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Once upon a time, the NRA received dues from me, it took only one major election cycle to notice that they are merely shills for the Republican and Democrat parties. Libertarians are, how can I put this politely..., a freaking thorn in their side. What's the one thing that would bankrupt the NRA? Actual enforcement of the Bill of Rights! Then the NRA would have to go back to being a marksmanship club. Boo Hoo!

So I went looking for a more focused rights-oriented, rather than money oriented, organization and found Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership who didn't care a bit about my Jewishness. Their _Grandpa Jack_ book series is excellent.

And, of course, money to Debian for the best Linux distribution on earth.

Bob-

• R, including several add-on packages (such as tseries, RODBC, coda, mcmcpack, gtkdevice, rgtk, rquantlib, qtl, dbi, rmysql), out-of-the box support for the powerful ESS modes for XEmacs as well as the Ggobi visualisation program;
• A complete teTeX, TeX, and LaTeX setup for scientific publishing, along with TeXmacs and LyX for wysiwyg editing;
• Perl and Python with loads of add-ons, plus ruby, tcl, Lua, and Scientific and Numeric Python;
• The Emacs and Vim editors, as well as Gnumeric, kate, Koffice, jed, joe, nedit and zile;
• Octave, with add-on packages octave-forge, octave-sp, octave-epstk, and matwrap;
• Computer-algebra systems Maxima, Pari/GP, GAP, GiNaC and YaCaS;
• the QuantLib quantitative finance library including its Python interface;
• GSL, the Gnu Scientific Library (GSL) including example binaries;
• The GNU compiler suite comprising gcc, g77, g++ compilers;
• the OpenDX, Plotmtv, and Mayavi data visualisation systems;
• it includes apcalc,aribas,autoclass,

• R, including several add-on packages (such as tseries, RODBC, coda, mcmcpack, gtkdevice, rgtk, rquantlib, qtl, dbi, rmysql), out-of-the box support for the powerful ESS modes for XEmacs as well as the Ggobi visualisation program;
• A complete teTeX, TeX, and LaTeX setup for scientific publishing, along with TeXmacs and LyX for wysiwyg editing;
• Perl and Python with loads of add-ons, plus ruby, tcl, Lua, and Scientific and Numeric Python;
• The Emacs and Vim editors, as well as Gnumeric, kate, Koffice, jed, joe, nedit and zile;
• Octave, with add-on packages octave-forge, octave-sp, octave-epstk, and matwrap;
• Computer-algebra systems Maxima, Pari/GP, GAP, GiNaC and YaCaS;
• the QuantLib quantitative finance library including its Python interface;
• GSL, the Gnu Scientific Library (GSL) including example binaries;
• The GNU compiler suite comprising gcc, g77, g++ compilers;
• the OpenDX, Plotmtv, and Mayavi data visualisation systems;
• it includes apcalc,aribas,autoclass,

Uhhh, that's #66 (out of 718) in the games category. It's #2539 (out of 40400) in the overall list. Let's not have anyone think that some dinky game is the 66th most popular debian pacakge.

I too have an Indy (two of them picked up on the cheap from eBay) and I have a similar problem. Although I don't even have a set of disks to speak of, but it's what I really want as I wanted to try IRIX.

I need the disks because the boxes where supplied as-is, I was not supplied with either the bios or administrator password. The bios password is easy enough, if you open up the Indy there's a jumper available on the motherboard that will disable the bios password when removed. Once the jumper is removed I'm then stuck with needing (I think) Disk 2 of the installation disks which has a utility to reset the root password, as I have no disks I can't do this. From what I've read previously the IRIX license is per machine and not per user/set of disks so I think I should be perfectlly legal running both boxes with IRIX, just I need the disks, I too would be happy to pay for them with a no strings attached policy from SGI.

I've been considering putting either Debian MIPS or FreeBSD MIPS, but am reluctant to do so because I really wanted the Indys for the IRIX. As far as the status of those projects, I beleive Debian MIPS is good to go once I've setup a DHCP net booting system to bootstrap the install on the Indy and FreeBSD is still in development. Come to think of it, I bet my favourite flavor, NetBSD, has got a MIPS port (go 2.0!).

