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Re:Nice to see...
Sure beats the news coming out of (...) Corel of late.
Actually today on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's website, Corel Reports a modest profit
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Re:Nice to see...
Sure beats the news coming out of (...) Corel of late.
Actually today on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's website, Corel Reports a modest profit
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Audio link
The CBC has it archived in RealAudio form (sorry, I haven't tried it, I'm between classes) on this page. Just scroll down to the Feb 18th show. There's also a bunch of listener mail and an archived discussion board.
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Host it in Canada
(IANAL)
Just thought I'd add a point to this discussion. While it's all very sexy to have a napster server on the outlaw military installation of sealand there is a much better alternative.
Host it in Canada.
That right, under canadian copyright law's fair use section Napster like uses of copyrighted materials are legal. While as I said, IANAL, I was listening to a radio show on the CBC called Cross Country Checkup on Feb 18 and the subject was Should Napster be shut down?. If you follow the link you'll see that Michael Geist, Assistant Prof. of Law at U of Ottawa was one of the guests. According to him our copyright laws have no provision in them saying that napster like uses of copyrighted materials are illegal, as long as nobody profits from such transactions.
So while running a napster server out of some outlaw state is pretty cool, Canada makes a much better alternative. It has good bandwidth, good living conditions and you can't be shut down. If this sounds too good to be true, than contact Mr. Geist through his webpage.
"Sex on TV is bad. You might fall off." - Monty Python
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Host it in Canada
(IANAL)
Just thought I'd add a point to this discussion. While it's all very sexy to have a napster server on the outlaw military installation of sealand there is a much better alternative.
Host it in Canada.
That right, under canadian copyright law's fair use section Napster like uses of copyrighted materials are legal. While as I said, IANAL, I was listening to a radio show on the CBC called Cross Country Checkup on Feb 18 and the subject was Should Napster be shut down?. If you follow the link you'll see that Michael Geist, Assistant Prof. of Law at U of Ottawa was one of the guests. According to him our copyright laws have no provision in them saying that napster like uses of copyrighted materials are illegal, as long as nobody profits from such transactions.
So while running a napster server out of some outlaw state is pretty cool, Canada makes a much better alternative. It has good bandwidth, good living conditions and you can't be shut down. If this sounds too good to be true, than contact Mr. Geist through his webpage.
"Sex on TV is bad. You might fall off." - Monty Python
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CBC's take
Here is CBC's take on the movie.
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Mafiaboy pleaded guilty in January
The linked article is out of date. On January 18th Mafiaboy pleaded guilty to 56 of the 66 charges. The other 10 charges were withdrawn. CBC has some details.
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Re:GNU for Biology? (counter-example)The fight over genetic ownership has already started. Monsanto "owns" the genetic mods for a version of Canola that is resistant to their "roundup" plant-killer. The seeds of a 'monsanto' crop apparently blew into a farmer's field, and he used them. Now Monsanto is suing him for using seeds that he found on his field.
The apparent purpose of the lawsuit is to create a chilling atmosphere for other people so that they'll be afraid of using a seed if they even think that it could be one they claim ownership of. (up to this point, they've been relying on contracts with farmers that restrict them from using monsanto seeds without paying a fee. Unfortunately seeds don't know anything about contracts (the farmer in this case has not signed any sort of contract with the company.
The extreme case for this sort of lawsuit would be where a company claims 'ownership' of a human genetic mod. Can you imagine the idea of a company claiming royalties for your children?
Honestly, your honor, I did not know that my girlfriend was Monsanto modified. If I had, I would have probably chosen a different partner.
Judge: Ignorance is no defence. O fine you $30,000 and order the child destroyed.
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Re:They're forgetting somethingThe fight over GM crops isn't entirely (or even mostly) a religious one (although, I can see religious groups getting edgy about messing with god's creations). The fight tends to center more around the 'frankenstein effect' -- how creating a GM product can have unexpected side-effects.
It's rather like the case of drug side-effects, except for the fact that, once you let a GM plant 'into the wild' it's almost impossible to recall it. By the time you find out that a plant is really bad to have in existence in the wild, the seeds and pollen could be far beyond the fields they're planted in.
The CBC has an in-depth report about a lawsuit stemming from the problem of rogue seeds. (These plants, thankfully, don't seem to be malignant.)
