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Re:Even though Fedora is my desktop of choice by Anonymous Coward · 2010-05-25 08:50 · Score: 0 · on Fedora 13 Is Out

You plug in a printer and it is installed. How much simpler and straightforward can it get?

Torrent Download page by ac7xc · 2010-05-25 08:09 · Score: 1 · on Fedora 13 Is Out

http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/

Re:Direct Link to Changelog by fearlezz · 2010-05-25 07:20 · Score: 0, Redundant · on Fedora 13 Is Out

And here is the direct torrent link:
http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/

Torrent by crunch_ca · 2010-05-25 06:50 · Score: 1 · on Fedora 13 Is Out

http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/

Re:Sweet by Jim+Hall · 2010-05-25 06:30 · Score: 4, Informative · on Fedora 13 Is Out

Now I begin my bi annual ritual of backing up my data, and making a new live CD

Why create a CD? It's better to use LiveUSB Creator to put the LiveCD bootable image onto a USB flash drive. There's even a nice GUI, works on Linux (of course) or Windows. Here's the How-to..

And 1GB flash drives are cheap and plentiful these days ... if you can even buy a flash drive that small anymore.

Re:is it faster? by asto21 · 2010-05-25 06:25 · Score: 5, Informative · on Fedora 13 Is Out

Parent is talking about the Presto Plugin for yum. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeaturePresto

Direct Link to Changelog by ProdigyPuNk · 2010-05-25 06:09 · Score: 4, Informative · on Fedora 13 Is Out

Here's the direct link to new features for desktop users:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/13/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_in_Fedora_for_Desktop_Users.html

Re:xCAT by Daengbo · 2010-05-08 03:14 · Score: 1 · on Diskless Booting For the Modern Age

gPXE (the Etherboot project) is used in Fedora's BFO project (based on BKO). If you have a local server, that is a cool project

I'm sorry that PXE and Etherboot get no love around here. I've been using Etherboot since ~2000, when it was the common boot method for LTSP (and K12LTSP). EB and gPXE are awesome projects that show how much you can do with so little space to work with.

When network booting several computers, I've found the boot to be much faster over the network than locally once the first computer is booted and the server has the files in memory. I wasn't even using GbE.

Re:Been using Kubuntu 10.04... by jc79 · 2010-04-29 07:02 · Score: 1 · on Ubuntu Linux 10.04 Review (Lucid Lynx)

Fedora is.

Re:Related Timing? by darkpixel2k · 2010-04-24 09:59 · Score: 1 · on Ubuntu Linux Claims 12,000 Cloud Deployments

Plymouth originated as a RedHat technology, so expect to see it there too. Wouldn't be surprised to find it in the next Debian too--it's where everybody else is going. The ability to "degrade" back to simple text mode is supposed to be there. I expect that months from now, part of the standard set of tricks every Linux server admin knows will be how to force Plymouth into text mode. I believe this works:

plymouth-set-default-plugin text

/usr/libexec/plymouth/plymouth-update-initrd

...presuming that you can get your server booted via single user mode or via rescue disk to execute the commands. Not sure if there's a grub-based solution here that always works; adding "nomodeset" is the first thing to try.

Turns out there's something weird going on between my two fakeraid cards (which I use in JBOD mode so I can get extra SATA ports onto this older motherboard) and Ubuntu. 8.04 works great, everything else fails, drops disks, or core dumps. Debian apparently has no problem.

Re:Related Timing? by greg1104 · 2010-04-24 07:14 · Score: 4, Informative · on Ubuntu Linux Claims 12,000 Cloud Deployments

Plymouth originated as a RedHat technology, so expect to see it there too. Wouldn't be surprised to find it in the next Debian too--it's where everybody else is going. The ability to "degrade" back to simple text mode is supposed to be there. I expect that months from now, part of the standard set of tricks every Linux server admin knows will be how to force Plymouth into text mode. I believe this works:

plymouth-set-default-plugin text

/usr/libexec/plymouth/plymouth-update-initrd

...presuming that you can get your server booted via single user mode or via rescue disk to execute the commands. Not sure if there's a grub-based solution here that always works; adding "nomodeset" is the first thing to try.

Re:centos tracker! WAS Re:Direct download links by srvivn21 · 2010-04-23 07:14 · Score: 1 · on Red Hat Releases RHEL 6 Public Beta 1

Red Hat didn't feel like releasing a torrent, since they don't have a tracker lying around.

I think, had they put some effort into it, they probably could have found one.

Accessing copyrighted material - how to do it by SgtChaireBourne · 2010-04-09 02:09 · Score: 1 · on Oz Pirate Party Tells the Elderly How To Bypass the Net Filter

We may soon need similar lessons here in the UK when we want to access those filtered sites suspected of potentially hosting copyrighted material. Damn, that sounds sad.