In case you'd like to know, there are problems which the Debian KDE people are working to address so that KDE can migrate from the unstable repositories. Other distros throw just anything in without much QA but Debian has horrendously high standards =)

In case you'd like to know, there are problems which the Debian KDE people are working to address so that KDE can migrate from the unstable repositories. Other distros throw just anything in without much QA but Debian has horrendously high standards =)

inst vote old recent no-files (maintainer)

451 84 347 19 1 (Tim Riker)

inst vote old recent no-files (maintainer)

451 84 347 19 1 (Tim Riker)

See my other post with links on how to setup TLS for your mail server, more info on building the web-of-trust, and GPG downloads for your windows friends.

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=132181&cid =11046941

Also note that the ======== http://link ======== at the end of the parent post has been mangled by Slashdot Submissions Co. and should be fixed before forwarding it on to your friends, or posting anywhere. Broken links have never impressed anybody.

WTF - Here are some links from the link above again. Sorry about the bandwidth wastage but I think it's worth people seeing as practices contained within are sure to benefit us all (in Utopia - yay!)

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WinPT :: Windows Privacy Tray [sf.net] is a good place to direct your friends still using windows.

I think a resource for mail administrators on how to add TLS capabilities to their SMTP handlers could be healthy for the net as well. On there would be step by steps on how to TLS-enable sendmail, postfix, qmail, proprietary-this, and proprietary-gateway-that.
:: Sendmail
:: Exim
:: Qmail

If you're running Postfix you've got little excuse to not be running TLS.
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.gen eral/979

My SMTP traffic is opportunisticly TransportLayerSecure. Is yours?

Get a free server certificate from cacert.org If you haven't already you should add their Root Certificate to the list your browser accepts. They will also remotely sign your PGP/GPG keys and issue free S/MIME certificates as well. Very cool, totally free, and a distributed trust model rather than a top-down, it'll-cost-you-$199.00-for-an-SSL-cert model.

For more keysigning fun DO NOT MISS http://biglumber.com/! Find people nearby and extend your web-o-trust.

Host a keysigning party at] your next LUG [debian.org] meeting .

You can get a email-address-verified signature at http://www.imperialviolet.org/keyverify.html

Learn about using subkeys .

- - - - - - GPG keys -- The new web. - - - - - - -

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Does anybody know of a good clearinghouse with information on plugins for a variety of mailers I could send my dad, high school friends, or grandmother to?

Anybody know of a list out there that collects information on how to secure your email, what's it's all about, and general key maintainence issues (for "the everyday net user")?

WinPT :: Windows Privacy Tray is a good place to direct your friends still using windows.

I'd like to be able to say to a friend: "Here's my key. Go to keepitprivate.com and find a plugin for the email software you use. Then next time you send me some email, just be sure to put it in an "envelope" (it just takes one extra click or can be set to happen automatically). You don't even need to lick a stamp! I value your privacy as much as I hope you value mine!"

I think a resource for mail administrators on how to add TLS capabilities to their SMTP handlers could be healthy for the net as well. On there would be step by steps on how to TLS-enable sendmail, postfix, qmail, proprietary-this, and proprietary-gateway-that. My SMTP traffic is opportunisticly TransportLayerSecure. Is yours?
Red Hat :: Sendmail
:: Exim
:: Qmail

If you're running Postfix you've got little excuse to not be running TLS.
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.gen eral/979

Get a free server certificate from cacert.org If you haven't already you should add their Root Certificate to the list your browser accepts. They will also remotely sign your PGP/GPG keys and issue free S/MIME certificates as well. Very cool, totally free, and a distributed trust model rather than a top-down, it'll-cost-you-$199.00-for-an-SSL-cert model.

For more keysigning fun DO NOT MISS http://biglumber.com/! Find people nearby and extend your web-o-trust.

Host a keysigning party at your next LUG meeting.

You can get a email-address-verified signature at http://www.imperialviolet.org/keyverify.html

Learn about using subkeys.

- - - - - - GPG keys -- The new web. - - - - - - -

I agree with you. Though GPL can be used for any kind of work, it is best suited for works where is possible to identify a "source" and a "binary" (speaking in terms of software).

A good choice would be the GNU Free Documentation License if you ask me.

This kind of stupid nationalism effects Free Software too.

