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Don't know where you're at but there's more than one place you can visit. This one is in Texas. And right next door is Dinosaur Valley where you can check out some dinosaur tracks.

They merely purged the heretics.

Well, of course. That's how closed-loop political tribes roll. See, also, too, the American Lysenkoists.

well, like Kansas or something

Rather ironic that you mention ignorant Texans...

Have you visited this place...it is in Texas... http://www.creationevidence.org/

Everything in Texas is indeed bigger...unfortunately for the rest of us that includes egos and assholes.

In Texas, I do recommend: http://www.creationevidence.org/ It's small, but you'll at least get to see some things that will make you think presented by some people that do believe in science.

This may be the first of it's kind in Kentucky, there has been one in Glenrose Texas for quite some time http://www.creationevidence.org/

There has been a Creationist Museum in Texas for many years. It is situated right next to the Poluxy river and the Dinosaur National Park. (Many dinosaur tracks were found in the river bed.)

http://www.creationevidence.org/

Maybe these guys think there's is different enough to claim theirs is "first of it's kind" for some definition of "kind". But it is not the first.

http://www.creationevidence.org/

Sorry kids, not the first.

Be prepared to spittle on yourself some more:

• Two footprints
• Replica of the stegosaurus carved in a ten-foot column at the Ta Prohm Cambodian Temple dedicated in 1186.
• Ten quick reasons for a young earth

Be prepared to spittle on yourself some more:

• Two footprints
• Replica of the stegosaurus carved in a ten-foot column at the Ta Prohm Cambodian Temple dedicated in 1186.
• Ten quick reasons for a young earth

400 dinosaur tracks and over 80 human footprints

I've done a lot of research on ID/evolution, and here are some points i'd like to make. Note: when I started reading this thread, there were 3000+ posts already; I could only skim it. So please bear with me if I'm repeating anything.

I'm getting much of this information from In the Beginning, an excellent book about Creation Science. It lists 135+ evidences against evolution, and introduces Hydroplate Theory, a theory that attempts to explain the Flood and just about ANY geological feature you can think of, and many you can't.

First, some points I picked up on the thread:

1. Where did the fossils come from?
The fossils were laid down during the flood. An interesting experement was done once in which they took some dead animals of various different types (reptile, amphibian, bird, mammal, etc) and placed them in a tank of water. As they sunk, the "lower" animals were the first to sink, followed by the "higher" animals (e.g. Sorted by amphibian, reptile, mammal, bird, etc.). This information came from the book but can't seem to find it. If I can find it, I will post the web address.

2. Macroevolution/Microevolution
It is a established fact that life forms adapt to their enviroment; if they did not, they would go extinct. But this does not mean they can turn into an entirely different species; there are limits to how far a life form can change. This is why you do not see, e.g. horses breed down to the size of weiner dogs. Book references: http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/LifeScie nces2.html, http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/LifeScie nces6.html,

Now some points of my own:

1. Problems with the fossil record
Despite the thousands and thousands and thousands of fossils found, NOT A SINGLE TRANSITION FOSSIL has been found. All "early man" fossils have been shown to be either a hoax (Piltdown Man), Modern man (Neaderthal), primate/ape (Lucy,or not even close to human! (Nebraska Man). Fossilized human footprints have been found right next to dinosaur footprints!
References:
23. Fossil Gaps
Notes for above. This is especially interesting, as it is evolutionists saying most of this.
24. Missing Trunk
25. Out-of-Place Fossils
26. Ape-Men?


2. Bacterial Flaggela
Flaggela are an amazing machine bacteria use them to move around. They can spin up to 100,000+ RPM, stop on a dime, and rev back up in the other direction in a fraction of a second.
Bacterial flaggela are made up of 40+ distinct parts, most or all of which must be present for it to operate. There is no way such a thing could evolve, as the other parts are useless without the others.
Some have said that it evolved from a pump that shares similar parts. But it only shares about 10 parts with it. Where did the other 30 come from? And where did the pump come from?

