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Some Options
1. Cheapest option: Pen and paper to draft and write and then type it up somewhere on a free computer (e.g at school or a library)
2. Cheap Tablet e.g a 9" Android tablet can be had delivered for $32 from ebay. Get a bluetooth keyboard with it. Type wherever and then use cloud storage (e.g dropbox) or email to transfer files. There's free wifi to be had in a few locations.
3. Cheap PC desktop/laptop from ebay. Can be had for probably around $50 Install a lightweight linux on there (e.g lubuntu) and it would do the trick.
4. Get the school to buy a few cheap laptops and loan them to students
5. Partner with computer user groups or recycling groups or things like freecycle to get free computers. Here are some starting points: PCs for people Project reboot -
Re:maybe the TCO is lower
Sure, I could use apt and the others, but it just takes too much time, and you have to worry about various dependencies and what not.
Actually, if you use apt then it resolves the dependencies for you. And besides, you still have dependencies even with Windows -- have you never heard of DLL Hell? -
Re:WWW????
I think it is fairly safe to assume that it being a vacation rental, presumably not in a resort community for programmers,
NEWSFLASH: programmers are as likely to take a vacation as much as anyone. You don't need to be a programmer to get admin access to a box you have physical access to. Any dumbass teenager with a book and an interest in computers can compromise your system. The point is, you can't assume who's going to be there. Security through obscurity ain't the answer, genius!
that choices #1-5 will be windows 9x+, #6 might be mac OS X, with linux battling it out at #7 with windows 3.1. I am not trying to be all anti-linux here, but this is a vacation setting, you want to keep people as happy and comfortable as possible, not completely shatter some average guy's self perception of computer literacy.
Good point. You don't want anyone to feel down on themselves cause they can't use linux. But, again, the point is you don't know whose going to be using the box. And linux is fine for cruising the web and using email (which is what any average user does anyway. GNOME, AQUA, XP...pheh! Whatever. If there's physical access+knowledge it doesn't take a genius to crack it.
As for protecting what damage the computer can do to the rest of the world, there are also easy OS agnostic solutions you did not realize- mainly a firewall. blocking all outgoing/ingoing ports except port 80 should keep anyone protected.
. If it's a linksys, just make sure paperclips are safely locked away and buy up all the local office supply stores of their stash.
And you never mentioned your ISP. If they don't block port 25, and you're tennents are visiting from
Unless someone needs VPN access to their job, it is reasonable to only restrict them to the web.
Yup. VPN would break your security measures too. So first you assume that the people using the vacation box are know-nothing ninnehammers and all of sudden they know how to use VPN? Make up y'r mind!
Yeah if someone knowledgable really wants to get around the system, they can... but who really rents a vacation house when they can go to a library.
Another newsflash: geeks like the beach as much as anyone. I used to live 500 feet from a gorgeous NJ beach. Loved it. hacking, videogames, getting blasted, cruising the boards and bodysurfing. Twas the life.
There is a threat of an axe murderer renting it and burying bodies in the basement, does that mean you recommend putting video surveilence down there?
No, but if your ISP is dumb enough to have smtp relay turned off, you may want to bring an axe the next time you visit these tennants. Depending on whether of course, they are in fact using your station for spam relay.
Your idea of screening tenants to see what computer background they have is silly. hes renting a vacation house with a computer, not a computer with a vacation house.
Missed the point entirely. That wasn't where I was coming from, sparky. Point I was making is that you simply don't know. You read way too much Ionesco.
It is posts like this that really make me want a (-1, stick up ass) moderation.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was addressing a 12 year old. If I did, I would've coddled you more and thrown a few more "power rangers" references in to make you feel more at home. The entire point of what I wrote is that, without providing ANY specifics, how can anyone give you serious help? By the way, I know your sarcasm detector is way off...I was kidding about the paperclips. Just keep the linksys under lock and key. Even that won't stop Joe Uberh4xor on vaycay... -
Re:The real invventors of the airplane.
there were many people in the early 1900's that tested airplanes.
For example http://www.cpcug.org/user/stefan/vuia.html -
Re:makes you wonder...I'm not posting anonymously, and am without doubt pro-life. What we fear is the discrimination that most people prefer to utilize when dealing with the pro-life movement. That is to write us off as lunatics, crazies, violent drooling christian hordes of which most of us could hardly be described as.