Herbert Xu, a Debian Developer and maintainer of the Debian Linux Kernel package, resigned from Debian in May 2004 due to a dispute over the use of a Taiwanese flag.

Resignation on debian-boot with references to context

start of thread on debian-devel

-molo

This kind of stupid nationalism effects Free Software too.

Herbert Xu, a Debian Developer and maintainer of the Debian Linux Kernel package, resigned from Debian in May 2004 due to a dispute over the use of a Taiwanese flag.

Resignation on debian-boot with references to context

start of thread on debian-devel

-molo

Debian has a HURD distribution. The installation doesn't sound too bad if you have an existing Linux (or whatever) system and an adequate free partition, and are already using grub. I haven't been insane enough to try it, though.

Whilst we are (sort of) on topic, I am looking at putting Linux on a couple of workstations and a couple of servers. I am looking at cAos http://www.caosity.org/ (built from RedHat Enterprise source) and Debian Sarge http://www.debian.org/ (assuming it is released when I am ready to install).

Does anybody know of a good comparison between these two (or even RHEL vs Debian)? rather than relying on potentially missing something by looking only by myself.

Ask and ye shall recieve...

Nope. There is no real difference between Open Source Software and Free Software. The Open Source Definition is basically a fork of the Debian Free Software Guidelines. Sure, the OSS and FS people may have different views of why software should be free, and sometimes the OSI, FSF, Debian and other people differ on whether a particular license is free enough, but "Free Software" and "Open Source Software" are (more or less) synonymous.

IMPORTANT UPDATE: Please show your support for Ceren in this poll of Geek Babes!

Is it any wonder people think Linux users are a bunch of flaming homosexuals when its fronted by obviously gay losers like these?! BSD has a mascot who leaves us in no doubt that this is the OS for real men! If Linux had more hot chicks and gorgeous babes then maybe it would be able to compete with BSD! Hell this girl should be a model!

Linux is a joke as long as it continues to lack sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. Don't you wish the guy in this pic was you? Are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?! Wouldn't this just make your Christmas?! Yes doctor, this uber babe definitely gets my pulse racing! Oh how I envy the lucky girl in this shot! Linux has nothing that can possibly compete. Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Wouldn't this be more liklely to influence your choice of OS?

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Don't be a fag! Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

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2. The distribution of Debian using the new installer is not released yet. Once it is released, the documentation will be placed on the main web site.

3. If you really want to read the installation guide for the old installer even with the upcoming release pending, you could go to the amazingly hard to find link http://www.debian.org/doc and click on "Debian Installation Manual".

XEN is a Virtual Machine Monitor (VMM) originally developed by the Systems Research Group of the University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory, as part of the UK-EPSRC funded XenoServers project.

Xen enables multiple operating system images to execute concurrently on the same hardware with very low performance overhead --- much lower than commercial offerings for the same x86 platform.

Did you even bother to click the fucking link and see the page for Debian's AMD64 port?

From my limited experience, Fortan is about the best choice you can do for anything between "lightweight" tasks and more advanced tasks, as long as you skip a GUI requirement (even if you could, consider a Python GUI and remain calm).

For more complex matters, Ocaml might be a better choice, as compared to C/C++. Check out a Linux Ocaml shootout here and a Windows Ocaml shootout here. Neither of them were meant to be Ocaml benefactori per se, but it is hard to avoid being impressed (so, I'm a sucker for fast speed, low memory imprint, and few lines of code; but, what do I know...).

Still, none of these sites address Fortran, so the jury still is out there...

Well, Debian for one. In fact, Debian supports x86, Motorola 68k, SPARC, Alpha, PowerPC, ARM, MIPS, PA-RISC, IA-64, and S/390 architectures. Porting to the AMD64 and Hitachi SuperH is also underway. Note that the 68k, PowerPC, ARM, and SuperH are all popular for embedded applications.

Let's see, Debian - Ports

• i386
• m68k
• sparc
• alpha
• powerpc
• arm
• mips
• hppa
• ia64
• s390

Yes, I think that will do for now.

• Mepis
• Debian
• Fedora

That should take care of things and you can spend the rest of your client's time showing them new and better software instead of fixing old crap.

