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It's already been done, several times in fact .

Actually AutoCAD has an integrated lisp interpreter, so you could load Visual Lisp files and edit the source and see the output. There might be other programs like this elsewhere, but I know AutoCad let's you do this. There are lots of Visual Lisp files on the net.

You could also use emacs to do some drawing in SVG format, rendering it using the Emacs SVG mode. You could also write it all in elisp and use an s-expression to xml conversion script in an auto-revert buffer. Whether you would want to do that is of course a wholly different matter.

I will admit to using Aquamacs on OS-X.

+1

And yes, for you vi girls, Emacs does have emulation modes. *sigh*

(defalias 'lobotomize-my-editor 'viper-mode)

Does emacs have a built in web browser?

You mean w3? (Although it's probably fair to say that it's somewhat limited when compared with the likes fo Chrome/Firefox/etc)

Have an RSS reader as well

Yep, Gnus RSS handles this.

Once all this is there, one can browse /. from a good ole vt100 terminal

In a pinch, you can curl http://slashdot.org/ | less. I assume this is how Vim users do it ;-)

Actually it's trivially easy to write some CSS to make Oddmuse look more like a Media Wiki. Example: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/?action=browse;id=CSS;css=/css/pedia.css (You knew about the CSS switching, right?)

...is the decision to go with MW. Seriously. Look at WikiEmacs, then at EmacsWiki. The main problem with WikiEmacs (the MW version) is that you are forced to read the content in order to find what it is you need. Compare that to EmacsWiki: Links are clearly defined, not embedded in a lot of cruft, and describe exactly what it is that the link points to.

I've said this before: MW is overbloated and has a horrible UI, to the point where navigating most MW sites are excruciatingly painful. Anyone who thinks that MW is actually a user-friendly experience that promotes quick and easy navigation and drill-down is obviously a glutton for punishment and knows nothing about proper UI design.

I'm in the same boat. I love EmacsWiki though, and reference it often.
Did work with headless, virtualized Linux nodes accessed via RDP into a Windows server. Everyone's all whining about the security policies, and all.
I slap in a PuTTY distro and Emacs, fix and environment variable, and I'm in there via Tramp Mode like it won't nothin' but a thang.
The other biggie is Org mode, a full outlining tool that is mainly driven by the tab key. For doing admin work, it pays heap big dividends to take a lot of notes.
I will admit to using Aquamacs on OS-X.
And yes, for you vi girls, Emacs does have emulation modes. *sigh*

I'm in the same boat. I love EmacsWiki though, and reference it often.
Did work with headless, virtualized Linux nodes accessed via RDP into a Windows server. Everyone's all whining about the security policies, and all.
I slap in a PuTTY distro and Emacs, fix and environment variable, and I'm in there via Tramp Mode like it won't nothin' but a thang.
The other biggie is Org mode, a full outlining tool that is mainly driven by the tab key. For doing admin work, it pays heap big dividends to take a lot of notes.
I will admit to using Aquamacs on OS-X.
And yes, for you vi girls, Emacs does have emulation modes. *sigh*

I'm in the same boat. I love EmacsWiki though, and reference it often.
Did work with headless, virtualized Linux nodes accessed via RDP into a Windows server. Everyone's all whining about the security policies, and all.
I slap in a PuTTY distro and Emacs, fix and environment variable, and I'm in there via Tramp Mode like it won't nothin' but a thang.
The other biggie is Org mode, a full outlining tool that is mainly driven by the tab key. For doing admin work, it pays heap big dividends to take a lot of notes.
I will admit to using Aquamacs on OS-X.
And yes, for you vi girls, Emacs does have emulation modes. *sigh*

would much prefer a modifyer key

Couldn't agree more. Turning Caps Lock into Ctrl is one of the best things you can do for yourself.

This page has a long list of how to do that for most environments:
http://emacswiki.org/emacs/MovingTheCtrlKey

Note that for Windows, it's probably easiest to use SharpKeys, which that page doesn't mention.
http://www.randyrants.com/sharpkeys/

Of course, since you can now run vi in emacs then emacs is not just an operating system but can also be used as an editor.

Don't forget Zork, Enchanter and other Z-machine games.

No, because emacsclient is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

No. It's the best thing since emacs. Wouldn't make any sense for it to exist before emacs.

Did you ever feel that "emacs -nw" takes a while to start?

No, because emacsclient is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Launch an Emacs server at startup and then instantly attach to it when you want to edit something.

It's been done.

Actually the only thing emacs is missing is an interface more like VI.

(insert gameshow Bzzzzt)

http://emacswiki.org/emacs/VimMode

* You can make the menus in emacs display whatever option or function you want. Also, ido-ubiquitious mode will give you a fuzzy search on a meta-x. So if you can't remember the keyboard shortcut, perhaps you can remember (or guess) some part of the name of the function that does what you need, and quickly find it (with tab completion and everything) - probably even more quickly than you would by searching a menu.

* http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CuaMode

* Emacs 24 at least (less so in previous versions) has some very pretty themes (tango, misterioso, dichromacy, etc). I've actually grown fond of the aesthetics of emacs now. I used to loathe the look and feel of it too.