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Court case in Canada, too
There was a slightly similar case before the British Columbia Supreme Court regarding posession of child pornography. There's an article about it on the CBC website.
However, part of the issue this side of the 49th is the definition of child pornography. The particular case before the court at the moment involves someone who penned erotic fantasies of juvenile sex for his own private enjoyment. The argument is that the definition is so broad that it infringes on basic rights.
The police, on the other hand, argue that they need a relatively broad definition, and the ability to arrest for posession, because otherwise they would be handicapped to ineffectiveness and they'd be unable to fight child pornography at all.
My take on the issue is that the two sides are arguing past each other. Fix the definition. I'm reasonably sure there's a happy medium where both sides can be equally dissatisfied.
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Re:Nuclear is good
As Ken Finkelman once said, 'CANDU can't do'. Nuclear power in unsafe in communist hands and CANDU is a good pun, certainly - but I wouldn't call the Japanese communist, nor would I call the CANDU reactor safe, in either Korean hands or Canadian hands, though that may be due to all the pinkos up here. Regardless, fusion power will probably be the long-term solution to energy demands. It solves the principal problem of fission - radioactive waste - while introducing no new problems of its own, aside from the inevitable problem of finding out how to build something never built before.
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Re:Nuclear is good
As Ken Finkelman once said, 'CANDU can't do'. Nuclear power in unsafe in communist hands and CANDU is a good pun, certainly - but I wouldn't call the Japanese communist, nor would I call the CANDU reactor safe, in either Korean hands or Canadian hands, though that may be due to all the pinkos up here. Regardless, fusion power will probably be the long-term solution to energy demands. It solves the principal problem of fission - radioactive waste - while introducing no new problems of its own, aside from the inevitable problem of finding out how to build something never built before.
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Re:Nuclear is good
As Ken Finkelman once said, 'CANDU can't do'. Nuclear power in unsafe in communist hands and CANDU is a good pun, certainly - but I wouldn't call the Japanese communist, nor would I call the CANDU reactor safe, in either Korean hands or Canadian hands, though that may be due to all the pinkos up here. Regardless, fusion power will probably be the long-term solution to energy demands. It solves the principal problem of fission - radioactive waste - while introducing no new problems of its own, aside from the inevitable problem of finding out how to build something never built before.
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Re:Nuclear is good
As Ken Finkelman once said, 'CANDU can't do'. Nuclear power in unsafe in communist hands and CANDU is a good pun, certainly - but I wouldn't call the Japanese communist, nor would I call the CANDU reactor safe, in either Korean hands or Canadian hands, though that may be due to all the pinkos up here. Regardless, fusion power will probably be the long-term solution to energy demands. It solves the principal problem of fission - radioactive waste - while introducing no new problems of its own, aside from the inevitable problem of finding out how to build something never built before.
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Same things happen in Canada
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Same things happen in Canada
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Re:Come to Canada!
Er, that's not true.
Oh, yes it is. The law was struck on July 31. The Justice Ministry had until Sept. 29, 2000 to appeal. At this point, the best they can do is rewrite the law to allow medicinal use while continuing to prohibit recreational use. However, medicinial use will have to be allowed under the new law, advancing Canadian law a bit farther than it was before.
In a best-case scenario, the Justice Ministry would just decriminalize the drug and move on to more pressing issues. I've already outlined the worst case, outside of "outside pressure" encouraging the government to ignore the decision and reinstate the law untouched. -
Re:We can only own rifles, legally copy musical wo
We're just too stinkin' nice to need guns for self defence. -- It's not like we didn't have our columbine copy-cat. It's that with one dead, and one wounded, it was national news (and still is -- the kid just went on trial). In the states, a shooting that size would barely make it into some local newspapers, much less onto the national news.
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Re:Just the encrpyt bit
Canada doesn't have quite as high an average standard of living
Actually Canada has the highest standard of living on the planet. See http://cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/view.cgi?category= World&story=/news/2000/06/29/UN_report000629
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Hopefully they won't try to restart it...
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Re:7 YEARS???Obviously you don't live in Vancouver. We had a Hemp Store that ran just fine for years. It was a great store. Had all sorts of neat stuff (I bought some hemp paper there that I filed in the Court of Appeals). Apparently their neighbours liked them because they were attracting some nice up-scale clientele.