Testing was not created until Dec 18 2000, which was after potato was released. Prior to testing unstable was just "frozen" for a while. However, there has been a "sid" dist for a lot longer than that. sid was previously used for stuff that was not suitable for release, such as unfinished arch ports.

19 Oct 2000 - RFC: implementation of package pools
13 Dec 2000 - package pools implemented on ftp-master
18 Dec 2000 - testing to be implemented on ftp-master
10 Feb 2001 - Changes to experimental, proposed-updates and orphaned distributions

Testing was not created until Dec 18 2000, which was after potato was released. Prior to testing unstable was just "frozen" for a while. However, there has been a "sid" dist for a lot longer than that. sid was previously used for stuff that was not suitable for release, such as unfinished arch ports.

19 Oct 2000 - RFC: implementation of package pools
13 Dec 2000 - package pools implemented on ftp-master
18 Dec 2000 - testing to be implemented on ftp-master
10 Feb 2001 - Changes to experimental, proposed-updates and orphaned distributions

Testing was not created until Dec 18 2000, which was after potato was released. Prior to testing unstable was just "frozen" for a while. However, there has been a "sid" dist for a lot longer than that. sid was previously used for stuff that was not suitable for release, such as unfinished arch ports.

19 Oct 2000 - RFC: implementation of package pools
13 Dec 2000 - package pools implemented on ftp-master
18 Dec 2000 - testing to be implemented on ftp-master
10 Feb 2001 - Changes to experimental, proposed-updates and orphaned distributions

Testing was not created until Dec 18 2000, which was after potato was released. Prior to testing unstable was just "frozen" for a while. However, there has been a "sid" dist for a lot longer than that. sid was previously used for stuff that was not suitable for release, such as unfinished arch ports.

19 Oct 2000 - RFC: implementation of package pools
13 Dec 2000 - package pools implemented on ftp-master
18 Dec 2000 - testing to be implemented on ftp-master
10 Feb 2001 - Changes to experimental, proposed-updates and orphaned distributions

Check it a little closer and you'll notice that that distribution is empty.

My understanding is that the testing-security package designation is seldom used, instead the packages are uploaded to the unstable distribution, presumably with a priority of high, which means it should enter testing two days later, depending on a few factors which you can read about on How Testing Works. In a sense, therefore, unstable is in some ways more secure than testing.

Also note that the testing distribution is not officially supported by the security team and that use of testing on a server for this reason is not recommended.

Check it a little closer and you'll notice that that distribution is empty.

My understanding is that the testing-security package designation is seldom used, instead the packages are uploaded to the unstable distribution, presumably with a priority of high, which means it should enter testing two days later, depending on a few factors which you can read about on How Testing Works. In a sense, therefore, unstable is in some ways more secure than testing.

Also note that the testing distribution is not officially supported by the security team and that use of testing on a server for this reason is not recommended.

Check it a little closer and you'll notice that that distribution is empty.

My understanding is that the testing-security package designation is seldom used, instead the packages are uploaded to the unstable distribution, presumably with a priority of high, which means it should enter testing two days later, depending on a few factors which you can read about on How Testing Works. In a sense, therefore, unstable is in some ways more secure than testing.

Also note that the testing distribution is not officially supported by the security team and that use of testing on a server for this reason is not recommended.

The packages I like never seem to be available on backports.org.

So build or backport 'em yourself. Builds character and stuff.

http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/

There is a bit of a learning curve, but it's much more satifying to install your own packages than to just give up and throw a tarball into your nicely managed system.

Fixed link: http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/05/msg00431. html

No, x.org will not be in Sarge.

See the news item "Future of Debian X11 Packages" in this issue of Debian Weekly News

Definitely not Sun JDK. It's not DFSG compliant.

PHP 5 probably still has some issues to be worked out, meaning it won't get into stable.

I don't know about the others.

• Interactive interpreter and fast native compiler.
• Parametric polymorphism
• Pattern matching
• Functors
• Highly efficient garbage collection
• Closures (which I find to be more powerful than Objects)
• Functions as first class values
• Derived types - Ocaml is efficient, static and strongly typed, but you can write without explicit typing.
• Time travel debugger (step forward or backward)
• Very fast and efficient code.
• Minimal memory consumption.

IMPORTANT UPDATE: Please show your support for Ceren in this poll of Geek Babes!