And some more points - it might be clear now, but pretty much any complaint or thing you can think of that you don't like about emacs - there's a damn good chance somebody out there has thought the same thing, and written some lisp to change it. With the new package.el being integrated into emacs 24, chances are you can grab the lisp package you need right from inside emacs.

Oh, and emacs has org-mode. Emacs is worth learning just for that alone.

If you like the undo stack, Undo Tree will blow your mind.

(global-set-key [f5] 'call-last-kbd-macro)
(global-set-key [(control f5)] (lambda () (interactive)
(if defining-kbd-macro
(kmacro-end-macro nil)
(kmacro-start-macro nil))))

while anything that needs a counter I take care of with repeat-insert

Like C scope and Emacs, http://emacswiki.org/emacs/CScopeAndEmacs ? The "Find functions calling this function" option?

Behold, the horror.

Behold, the horror.

Behold, the horror.

Pshaw, antiquated solutions from a simpler time. The one true path lies on the road to EviL

It does: Vimpulse/Viper

Doctor Who?

So much for the world. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ViperMode

...but can it edit text yet?

Well... yes... sort-of. But why go with key-emulation when you can have the real thing?

(grin)

Not defending the OP's lame jab, but as a web developer doing work with rails, I can say I'd rather use emacs than a lot of the IDEs out there. With various minor modes most editing/navigation becomes really convenient. Granted, not everything is perfect (formatting gets screwy when trying to auto-indent with embedded html stuff) but I'd still rather use emacs than something bloated like eclipse or obnoxious and OSX only like textmate.

There is definitely plenty to be said about emacs being an extensible editor. I've done a bit of emacs lisp coding and despite the dynamic scope annoyances, it's really fantastically powerful to be able to easily extend your editor's functionality.

It's funny, everyone at my work develops on macs and I can't stand it... I work within linux environments (slackware at home and ubuntu on my laptop) and I wouldn't have it any other way. Everything from the keyboard layout to the stupid "this is the only way to do it and we made it easy for you, retard" mac philosophy annoys me to no end.

Bah. Parenthesis matching is absolutely nothing compared to Paredit http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ParEdit

Scroll down the the bit about emulating the vi '%' function. I added this to my .emacs file early in the decade and can't live without it now.

That was my fault for misreading the question. SmartTabs is probably best for a "tabs everywhere" approach that degrades gracefully on other editors, regardless of tab width.

EMACS on Android? Here you go: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsOnAndroid
Though I prefer vi and sed.

Or the mythical sages of Emacs configuration left their caves once and enlightened us all.

I yet to see a single Emacs user who has written the .init.el her/himself - not grabbed some decade old copy off the net.

It's probably just me, but these statements seem contradictory.

Seriously, emacs users are actually a really helpful bunch, check out the emacs wiki for instance. Or consider the amount of effort that's gone into making the customization system (M-x customize) easy for both end users to use and emacs-lisp developers to incorporate into their extensions. Or the quality (and price!) of the Emacs manual, Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp, or Emacs Lisp Reference Manual.

Emacs users might be perceived as elitist or something, but the feeling I've always had is that it's a community that strives to be welcoming and not holier-than-thou.

Emacs users can find the relevant package here with screenshots and demonstration Youtube video.

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ZenCoding ...and here it is for emacs. I've only seen this mentioned once or twice before, but it does make things quite a bit quicker. Work a lot better than my highlight/middle click copy/paste method ;p

no editor can actually auto-indent Python properly

O RLY?

There's also http://www.viemu.com/ (it costs $$$, but if you are forced to use VisualStudio...) and http://ideavim.sourceforge.net/ (free plug-in for IntelliJ IDEA). And for people who use EMACS as their IDE, there's http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ViperMode :-)

Is there anything Emacs can't do? :-)

Not yet, but patches welcome.

(Unless you count "M-x shell")

*ahem*

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/WoMan

Yeah. Emacs is the oldest software-only complete virtualization system, and much more proven than VMware. Although it only runs lisp machine code.

Ok, I'll have to go, see my "M-x doctor".

P.S.: Don't make the error, thinking that this went over my head, when it went over yours. ;)

Have you heard about CUA mode?

Ethan

Unless I can open a terminal, run something "apt-get install emacs" and have it install off of the installation media then the OS vendor is clearly trying to hide it

To install apt-get or .deb packages on Macs with Fink or Macports can be used to install .rpm packages. It's recommended that both Fink and Macports NOT be used on the same Mac. Here's how emacs can be installed on Macs.

all of this fanboy nonsense about MacOSX being Unix is just nonsense.

Is it just as easy to install Unix programs in Solaris or Iris? What about AIX? Tru64? BSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, or NetBSD? If not then according to you they aren't Unices either

Falcon

Firefox is gonna be like the Emacs Operating System ... only bigger

Yep, Emacs already has this.

Hopefully your glibc is washing the dishes in the emacs kitchen sink.

Is there a Python clone that uses C style formating?

See http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/PyIndent

So what you do is type in Word and then copy/paste it into LaTeX for the formating and everything else.

Are you insane or trolling? All reasonable text editors have spell checkers.

MSWord is not the answer. Ever.

If we consider external packages too:

The QuickSilver for Emacs: anything.el

Take a look to http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsNiftyTricks.