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Makes as much sense as...
This makes about as much sense as when the Clinton administration opened trade with China by personally promising reforms in Chinese government and an increase in Chinese demand for American cars and products, leading to an increase in manufacturing jobs. Yep, makes perfect sense.
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Re:Chinese Political Prisoners too?
Usually when people (or corporations) rant against "slavery", they are ranting against "white slavery" or prostitution. Like the article says; "... intervention and rescue of people being held, forced to work or provide sex against their will...". Of course these same people are in denial of the fact that many people deliberately get into "sexual slavery" (i.e. prostitution) because the money is good. Of course, there will be people coercing their employees, just like in the industrial sector.
Too bad all (or at least most) of the talk about "slavery" is only about prostitution. Too bad, because a lot of large corporations like the Fox television network use Chinese prison slaves to make novelty products for distribution in the United States (like Homer Simpson slippers).
Not to mention that industrial slavery is rampant in North America. It's a crime that nobody in the Conservative movement wants to talk about.
Additional References:
The Virgin Trade
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Re:Too bad
You mean a map with targets like this one?
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253055&kaid=127&subid=171
Democratic Leadership Committee 2004.
And they STILL haven't taken it down. For shame!
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Re:Business as usual in US politics
When I say this, I say it with this intent:
The united states would become every bit as despotic as china, and just as rife with abuses, should it no longer be necessary for our government to placate the populace. (Something that is quickly being manifest with eroded liberties and freedoms even as we sit here and argue about it.)
You can find a long littany of such "Secret" abuses if you are willing to suspend your belief that the US is a great place to live. Take for instance, the Tuskegee syphilis study, and the more recent study that abused HIV infected orphans on the east coast-- Not to mention what the US government does to soldiers in terms of medical experimentation. (Seriously, look it up.)
The "Velvet Glove" metaphor I use is meant to point out that the US is "Like China", except it "Takes measures to appear softer and more cuddly, so it can delude you into letting your guard down."
China makes no such concession-- They just shoot you. No argument from me there. In the US though, where we are *supposed* to be beholden to higher ideals and ethics (which as pointed out with the Tuskegee study-- and other horrors like it, of which there are many-- are only window dressing for how things actually happen behind closed doors) the government *HAS* to make such concession, or lose face.
It disturbs me greatly how so many good little americans chime in and say how much better the US is compared to China in terms of hipocricy-- when the smelly corpses of victims can be found easily beneath thin layers of soiled propaganda, which scream otherwise.
Of course, we have it so much better here--- I mean, They have flagrant media manipulation and misinformation systems in place... Wait-- So do we. Well... They do prison labor! Wait... So do we...
.. Uhm-- Oh yes! We have fast food! And we can protest from Free Speech zones!Really, the only differences are int he DEGREE of abuse. Something that can change VERY easily.
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Re:What's next?
Try here.
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Re:Piracy clarification
Seriously I feel like no matter what I do Driving, browsing the internet, or taking photographs I feel like at any given moment I'm breaking the law and just waiting for it to be my turn to get caught doing something idiotically illegal.
Western countries are transitioning from a military industrial economy to a jail and criminal justice economy, and that is where corporations and governments make their money on enforcing laws and creating new and tougher laws (copyright, patent, obscenity, drug, think-of-the-children, etc and so on). Ignorance of the law is no excuse so you'd better keep up and have a good attorney ready to help you. If anything feels good or seems intuitively natural to do then there are probably laws against it.
At any given point in time the average person is breaking numerous laws without even knowing it, or on average about three felonies a day. Just be grateful that you haven't been caught yet.
If you are rich and powerful enough you shouldn't have anything to worry about though, because as one United States President once said, "... when the President does it that means that it is not illegal."
Welcome to the New World Order! (same as the Old World Order, but with bigger prisons and more CCTV).
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Re:Just tell us what to think and be done with it
DLC
I wasn't particularly familiar with the DLC, so I went and read the Wikipadia on Wikipadia on DLC and found it puzzling and somewhat discomforting, especially in the wondering about the accuracy of the criticsm section. So then I went to the official website and based on a variety of areas on there the final paragraph of the Wikipedia section of criticism of the DLC appears to be dead on, that the DCL appears to be a corpratism&wight-wing attempt to infest and influence the Democratic party. And then horror of horrors, I came across the Technology & Innovation: Content/Intellectual Property page with this position paper.