Hate to break it to you but most web sites you could ever even think of accessing will be hosting copyrighted material. That's right not just potentially hosting copyrighted material but actually hanging up copyrighted material for anyone to download.

To avoid getting copyrighted material, you'd have to find a country that did not sign the Berne Convention treaty, but even then the material might be under copyright. Alternately, even the countries in the Berne Convention treaty might have material online that has been made Public Domain either because the copyright expire or the rights holder (not the creator) put it into the public domain. Even then you'll have to download (and read) pages of copyrighted information to get at the PD stuff.

Alternately you can just download as much copyrighted material as you want. Try starting from these sites:

And remember, there's more where that came from.

Re:Fedora is not more popular than Ubuntu by nils · 2010-04-08 19:26 · Score: 1 · on Ubuntu Claims 12 Million Users — Before Lucid

It seems the maps aren't maintained in the wiki anymore, but rather here: http://fedoraproject.org/maps/

Fedora Stats by MSG · 2010-04-07 12:38 · Score: 1 · on Ubuntu Claims 12 Million Users — Before Lucid

I don't believe that Fedora anywhere claims to have 24 million users. Rather, they publish that a total of around 21 million IPs have connected to their repositories since Fedora 6. None of their published statistics support the belief that there are anywhere near that number of users, currently.

The difference between Fedora and Ubuntu, though, is that Fedora is completely transparent about their user estimates:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics

Ubuntu's numbers come from God-only-knows where.

Re:Fedora is not more popular than Ubuntu by gbjbaanb · 2010-04-07 11:13 · Score: 1 · on Ubuntu Claims 12 Million Users — Before Lucid

who said anything about the count being personal computers only.

As for Fedora, the link in TFA (yes, I had to go read TFA to check you were wrong, thanks for that) counts the number of Fedora installs by tracking IPs making yum requests, downloads, opt-in phone-home calls, (they recognise requests from behind NAT and proxies as being offset by users with dynamic IPs, though they say they think corporate users behind NAT make up a larger number than personal users)

For example, they get 50,000 direct downloads from unique IPs per week. Not bad.

The most interesting thing I saw was their maps showing the last 7 days - x86_64 was a little stronger in the west, and x86 stronger in eastern Europe, India and China. OK, not that surprising, but interesting nevertheless - 64bit seems to be more popular.

Re:Fedora is not more popular than Ubuntu by gbjbaanb · 2010-04-07 11:13 · Score: 1 · on Ubuntu Claims 12 Million Users — Before Lucid

who said anything about the count being personal computers only.

As for Fedora, the link in TFA (yes, I had to go read TFA to check you were wrong, thanks for that) counts the number of Fedora installs by tracking IPs making yum requests, downloads, opt-in phone-home calls, (they recognise requests from behind NAT and proxies as being offset by users with dynamic IPs, though they say they think corporate users behind NAT make up a larger number than personal users)

For example, they get 50,000 direct downloads from unique IPs per week. Not bad.

The most interesting thing I saw was their maps showing the last 7 days - x86_64 was a little stronger in the west, and x86 stronger in eastern Europe, India and China. OK, not that surprising, but interesting nevertheless - 64bit seems to be more popular.

for memory by h00manist · 2010-04-04 06:27 · Score: 1 · on Open Source Deduplication For Linux With Opendedup

vmware does share memory pages. KSM appears to have that now too, haven't read much about it - unix-linux uses this very well in multiuser, especially in LTSP, where users running the same program share the memory. I don't know if windows terminal server does it nowadays - it didn't when I used it, several versions ago.

Non-issue really. by Anonymous Coward · 2010-03-26 11:01 · Score: 0 · on Nvidia Drops Support For Its Open Source Driver

I use an Nvidia video card with the Nouveau driver on my desktop. Sure, it's not as fast as Nvidia's closed source driver but it works well for me. Fedora 13 will have a Nouveau release with out of the box 3D acceleration and DisplayPort support too.

Re:Consider Steam by betterunixthanunix · 2010-03-14 15:47 · Score: 1 · on What Aspects of Open Source Projects Do You Avoid?

"Windows has several app stores for games alone"

Note that I said "apps store" as Apple is pushing it; Microsoft is not pushing any apps stores, and so the only ones you see in Windows are for specific markets, like games. The distros in Fedora or Ubuntu are much more general -- not just games, but also office suits, browsers, various little utilities, programming environments, libraries, plugins, and many other categories. Apple's "apps store" is similarly general, but Apple refuses to allow certain software into the apps store, including any software that would allow a user to install software from other sources (unlike a Linux distro, where such software would commonly be called a "text editor").

"The difference is that the repository model used by popular GNU/Linux operating environments is intended for use with free software or at least freely redistributable software. Distros like Fedora and Ubuntu currently lack anything like Steam, a repository of non-free commercial software."