"the so-called "pro-life" [highly ironic since people have been killed in the "pro-life" battle] movement wants to impose their will on all others. pro-choice does not. "
FYI, Pro-Choicers Are not Innocent in the Violence Issue
Dr. Bruce Steir, Abortionist, Charged With Murder
before you continue basing your opinion in the misconception that the pro-choice side is any less violent to grown-up people (as they are already are encouraging the killing of the unborn from 2 weeks to 9 months).
We here at Anarchists for Life took a stand against violence when we adopted this as part of our faq that "We do not support violence inside or outside of abortion clinics. We do support peaceful protest." We are hardly alone on the issue
Pat Goltz's Pro-life and Feminist Writings
Leftout: A Haven for Progressive (Liberal) Pro-Lifers
Pro-Woman, Pro-Life: Stop Abortion
Check Your Stereotypes At the Door
Rennaissance Suffragettes (Pro-Life Feminism)
Atheist and Agnostic Pro-Life League
RightGrrl: Conservative Pro-Life Women
An American Patriot's Page of Thanks
Matt Wallace: A Pro-Life/Anti-Violence Secular Humanist Atheist
Rochester Area Right To Life Committee (Rochester, NY)
Indiana University Students for Life
David Horne's Gay Pro-life Christian Homepage
In Susan B. Anthony's Footsteps: Pro-Woman, Pro-Life! Webring
The New Abolitionists (or "Funny, I Don't Feel Like A Conservative!")
STAAR: Standing Together Against Abortion Rights (Canada)
Weird Politik: Because Politics Can be Very Strange Sometimes
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Re:makes you wonder...I'm not posting anonymously, and am without doubt pro-life. What we fear is the discrimination that most people prefer to utilize when dealing with the pro-life movement. That is to write us off as lunatics, crazies, violent drooling christian hordes of which most of us could hardly be described as.
"the so-called "pro-life" [highly ironic since people have been killed in the "pro-life" battle] movement wants to impose their will on all others. pro-choice does not. "
FYI, Pro-Choicers Are not Innocent in the Violence Issue
Dr. Bruce Steir, Abortionist, Charged With Murder
before you continue basing your opinion in the misconception that the pro-choice side is any less violent to grown-up people (as they are already are encouraging the killing of the unborn from 2 weeks to 9 months).
We here at Anarchists for Life took a stand against violence when we adopted this as part of our faq that "We do not support violence inside or outside of abortion clinics. We do support peaceful protest." We are hardly alone on the issue
Pat Goltz's Pro-life and Feminist Writings
Leftout: A Haven for Progressive (Liberal) Pro-Lifers
Pro-Woman, Pro-Life: Stop Abortion
Check Your Stereotypes At the Door
Rennaissance Suffragettes (Pro-Life Feminism)
Atheist and Agnostic Pro-Life League
RightGrrl: Conservative Pro-Life Women
An American Patriot's Page of Thanks
Matt Wallace: A Pro-Life/Anti-Violence Secular Humanist Atheist
Rochester Area Right To Life Committee (Rochester, NY)
Indiana University Students for Life
David Horne's Gay Pro-life Christian Homepage
In Susan B. Anthony's Footsteps: Pro-Woman, Pro-Life! Webring
The New Abolitionists (or "Funny, I Don't Feel Like A Conservative!")
STAAR: Standing Together Against Abortion Rights (Canada)
Weird Politik: Because Politics Can be Very Strange Sometimes
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The state of affairs in MarylandThe Maryland General Assembly is considerably more liberal than their counterparts in Virginia. What does this mean? Well, it can mean a lot of things; in this case, it means the opinion of the American Library Association (a member of 4cite) probably carries more weight in Maryland.
I don't know much about the Senate bill, but the sponsors of House Bill 19 are the members of the House leadership. Few of them know much about the bill yet. There are a few exceptions: Delegate Sandy Rosenberg and Delegate Nancy Kopp are both members of the House leadership who did not sign on to the bill -- they apparently have some vague idea of some disconcerting going on.
Bob Kopp
(Yes, I am related to one of the above.)