3. Origin of life
Life is so complex, that to create even a single self-replicating RNA sequence or a protein, is so unlikely as to basicaly be impossible. References:
28. Chemical Elements of Lif

Re Newton:
No less a scientist than Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1727), one of the greatest thinkers and most-respected scientists of all time (a serious Bible student and scientific creationist, by the way!), accepted Ussher's chronology and a 6,000-year-old Earth implicitly.
link

Re:
> You start out with a "Gish Gallop"
Get specific please. What exactly have I said wrong?

Re:
> any anything newer than the 16h century
Long list here

In case anyone is interested, here is the link to the web site of the Creation Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, Texas.

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The Cretaceous Period
146 to 65 Million Years Ago

and yet according to here, human prints and fossils have been found in Cretaceous rock:

human handprint found in Cretaceous rock
more pics
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The Cretaceous Period
146 to 65 Million Years Ago

and yet according to here, human prints and fossils have been found in Cretaceous rock:

human handprint found in Cretaceous rock
more pics
closeup 1
closeup 2

The Cretaceous Period
146 to 65 Million Years Ago

and yet according to here, human prints and fossils have been found in Cretaceous rock:

human handprint found in Cretaceous rock
more pics
closeup 1
closeup 2

The Cretaceous Period
146 to 65 Million Years Ago

and yet according to here, human prints and fossils have been found in Cretaceous rock:

human handprint found in Cretaceous rock
more pics
closeup 1
closeup 2

You can try creationevidence.org and see if any information there is of use to you.

>>>Actually, I'm biased against people who assert facts without evidence. It would be nice if there was a God (someone to blame, if nothing else), but the fact remains that there's no evidence that one exists. Belief without evidence is stupid and illogical, and I don't choose to indulge. I believe that evolution occurs through the process of natural selection as there is vast amounts of objective evidence to support it. If the creationists ever come up with objective, non-disprovable evidence that their mythology is actually true, I'm willing to change my beliefs. However, until then, I'll treat them as the laughingstock, annoyance, or threat that they've proved themselves to be at various times.

Like I had said before...I wasn't aruging for one over the other, I was simply stating what I have seen (as in presentations, class...) and read.

It is ashame you treat all creationists as a laughinstock. Surely someone can choose to believe differently than you without them being a laughingstock. Whether or not you choose to believe the evidence is for you to decide. I believe creationist evidence more than I do evolutionist evidence. However, I surely do not consider all evolutionists laughingstocks, I just accept that they believe differently than I do and go on. I am not going to change anyone's opinion, and making fun of someone because they choose to believe in something different than myself is narrow-minded and unkind.

Anyway, I hope that you can look past the differences in belief you have with creationists. Not allowing yourself to enjoy the company of someone simply by the fact that he or she may believe that God (The God of the Christians and Jews) created the universe.

Likewise, I feel that creationists need to "look past" the same in others. Sure, it may be nice if everyone believed in creation, but that will not happen. I don't know any creationist that laughs at someone that believes in evolution just because that person believes in evolution.

It's like politics. All the parties may disagree, but the people (maybe not the politicians themselves) still get along, even though they are democrats, republicans, libertarians, greens, reforms, whatever... One side of my family is die-hard left-wing liberal democrats. The other side is die-hard right-wing republican. I get along with both sides wonderfully, even though I may not necessarily agree with the politics.

I read the link on your post. Whoever taught you your probability theory must have gone to a vo-tech school
Read past the first page. Quotes from evolutionists.
Can you provide even an inkling of physical evidence indicating that the first man was named "Adam" and not "Doug?" Evolutionism is kicking creationist ass in the evidence dept.
Does it matter what the first person's name was?How about where Eden was?
Give me some evolutionary evidence. now.
and if dinos and humans existed together? (more)

Here's a good article discussing the big bang.
you know, creation v. evolution is is a lot like windows v. linux.... Evolution theory is bloated and 'buggy', but has a good PR dept. (edu. institutions), while creationism just works.
Don't reply to that, instead, read more. Also read the articles from creationism.org.