They didn't get touched until they got presented on 60-Minutes. At that point our glorious mayor (a sour little so and so who seems to care more about what looks good than what works good) took on shutting them down as his personal crusade. I think he wasted City Hall's time for more than a year, trying to pull their business license. In the meantime, grotty little stores that were obvious crackhouse fronts didn't get touched. Even though I don't smoke, I was still pissed.
Then there's the Compassion club. They sell to people with a medical need for pot. They didn't get busted until they went to the cops, last month, to complain about someone stealing their stash -- One pound of organic pot. I guess the cops couldn't quite turn a blind eye to a formally filed report that essentially said
Yeah, we've got the stuff -- at least we did untill some bastard stole it from us (we think it was mikey). It's gonna cost us a lot to replace it. Do you think you could get it back for us?
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Re:7 YEARS???Obviously you don't live in Vancouver. We had a Hemp Store that ran just fine for years. It was a great store. Had all sorts of neat stuff (I bought some hemp paper there that I filed in the Court of Appeals). Apparently their neighbours liked them because they were attracting some nice up-scale clientele.
They didn't get touched until they got presented on 60-Minutes. At that point our glorious mayor (a sour little so and so who seems to care more about what looks good than what works good) took on shutting them down as his personal crusade. I think he wasted City Hall's time for more than a year, trying to pull their business license. In the meantime, grotty little stores that were obvious crackhouse fronts didn't get touched. Even though I don't smoke, I was still pissed.
Then there's the Compassion club. They sell to people with a medical need for pot. They didn't get busted until they went to the cops, last month, to complain about someone stealing their stash -- One pound of organic pot. I guess the cops couldn't quite turn a blind eye to a formally filed report that essentially said
Yeah, we've got the stuff -- at least we did untill some bastard stole it from us (we think it was mikey). It's gonna cost us a lot to replace it. Do you think you could get it back for us?
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Re:typical: not really
in the 99th percentile on a standard of living basis
With Canada being the 100th as stated by the UN.
I just mean that we can be responsible for one another form a more peaceful unity in general, with more consideration for the underprivileged... and more for the 'middle' classes as well. We (The worlds peoples) have to have goals and desires, we must be making collective decisions to better our common future, we have to choose a destination and set course (etc etc) - my point is that humanity has many problems:
Economic Imperialism
Environmental Collapse
Puritan/Religiously Derived Laws (prostitution/drugs/gay-rights/sodomy etc)
Overpopulation
Work-Aholism (Stress)
Lack of World Wide Universal Health Care (i still think it is important..)
Corrupt/Broken American Democracy
Consumerism
We should atleast have the collective will to choose to implement solutions, and apply collective resources to solve.
This is what I mean by responsibility - sometimes I feel as if Americans are becoming increasingly selfish, that the idea of self-serving, instant gratification and consumption is accelerating... cant we foresee this becoming a problem?
Im just a litte concerned - what are our plans? What are our priorities?
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Re:One thing to note: They're Canadian
This is good to see. Canadian's actually getting excited about their country and choices (or lack thereof, for the more cynical
;-) Unfortunately, in light of the recent US election foibles, the upcoming Canadian federal election on Nov 27, is getting even less limelight than it should. Please keep up the discussion! -
Meanwhile, north of the US border...
...there's an election taking place, and oh my kosh are the hot buttons being pushed.
I haven't heard much about the parties' stance on the Internet and digital rights/privacy issues, but then again, I haven't been poring over campaign literature either.
And while I don't think we have to worry too much about situations like the presidential mess in Florida, I'm starting to wonder if the Liberals are going to win with a much slimmer majority this go-around - or even if someone could get stuck with a minority government! Wouldn't that just be a kick in the pants, that 2000's least controversial North American election ends up being Mexico's (kudos for dropping the PRI like a giant maggot, BTW)!
Who do I plan on voting for? Good question; none of the four "major" parties set my pants on fire, and I don't know too much about the smaller-party and independent candidates in my area. Suppose I should find out and practice what I preach, non?
