos so s/he has it slowed down whereas PHB at cableco Y doesn't like Free Republic so that company slows it down. With commercial websites cableco X goes into partnership with Amazon and so slows connections to bookpool. The only difference between these websites are the originators, they are in competition with each other.

• How Linux Works
• Running Linux
• Beginning Linux Programming

• How Linux Works
• Running Linux
• Beginning Linux Programming

• How Linux Works
• Running Linux
• Beginning Linux Programming

You can get it at amazon for $23.09 (eligible for free shipping if you go over $25). (That is an associates link - if that bothers you, don't click it. If history holds true there will be a non-associates link available right quick if not already)
 
It has received very high reviews there. (bookpool has it for about 59 cents less - though you do have to buy more to get free shipping - that one is not any kind of associates link or anything-- just giving some options.)

Bookpool.com has it even cheaper! ($35.50)
http://www.bookpool.com/ss?qs=Configuring+IPCop+Fi rewalls&x=59&y=15

$35.50
Bookpool: Configuring IPCop Firewalls: Closing Borders with Open Source
http://www.bookpool.com/sm/1904811361

$39.99
Amazon.com: Configuring IPCop Firewalls: Closing Borders with Open Source: Books: Barrie, Dempster,James, Eaton-Lee
http://www.amazon.com/Configuring-IPCop-Firewalls- Closing-Borders/dp/1904811361

$41.99
Buy.com - Configuring Ipcop Firewalls: Closing Borders with Open Source : Barrie Dempster : ISBN 1904811361
http://www.buy.com/prod/configuring-ipcop-firewall s-closing-borders-with-open-source/q/loc/106/20330 4392.html

If you're in the UK you get a huge 0% discount at TheReg:

1904811361/9781904811367: Configuring IPCop Firewalls: Closing Borders with Open Source :: The Register Books - The IT and Computer Book specialists
RRP £24.99 Save 0%
Our Price £24.99
http://books.theregister.co.uk/static/live/805529. htm

Several years ago I gave up on Amazon due to their business practices. Since then I've switch to

http://www.bookpool.com/

and have always received great prices and service when buying books online from them.

Cheers!

And Bookpool.com (my preferred retailer of technical books) has it cheaper still. And look, it's yet another "it's cheaper on Amazon.com" post.

Seriously, anyone who reads Slashdot knows that they link to B&N, period. As I recall, I think that Rob actually posted about that specific topic a couple a years ago. I don't remember why they do, unless it has to do with earning commission off of it for the referral (which they do, but Amazon.com offers a similar Associates program

Meanwhile, don't worry, really. The Slashdot crowd is (in general) pretty smart, and we all know how to shop around for the best price.

Speaking of "willing to buy the book", Slashdot links to B & N here, but Amazon has it cheaper (look at the "Used and new..." 3rd party sellers), and I'm sure there are other sites that are also cheaper. Why does Slashdot keep linking to B & N all the time? Even if their reviews make a book seem great, the relatively high prices they link to aren't very attractive.

As was pointed out to me very recently, Amazon.com gives more money to the Republican party and B&N only gives money to the Democrat party. Maybe it doesn't matter to you, in which case feel free to buy it wherever. And maybe that's not the reason Rob picked B&N instead of Amazon.com, I don't know. But it does matter to me, so I personally like the B&N links better.

Or if you're looking for the best price on a new copy from a well-known and reputable online retailer, get it from Bookpool.com instead. (It's only $21.95 there.)

http://www.bookpool.com/sm/0131872494"

It's even cheaper here.

That's the beauty of e-commerce on the Internets - protection from getting gouged.

Sure, the inventory's huge, but Amazon is cumbersome to browse. More and more of their listings are obsolete and no longer stocked, and too many are just listings for 3rd-party sellers. Amazon's prices aren't that great, and the customer feedback is actually more limited than what some other sites offer. Customer support is bureaucratic too.

