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Re:Trump caves for peanuts
https://www.npr.org/2018/09/13...
https://www.fb.org/news/farm-b...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/c...
And now we have a 12 billion dollar fund of taxpayer money to pay for a small amount of farmers losses...which they're only losing because of this trade war bullshit. Try to spin it however you want, but this entire thing was Trump being a whiny little bitch and doing potentially severe damage to farmers in this country, and wasting more taxpayer dollars. It's not a good outcome, it's a fucking bad outcome because of stupid fucks like you. The remaining issue is Trump is still a fucking idiot, and sycophants like you still exist sucking his dick every chance you get. -
Re:Yes!
Oh horseshit. Do your research. 97 percent of farms in the US are family owned and operated. 2.2 million of them. Average farm family income is about 70K
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Re:Fuck that
Care to back up your claim that labor is a significant portion of food prices?
Fair enough.
Here's a few hits from Google. This is interesting because they both agree on the data, but draw different conclusions. The first one says eliminating immigrant workers would result in a 5% cost increase in the stores, which is devastating.
http://www.fb.org/index.php?ac...The other says the same thing, around 3.6%, but thinks it is a good idea anyway:
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfor...I find lots of articles claiming that organic is more expensive because it is more labor intensive, but few numbers to say how much. So the impact may be much greater there.
Overall, I've never met a rich farmer before. That's not to say there aren't large multinational corporations who buy and sell food profitably. But that is a long way from farmers. Farmers often only survive because of government subsidies. Today, family farms are vanishing because a strip mall is more profitable per acre. Some family farms vanish because the estate can't pay the inheritance taxes. It's a tough industry.
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Re:A question on food availability
I was curious about that. Here's a bit of quick googling: http://www.fb.org/index.php/index.php?action=newsroom.fastfacts
For good or bad, US farmers are incredibly efficient. EU numbers show that EU farmers outnumber US farmers 6 to 1. Meanwhile, the EU is a net importer of food and the US exports a third of production.
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Re:Oh please you old windbagYou are naive or deliberately acting the fool.
Access to information is what elevates us above cavemen. The net may be full of filth but it's also full of real information, even vital information—on geography, health, science, and even entertainment. The more time I spend in rural areas, the more I am awed by the sad paucity of information available to people who actually would like to learn about the world outside their town. Increasing numbers of critical documents are available online. Broadband affects quality of life and encourages growth of business.
Now, if you'd said "someone might not get his WoW fix, oh noes" I probably would have agreed with you.
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Fossil fuels - fertilizer - ethanolCrops that can be used to produce ethanol are highly likely to use fertilizer in their production.
Fertilizer is likely to be used in the production of these crops.
From: http://utfb.fb.org/Index/nitrogen.htm/
Natural gas is a primary feed stock in the production of anhydrous ammonia (82% nitrogen). Anhydrous ammonia (NH3) in turn can be applied directly to the soil or utilized as a feed stock for other nitrogen fertilizers such as urea (45% nitrogen) and ammonium nitrate (34% nitrogen). It takes an average of 33.5 MMBtus of natural gas to produce one ton of NH3. Consequently, the cost of producing NH3 has jumped from approximately $70 a ton a year ago to $295 a ton in December, 2000.So, isn't the price of ethanol highly related to the price of oil and gas? It's not clear to me that the cited study took this into account. (I didn't read it...)
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Re:Electricity from Waste
Food VS Fuel? Does that mean we should stop doing this?
For the lazy clickers:
"The preeminent source of nitrogen fertilizer is synthesis of ammonia from the hydrogen of natural gas and the nitrogen of the atmosphere, a source without obvious limit."
Of course if you believe the 'without obvious limit' part than this might sober ya up. Seems like we're already wasting fuel on food.