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Re:Uh, u mean like breasts? Re:How it worksHere's a (tiny) picture courtesy of CBC:
http://cbc.ca/gfx/photos/keyboard_ergonom001108.j
p gThe thing looks more like two giant selector dials connected together.
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Re:How it works
There was a story about this on CBC, which includes a small picture.
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Re:another story - another slashdotted site
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Re:another story - another slashdotted site
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Re:Canadian Election
Here are a few links:
http://home.ican.net/~alexng/can.html
http://www.elections.ca/
http://cbc.ca/election2000/The french version of the CBC's web site is formatted differently, imo, better:
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Re:It HAS been used in civil engineering
Digging a new Panama Canal with nuclear bombs. Blasting out an instant harbour. Launching a giant rocket with nuclear explosions. Science fiction? No. Actual plans.
Between 1957 and 1988, American and Soviet scientists used nuclear bombs in more than 150 civilian engineering experiments around the world.
(From the N ature of Things website.)
There was an episode of the Nature of Things a couple of weeks ago called "Nuclear Dyanamite" about proposed and actual uses of nuclear bombs for civil engineering projects. Unfortunately my local CBC affliate has decided to run Walker, Texas Ranger instead of this show this season so I wasn't able to see this episode. I believe the show is also seen in the U.S. on PBS. Check your local listings.
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Re:CBC Website and NBC's stupid coverageI wanted to post to an earlier story to say how glad I am to live in Canada and be able to watch 3 different Olympic networks on plain old basic cable (CBC, NBC, and TSN).
I just couldn't believe how annoying it was to watch the women's triathalon, taped on NBC with the stupid scripted commentary read by somebody who sounded like he just came from an audition for a daytime drama. What a relief to be able to switch 3 channels down the dial and see the men's triathalon live, with real sports commentators, really commenting on the sport being shown, live, in real-time.
It's like NBC is trying to make the Olympics into a made-for-tv miniseries. Ugh. I'm offended.
So add my voice to the chorus of "Hoorah for CBC".
Oh, and here is CBC's web coverage of the results from Sydney. While you're at it, also check out results from TSN, Canada's sports network.
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CBC WebsiteI don't have a link for it, but apparently NBC is trying to get the CBC here in Canada to stop updating their olympic web site as soon as the events are completed because NBC's coverage does not occur until later the next day.
There have also been reports on how many American's near the border and with satalite have actually been watching CBC coverage because they are showing events live (even at 5am), while NBC is always a day behind.
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Re:Not just the subject matter
<AOL> Me Too! </AOL>
I listen to NPR on the way to work and home, because the short little "this program brought to you by FooCompany, makers of business to business software" is WAY, WAY less irritating than the advertising on other channels. And they have interesting stuff - I've bought CD's from musicians I've heard on NPR, and found out interesting stuff about the recent party conventions.
And the rest of my news I get from the net - Slashdot, Blues News, Wired News, CBC (Canadian non-corporate news) and CNN.com.
The critical thing about on-line news is I can quickly scan the headlines, ignore the ads, and only read the stuff I care about.
When you get used to that, watching news on TV is just intolerable, both for the astoundingly stupid and annoying ads that make you wait until they end, and even more importantly, the lack of a fast forward button to skip the retarded "human interest" stories that are irrelevent filler.
Watching TV news is like watching a stupid person web surfing. It's painful.
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Re:Not Watching Much Anyway
As noted earlier, try to get CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) Sports Olympic coverage - that link is their planned 15-day television schedule (and it's 18 hours a day), so you could work out what to watch. They appear to have live coverage every night from 11:30PM to 8AM EDT - even the opening and closing ceremonies go out live around 4AM, plus the usual prime time coverage.
Usually, CBC is really good about posting stuff as-it-goes on the web site. So, if they already ran it live on TV at 4AM, my bet is that the results will be web-available. Their radio feeds (from several time zones) are RealAudio'd - too bad they don't do that to the television audio feed as well!
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On Cowpland's resignation...
Maybe you should know that he's wanted for insider trading in Ontario. From the CBC: Cowpland denied that his departure has anything to do with the insider-trading allegations. Cowpland has been charged by the Ontario Securities Commission with violating securities laws in the sale of $20.5 million worth of Corel stock in 1997. He has denied any wrongdoing. It's very common for bosses (or public figures generally) to resign just before being brought to justice. It's even more common for them to deny everything...
