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Where do you get fear-mongering about ruining all arable land?

All over the place...

"severe crop failures and livestock shortages worldwide."
- http://www.livescience.com/370...

"average yields are predicted to decrease by 30â"46% before the end of the century under the slowest (B1) warming scenario and decrease by 63â"82% under the most rapid warming scenario"
- http://www.pnas.org/content/10...

"most of the Western Hemisphere (along with large parts of Eurasia, Africa, and Australia) may be at threat of extreme drought this century."
- http://www.skepticalscience.co...

"25 million more children will be malnourished in 2050 due to the impact of climate change on global agriculture."
"irrigated wheat yields, for example, will fall at least 20 percent by 2050 as a result of global warming"
"business as usual will guarantee disastrous consequences for the human race."
- http://www.scientificamerican....

"Decreased arability. Prime growing temperatures may shift to higher latitudes, where soil and nutrients may not be as suitable for producing crops, leaving lower-latitude areas less productive."
- http://www.climatehotmap.org/g...

It isn't from the scientists.

That sounds an awful lot like "No True Scotsman" to me...

Do you know the difference between the Atlantic ocean and Oceania? BTW, if you read the link, you will notice it actually blames much of that on El Nino, another natural phenomenon.

" We already see the Atlantic current weakening and moving away from NA. The more it slows down, the more hot water will stay in the Gulf and tropics. Guess what? That's where the Hurricanes begin."

Got anything backing that up? Because in the world I live in (you know, the real one), I've heard much about how it is moving towards NA, which is why more storms made it to the coast this year. BTW, that movement can also be seen in historical records, implying it is also a natural phenomenon.

I'm not saying that global warming will not cause more hurricanes, rather it has not. Future global warming related events may affect future hurricane seasons, but they cannot have affected the current hurricane season due the nature of cause and effect relations, noteably that the cause has to happen first.

You mean like http://www.climatehotmap.org/oceania.html

We already see the Atlantic current weakening and moving away from NA. The more it slows down, the more hot water will stay in the Gulf and tropics. Guess what? That's where the Hurricanes begin.

Oh, and good luck with that...

Haven't you been paying attention? ;)

I agree with parts of what the parent said, and this post is only in part intended as a reply to that post. I do, however, think that it is important to point out that global warming does affect some people greatly, and those people are not European. I don't think that the "people do die" argument is valid here.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/2204756.st m
http://www.unwire.org/UNWire/20030729/449_7030.asp
http://greennature.com/article1608.html
http://www.climatehotmap.org/africa.html

Read the IPCC reports on climate change, not just the books trying, and failing, to debunk them, take a look at the global warming early warning signs map, and read the debunkings of where ever you got your views on climate change from (a good way is to do a google search on '"information source" debunked', where you fill in your information source's title. Climate change is real, it is dangerous, and it must be stopped.

A smaller scale experiment can give insights to a larger problem. Thus, before the Wright brothers flew, they made (essentially) toy airplanes.

We already know that the earth's ecology more-or-less works (leaving aside some human intervention), but we don't have much understanding of how or why it works, or what might lead to our current niche in the ecology abruptly reducing in distribution and scope (aside from certain obvious threats). Small scale experiments in space allow us to get a better understanding of the principles, and possibly try some purturbation analyses.

Yes, in theory, this can be done on Earth as well. But there are other synergistic benefits to doing it in space (EG, getting free soup)... and just because it can be done on Earth, doesn't mean it will be done. How much biosphere research is done from NASA? How much of that would go away without the need to occaisionally keep some %^&%* lucky bastards alive up there every now and then?

(Disclaimer: I work with someone who was one of those %^&%* lucky bastards.)

You know, when I search for "California's problems" I just get the usual prolifera of all the ways God hates you.

Offtopic I know but I thought I'd digress anyway.

Global warming isn't real?

But without some evidence, your post is looking like a rant. Oh, and
http://www.climatehotmap.org/
http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/home. html The last decade of the 20th Century was the warmest in the entire global instrumental temperature record
http://www4.nationalacademies.org/onpi/webextra.ns f/web/climate?OpenDocument