Is it any wonder people think Linux users are a bunch of flaming homosexuals when its fronted by obviously gay losers like these?! BSD has a mascot who leaves us in no doubt that this is the OS for real men! If Linux had more hot chicks and gorgeous babes then maybe it would be able to compete with BSD! Hell this girl should be a model!

Linux is a joke as long as it continues to lack sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. Don't you wish the guy in this pic was you? Are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?! Wouldn't this just make your Christmas?! Yes doctor, this uber babe definitely gets my pulse racing! Oh how I envy the lucky girl in this shot! Linux has nothing that can possibly compete. Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Wouldn't this be more liklely to influence your choice of OS?

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Don't be a fag! Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

$Id: ceren.html,v 9.0 2004/08/01 16:01:34 ceren_rocks Exp $

I'd like to try Debian, but I can't find a single, succinct install doc like Gentoo's

Nope, Debian/sarge. The installer really is that efficient. Give it a go! http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

IMPORTANT UPDATE: Please show your support for Ceren in this poll of Geek Babes!

Is it any wonder people think Linux users are a bunch of flaming homosexuals when its fronted by obviously gay losers like these?! BSD has a mascot who leaves us in no doubt that this is the OS for real men! If Linux had more hot chicks and gorgeous babes then maybe it would be able to compete with BSD! Hell this girl should be a model!

Linux is a joke as long as it continues to lack sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. Don't you wish the guy in this pic was you? Are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?! Wouldn't this just make your Christmas?! Yes doctor, this uber babe definitely gets my pulse racing! Oh how I envy the lucky girl in this shot! Linux has nothing that can possibly compete. Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Wouldn't this be more liklely to influence your choice of OS?

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Don't be a fag! Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

$Id: ceren.html,v 9.0 2004/08/01 16:01:34 ceren_rocks Exp $

IMPORTANT UPDATE: Please show your support for Ceren in this poll of Geek Babes!

Is it any wonder people think Linux users are a bunch of flaming homosexuals when its fronted by obviously gay losers like these?! BSD has a mascot who leaves us in no doubt that this is the OS for real men! If Linux had more hot chicks and gorgeous babes then maybe it would be able to compete with BSD! Hell this girl should be a model!

Linux is a joke as long as it continues to lack sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. Don't you wish the guy in this pic was you? Are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?! Wouldn't this just make your Christmas?! Yes doctor, this uber babe definitely gets my pulse racing! Oh how I envy the lucky girl in this shot! Linux has nothing that can possibly compete. Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Wouldn't this be more liklely to influence your choice of OS?

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Don't be a fag! Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

$Id: ceren.html,v 9.0 2004/08/01 16:01:34 ceren_rocks Exp $

Try Debian there's a whole bunch of packages specifically aimed at young children.

Don't run Knoppix on that system. It will be slow as hell and unresponsive. You need at least 512 MB RAM for Knoppix to run decently. I've got 256 MB on this PC with a 700 MHz PIII and Knoppix sucks. It has to read the CD-ROM way too much due to the limited RAM.

I would recommend Mandrake for first time users, but it will suck for you because of the limited resources of your PC. You could try it, but I'm afraid the slow CPU and 4 MB VRAM would hurt a lot. If it were me I would slap Debian on there, but that is NOT a distribution for new people. You can look at the installation manual, but there are a ton of options and many are not well explained. It can be an interesting, if not fun, learning experience, though.

There are other options, but the easiest is by far something like Mandrake. It's easy to install and (relatively) easy to use, but it eats a lot of resources. You should probably try it first, though, because it is (again, relatively) user friendly.

everything is great except for video in presentation. It works somehow, but does not even correctly open .ppt with video inside, though.

everything is great except for video in presentation. It works somehow, but does not even correctly open .ppt with video inside, though.

FreeBSD's port is also amd64. Same with NetBSD and OpenBSD. This is nothing new. There are other reasons why Debian is using amd64 as well. Two of their target platforms (NetBSD and FreeBSD, see here) use amd64 internally, as listed above.

Although LKML has appeared to agree on x86-64 the folks over at Debian appear to have gone the other way and name the arch amd64.

Although LKML has appeared to agree on x86-64 the folks over at Debian appear to have gone the other way and name the arch amd64.