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Re:not so much a musical group
Although they've done a lot of music, I think they're known more for their writing and acting in sketch and improv comedy. They once did a show with the band "Junior Gone Wild", and even had their own comedy series on CBC. They still do good music, though. One of my favourites is "The War of 1812".
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The man of many facesSir Alec Guinness: The man of many faces is a CBC report on his passing. There are also links to various web sites about Sir Alec Guiness.
My favorite quote form the story
to plunge back into Shakespeare, is like taking a very refreshing, cold bath.
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Links to articles
Reuters
CBC
Wired News
MSNBC
CNN
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Hype pays off
All the hype was worthwhile for the studio. The X-Men made the fourth-highest three-day weekend opening ever. Here' s the story. Personally, I enjoyed it more than any of the top three.
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Re:Cultural Differences (wayyy OT) (film@11)Way Back in 1997 Vanouver, BC hosted the APEC (Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation) conference. In many ways this was the mother of the WTO conference in Seattle.
In an attempt to avoid "embarrassing" various of the Dictators who would be showing up for the conference, the Canadian government attempted to place all sorts of operational restrictions on protest at the conference. This was rather problematic given that the main leaders' conference was going to be at the University of British Columbia.
Despite some questions in RCMP ranks, about the legality of these restrictions, some very constitutionaly questionable actions were taken. Among the most questionable were the pepper-spraying of protestors, and the MOST questionable of those was when staff seargent Stewart walked up to a group of protesters in an area which, up until then, they had been allowed and -- on about 9 seconds warning -- sprayed the whole group including a CBC reporter.
In response to complaints about RCMP overreaction at the event, Cretien made a couple of comments, including one that "At least it was better than using Baseball Bats". At a later protest, when Cretien returned to Vancouver, police DID use baseball bats on protestors.
Numerous CBC articles on apec here. and Here .
Some comments from the protestors' point of viewOH, and while I'm at it: some video on the Soldier of Fortune story. (to stay on topic).
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Re:Cultural Differences (wayyy OT) (film@11)Way Back in 1997 Vanouver, BC hosted the APEC (Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation) conference. In many ways this was the mother of the WTO conference in Seattle.
In an attempt to avoid "embarrassing" various of the Dictators who would be showing up for the conference, the Canadian government attempted to place all sorts of operational restrictions on protest at the conference. This was rather problematic given that the main leaders' conference was going to be at the University of British Columbia.
Despite some questions in RCMP ranks, about the legality of these restrictions, some very constitutionaly questionable actions were taken. Among the most questionable were the pepper-spraying of protestors, and the MOST questionable of those was when staff seargent Stewart walked up to a group of protesters in an area which, up until then, they had been allowed and -- on about 9 seconds warning -- sprayed the whole group including a CBC reporter.
In response to complaints about RCMP overreaction at the event, Cretien made a couple of comments, including one that "At least it was better than using Baseball Bats". At a later protest, when Cretien returned to Vancouver, police DID use baseball bats on protestors.
Numerous CBC articles on apec here. and Here .
Some comments from the protestors' point of viewOH, and while I'm at it: some video on the Soldier of Fortune story. (to stay on topic).
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Re:Cultural Differences (wayyy OT) (film@11)Way Back in 1997 Vanouver, BC hosted the APEC (Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation) conference. In many ways this was the mother of the WTO conference in Seattle.
In an attempt to avoid "embarrassing" various of the Dictators who would be showing up for the conference, the Canadian government attempted to place all sorts of operational restrictions on protest at the conference. This was rather problematic given that the main leaders' conference was going to be at the University of British Columbia.
Despite some questions in RCMP ranks, about the legality of these restrictions, some very constitutionaly questionable actions were taken. Among the most questionable were the pepper-spraying of protestors, and the MOST questionable of those was when staff seargent Stewart walked up to a group of protesters in an area which, up until then, they had been allowed and -- on about 9 seconds warning -- sprayed the whole group including a CBC reporter.
In response to complaints about RCMP overreaction at the event, Cretien made a couple of comments, including one that "At least it was better than using Baseball Bats". At a later protest, when Cretien returned to Vancouver, police DID use baseball bats on protestors.
Numerous CBC articles on apec here. and Here .