In the brick and mortar world, a big department store can beat small specialty stores because one-stop shopping really saves time. But it doesn't take long to hop from one website to another. If Amazon's corporate goal is still growth through diversification, it could become a dinosaur and lose business to more-narrowly focused competitors, which often sell at lower prices (e.g. Bookpool) and are easier to shop (e.g. Newegg).

When you concentrate your efforts on patenting "one-click sale" and other similar "innovations", the core business suffers. That's why I never shop at Amazon, even if the price is OK which, by the way, practically never happens lately.

For tech books, see BookPool

Bookpool is the cheapest

Yet again Slashdot links to BN.com for kickbacks when Amazon has it cheaper.

bookpool has it cheaper than amazon.

I was recently looking through Amazon for SQL books, and picked out 5 to get. I stumbled acress bookpool by accident, but the prices were so much lower than Amazon, that I could get overnight shipping and still save $20 .

As for why they are more expensive than, say, the latest Xanth novel or Pilates workout book, others have already said. Fewer buyers to pay for the writer's (and publishers) income.

I know it doesn't give you the instant satisfaction, but this place has good prices.

http://www.bookpool.com/

I don't work there.

How much less support will you get if we hit AddAll or BookPool [1] and get the book+shipping for the price of Amazon?

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[1] Although it's out of stock at BookPool.

Check it out

I can't believe that in all this discussion no one has even mentioned the site "Book Pool" http://www.bookpool.com/ . This site is one of the most extensive places to purchase any computer books. I'd highly sugest browsing around there if you want to buy new books for a geek.

I ordered it recently from Bookpool.com and although they claim that it's out of stock, I still ordered it and recevied it not too long after. Otherwise, if you'd rather get it a little sooner, try out Amazon.

Also, a very interesting resource is available through Pragmatic Programmer, a beta book which means you can get PDF updates as they are written until it is shipped in hard copy in Feb. 2006. Already a book of 160+ pages, they already had a section on creating your own version of Google Maps (and more relating to SAJAX and other PHP implementations). The beta book, while only a little extra, is highly recommended!

Here it is on Amazon.com for $39.95
And here on Bookpool for $32.95

It's been my experience that Bookpool almost always has the best prices for technical books (AddAll confirms this is the case for this one). Plus, they offer free shipping on orders over $40.

Or you can buy it for 23.50 USD at bookpool:
http://www.bookpool.com/sm/1590594444

or for 29.69 at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590594444/002-09 47562-0071223?v=glance&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v =glance

or you could spend 40.49 at BN:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnIn quiry.asp?userid=ao05LCTCMJ&isbn=1590594444&itm=3


But of course BN is linked in this review.

Ever heard of a title called Code Complete written by Steve McConnell and published by Microsoft Press? Probably one of the top 5 "how to" software guides out there.
It's more about the author than the publisher.

Here you go:
http://www.bookpool.com/ss?qs=1590595009&x=33&y=8

Referrer free, cheaper, and supports an underdog!

The irony is that my Apple fanboyishness led me to this PDF printer driver in the quest for "My Mac does it, why can't my soggy Windows work laptop do it?"

Works pretty decently and the only "cost" is a popup ad.

Not as nice as OS X's integrated PDF output (nor is there as remotely elegant a PDF reader on Windows as Preview.app on OS X), but does the job quite well from any Windows app.

I also believe Office intends to save to a compressed XML format natively, based on whatever press releases they have put out recently.

Strangely relevant is that I'm currently (finally) reading The Cathedral & the Bazaar which, as many readers of this site are probably aware (no really, not trying to karma-whore here!), has a lot of things to say about the consequences of keeping your code and standards private.

I really don't get why Microsoft even bothered to keep their file format closed to begin with. There could have been a whole cottage industry set up by now to manipulate the data in those difficult-to-decipher closed binary file formats... the economy of which surely would have (ultimately) added to MS's bottom line, because they would have (in theory) produced the best tools.

Because neither the article nor the summary make it clear, Michal Zalewski is a Polish author and hacker who has a book named Silence on the Wire: A Field Guide to Passive Reconnaissance and Indirect Attacks published by No Starch Press and sold at your favorite bookstores.