Holy fucking batshit, Batman!
The DLC position paper is to:
Exempt media companies from anti-trust law.
Strip the power and control of Fair Use from the courts.
And actually goes so far as to label NORMAL computers as "piracy-enabled" and ...get this... to advocate legislatively mandated special DRM-computers upon us.
Holy fucking batshit, Batman! DL-fucking-C fucking batshit fuckwads!
The DCL should have a god-damn AA at the end. RIAA, MPAA, DLCAA, we all love the fucking-xxAA. It was bad enough when they just bought off the politicians. Now they're looking to literally run the political parties from the inside.
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Re:Just tell us what to think and be done with it
DLC
I wasn't particularly familiar with the DLC, so I went and read the Wikipadia on Wikipadia on DLC and found it puzzling and somewhat discomforting, especially in the wondering about the accuracy of the criticsm section. So then I went to the official website and based on a variety of areas on there the final paragraph of the Wikipedia section of criticism of the DLC appears to be dead on, that the DCL appears to be a corpratism&wight-wing attempt to infest and influence the Democratic party. And then horror of horrors, I came across the Technology & Innovation: Content/Intellectual Property page with this position paper.
Holy fucking batshit, Batman!
The DLC position paper is to:
Exempt media companies from anti-trust law.
Strip the power and control of Fair Use from the courts.
And actually goes so far as to label NORMAL computers as "piracy-enabled" and ...get this... to advocate legislatively mandated special DRM-computers upon us.
Holy fucking batshit, Batman! DL-fucking-C fucking batshit fuckwads!
The DCL should have a god-damn AA at the end. RIAA, MPAA, DLCAA, we all love the fucking-xxAA. It was bad enough when they just bought off the politicians. Now they're looking to literally run the political parties from the inside.
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Re:Just tell us what to think and be done with it
DLC
I wasn't particularly familiar with the DLC, so I went and read the Wikipadia on Wikipadia on DLC and found it puzzling and somewhat discomforting, especially in the wondering about the accuracy of the criticsm section. So then I went to the official website and based on a variety of areas on there the final paragraph of the Wikipedia section of criticism of the DLC appears to be dead on, that the DCL appears to be a corpratism&wight-wing attempt to infest and influence the Democratic party. And then horror of horrors, I came across the Technology & Innovation: Content/Intellectual Property page with this position paper.
Holy fucking batshit, Batman!
The DLC position paper is to:
Exempt media companies from anti-trust law.
Strip the power and control of Fair Use from the courts.
And actually goes so far as to label NORMAL computers as "piracy-enabled" and ...get this... to advocate legislatively mandated special DRM-computers upon us.
Holy fucking batshit, Batman! DL-fucking-C fucking batshit fuckwads!
The DCL should have a god-damn AA at the end. RIAA, MPAA, DLCAA, we all love the fucking-xxAA. It was bad enough when they just bought off the politicians. Now they're looking to literally run the political parties from the inside.
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Re:The Supreme Court takes a step forward.As far as democrats opposed to securing the borders, you can find several of them here. (Some Republicans on the list, too).
I don't think there are a lot of people that still consider Jimmy Carter representative of a concensus in the Democratic party, but I could be wrong. Whatever the reason, the idea that democrats are weak on national security is pervasive, and I don't think concentrating on distancing themselves from Carter's rantings is going to make much headway in changing that perception.
Here's some further reading for you to consider:
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Re:Democrats have Too Many visions
You and I know that no democrats' program will go anywhere when both houses of congress are controlled by the GOP. That is why you won't hear about them on the news too much. But people have been working hard on ideas and programs if you would only look for them. Try this for size:
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ka.cfm?kaid=139
There are no doubt many other proposals and the problem is
that they can't agree on tactical choices yet. My guess is that they have about 4-5 more months to shape the media sound bites and select simple themes that will poll well.