Some comments from the protestors' point of viewOH, and while I'm at it: some video on the Soldier of Fortune story. (to stay on topic).
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Re:Cultural Differences (wayyy OT) (film@11)Way Back in 1997 Vanouver, BC hosted the APEC (Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation) conference. In many ways this was the mother of the WTO conference in Seattle.
In an attempt to avoid "embarrassing" various of the Dictators who would be showing up for the conference, the Canadian government attempted to place all sorts of operational restrictions on protest at the conference. This was rather problematic given that the main leaders' conference was going to be at the University of British Columbia.
Despite some questions in RCMP ranks, about the legality of these restrictions, some very constitutionaly questionable actions were taken. Among the most questionable were the pepper-spraying of protestors, and the MOST questionable of those was when staff seargent Stewart walked up to a group of protesters in an area which, up until then, they had been allowed and -- on about 9 seconds warning -- sprayed the whole group including a CBC reporter.
In response to complaints about RCMP overreaction at the event, Cretien made a couple of comments, including one that "At least it was better than using Baseball Bats". At a later protest, when Cretien returned to Vancouver, police DID use baseball bats on protestors.
Numerous CBC articles on apec here. and Here .
Some comments from the protestors' point of viewOH, and while I'm at it: some video on the Soldier of Fortune story. (to stay on topic).
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Re:Radio is not dead in the USAs It Happens is definitely Canadian. I heard it on NPR when I was in California last month. They had 'skilfully' edited out all blatently Canadian references in the show.
In a slightly different Vein, CBC Radio has a few radio comedy dramas. One which comes to mind is Dead Dog Cafe They also had The Great Easterner. It was a WONDERFUL show. Unfortunately, they seem to have shut down this show recently (and the website is out of comish -- hopefully this is only temporary)
I mean, what can you say about a radio show where the central character is Moth of Ucker (pronounce it very carefully)?.
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Re:Radio is not dead in the USAs It Happens is definitely Canadian. I heard it on NPR when I was in California last month. They had 'skilfully' edited out all blatently Canadian references in the show.
In a slightly different Vein, CBC Radio has a few radio comedy dramas. One which comes to mind is Dead Dog Cafe They also had The Great Easterner. It was a WONDERFUL show. Unfortunately, they seem to have shut down this show recently (and the website is out of comish -- hopefully this is only temporary)
I mean, what can you say about a radio show where the central character is Moth of Ucker (pronounce it very carefully)?.
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Re:Radio is not dead in the USAs It Happens is definitely Canadian. I heard it on NPR when I was in California last month. They had 'skilfully' edited out all blatently Canadian references in the show.
In a slightly different Vein, CBC Radio has a few radio comedy dramas. One which comes to mind is Dead Dog Cafe They also had The Great Easterner. It was a WONDERFUL show. Unfortunately, they seem to have shut down this show recently (and the website is out of comish -- hopefully this is only temporary)
I mean, what can you say about a radio show where the central character is Moth of Ucker (pronounce it very carefully)?.
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Re:Radio is not dead in the USAs It Happens is definitely Canadian. I heard it on NPR when I was in California last month. They had 'skilfully' edited out all blatently Canadian references in the show.
In a slightly different Vein, CBC Radio has a few radio comedy dramas. One which comes to mind is Dead Dog Cafe They also had The Great Easterner. It was a WONDERFUL show. Unfortunately, they seem to have shut down this show recently (and the website is out of comish -- hopefully this is only temporary)
I mean, what can you say about a radio show where the central character is Moth of Ucker (pronounce it very carefully)?.
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Re:How is it possible....There are 30 million Canadians. As well, about 10% of home Internet users in Canada have high speed connections such as @Home (cable modem), or Sympatico High Speed Edition (ADSL). I don't see much of a problem with the streaming. However, I can't imagine paying $9/month to get MuchMusic when I can get it on cable for pretty much the same price and it won't be postage stamp size.
Oh, and BTW this story and the article were already posted on Slashdot by timothy on June 10th.
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Courtney Love:"real pirates are the companies"
Small tag to an article
Courtney Love, the singer and actress, says the real music pirates are not kids at their computers
companies that rip off artists.
cbc.ca article
"Working at 7 Eleven would have been a better deal," says Love.