O'Reilly has an online profile of Michal:

Michal Zalewski is a security researcher who has worked on topics ranging from hardware and OS design principles to networking. He has published research on many security topics and has worked for the past eight years in the InfoSec field for a number of reputable companies, including two major telecommunications firms.

it's even cheaper at bookpool.com

http://www.bookpool.com/ss?qs=1590593804&x=65&y=11

bookpool sells this book for $24.95 instead of $44.95.

You CAN develop modern, well-performing games in Java. Since you already have a good Java skillset, try these:
Killer Game Programming in Java from O'Reilly, and Developing Games in Java by David Brackeen, from New Riders.

Brackeen's book (Developing...) is particularly well-written, and a great place to start. Killer Game Programming in Java is an *excellent* idea source/reference in the great O'Reilly tradition, but is a little more intimidating, since you could use a copy to beat an elephant to death. "Killer" is a more recent book, and covers some aspects of Java 5.0 game development that Brackeen's book necessarily omitted. Both books also point out various commercial games, and games in development, that were written with Java. You're probably not going to end up writing a screaming, graphically stunning FPS with self-shadowing objects, etc., but since you're not EA, you can't afford to do that in your own time anyway. So why throw out your current skill with Java and learn C++ all over?

You CAN develop modern, well-performing games in Java. Since you already have a good Java skillset, try these:
Killer Game Programming in Java from O'Reilly, and Developing Games in Java by David Brackeen, from New Riders.

Brackeen's book (Developing...) is particularly well-written, and a great place to start. Killer Game Programming in Java is an *excellent* idea source/reference in the great O'Reilly tradition, but is a little more intimidating, since you could use a copy to beat an elephant to death. "Killer" is a more recent book, and covers some aspects of Java 5.0 game development that Brackeen's book necessarily omitted. Both books also point out various commercial games, and games in development, that were written with Java. You're probably not going to end up writing a screaming, graphically stunning FPS with self-shadowing objects, etc., but since you're not EA, you can't afford to do that in your own time anyway. So why throw out your current skill with Java and learn C++ all over?

Resellerratings allows you to search for specific products with S&H costs and vendor rating
if you enter your zip. No registration required, and they list a large number
of vendors including newegg, zipzoomfly and monarchcomputer. They also have a
neat hot deals feature on their home page (e.g. they featured a 200GB ATA Maxtor
dive for $69.99 including S&H from outpost.com a few days ago).

For the main post:

Or get it even cheaper at Bookpool for $25.50

... especially Java zealots, try reading Modern C++ Design by Alexandrescu. It'll blow your mind. Java generics don't even come close.

Never before have I so agreed with an AC.

OK, this isn't about bookpool (thanks for the link) but about the very first thing I read in the PDF excerpt on bookpool. In "4.3 Generating a List of Files from a Source Install for Easy Uninstalls" she shows how to get a list of files that were added by a program installation. But this is not sufficient; you must also find any files (especially configs in /etc) that were modified by the program installation. If a modified config causes one of the deleted programs to be called, e.g. during boot-up, that can lead to big headaches when your startup script dies as a result. This is especially true with programs that don't have an uninstall; since the uninstall process wasn't even thought about, there may be other unknown (bad) programming practices hidden in it too. That she doesn't mention this (or is even aware of it?) gives me an uneasy feeling.

$25.50 /shill

$25.50 at the almighty bookpool.

Perhaps I'm evil, not supporting bn.com but, it's a massive difference in price - cheap enough to pick up casually.

Open Source books on sale now for 43% off - over 700 in all! See bookpool.com

Bookpool has it for $28.50. Don't click the bn sponsored link (where it's a whopping $44.95).

PS, I don't work for Bookpool, I hate it when /. gets a kickback from doing something dumb like clicking the link to overpriced merchandise.

For desktop UI, I actually open up a few MS apps and just look around for ideas. Say what you will about MS (this is /., so I am going to get nailed for this), but they usually do a pretty good job with a standardized layout. Lately I have also been inspired with Firefox and Thunderbird and have incorporated a couple of inspirations from those apps into a project I am currently working on.