Well, there is this:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureCodecBuddy

Mainly, Fedora wants to avoid pushing non-libre software whenever possible, since the aim of Fedora is to be a libre distro; CodecBuddy was an attempt to make a prudent compromise, since users were turned off to the idea of not having MP3 support (and others).

I prefer Fedora by Jim+Hall · 2010-02-20 06:38 · Score: 3, Interesting · on Which Linux For Non-Techie Windows Users?

Speaking for myself, I prefer Fedora Linux. I find the look and feel is set up to be pretty close to Windows, enough so that sometimes people who look over my shoulder and see me using it assume I'm running Windows. If your family is moving from Windows, this might be a good choice.

Actually, my wife really likes Fedora, and she's a definite non-geek. It's easy enough for her to use, which (for her) is mostly email, web, text processor, and a few other minor apps.

I used to run Linux at work for several years, and ran Fedora. It's got the tools that replicate the functionality of Windows. (Unfortunately, I've been asked to move to Windows, at least for work. Ironically, I find Windows very confusing to use - Linux just seems so much easier to use.)

Check with your distribution by macemoneta · 2010-02-14 05:54 · Score: 4, Interesting · on Linux Not Quite Ready For New 4K-Sector Drives

I know that Fedora seems to have addressed this with parted 2.1.1 and util-linux-ng 2.1. Both are scheduled for Fedora 13, but can be pulled into Fedora 12 by those getting the hardware early.

Check with your distribution by macemoneta · 2010-02-14 05:54 · Score: 4, Interesting · on Linux Not Quite Ready For New 4K-Sector Drives

I know that Fedora seems to have addressed this with parted 2.1.1 and util-linux-ng 2.1. Both are scheduled for Fedora 13, but can be pulled into Fedora 12 by those getting the hardware early.

Re:If there's a need by nxtw · 2010-02-08 16:45 · Score: 1 · on Oracle Drops Sun's Commitment To Accessibility

Since when did decisions by profit maximizing big business have any impact on Open Source Software?

since the 90s at the very latest.

When there is a need, the code will get written.

I think you underestimate the importance of corporate contributions. A more accurate statement would be: "When there is a need, a suitable commercial product will be licensed, or if none is available and the need is sufficient, the code will get written."

Re:Yes, currently running in 2D... by tftp · 2010-02-06 08:23 · Score: 1 · on Red Hat Exchange Is Dead

Your problem. Fedora is and always has been Red Hat's test bed

You're either very young or you have a short memory.

No, turbidostato is correct. Fedora for the entire length of its existence was a testbed. Here is what they say today:

The Fedora Project is sponsored by Red Hat, which invests in our infrastructure and resources to encourage collaboration and incubate innovative new technologies. Some of these technologies may later be integrated into Red Hat products.

The fact that RH did not have a testbed distribution until Fedora doesn't affect Fedora in the slightest.

php-eaccelerator by hey · 2010-02-03 03:18 · Score: 2, Informative · on Facebook's HipHop Also a PHP Webserver

Since php lives in Apache which is always running it makes sense to cache the compiled byte codes.

I like the approach of this:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/php-eaccelerator?_csrf_token=7bb450c274970e7f6d6ece15a4194c5feb114809

Fedora Multiseat by celticmonkey · 2010-01-28 11:22 · Score: 1 · on 2 Displays and 2 Workspaces With Linux and X?

The closest thing I can think of is Fedora's multi-seat project:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Multiseat

It allows one computer with multiple displays to have multiple X sessions. Unfortunately it doesn't ship with the latest release. And I don't think it supports sliding an application window from one session to another.

Re:Unfortunately, applications still behind the cu by zdzichu · 2010-01-24 20:12 · Score: 1 · on IPv4 Free Pool Drops Below 10%, 1.0.0.0/8 Allocated

IPv6 for NFS is available since Linux 2.6.30, according to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NFSClientIPv6

Re:Let's look closer by Nevyn · 2010-01-24 16:49 · Score: 1 · on 75% of Linux Code Now Written By Paid Developers

> Red Hat is really a distributor. What original products have they developed?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RedHatContributions

Mac — and skip the VM by mattdm · 2010-01-19 16:19 · Score: 4, Interesting · on 100% Free Software Compatible PC Launches

Or run Linux natively. I have a slightly dated 24" iMac with an ATI Radeon GPU. I ran OS X for a few days and then got frustrated with the limited and over-intrusive UI, and with the tediousness of dealing with the various software ports projects. (The latter aren't awful, and I don't mean to disparage the people working on this, but it's nothing like just having yum or apt-get already there and just waiting to install thousands of excellent free packages.)

So I installed rEFIt, and shrunk OS X down to a tiny partition I never boot into. Instead, I run Fedora 12 with all open source / free software drivers, including sound and 3D-accelerated video. (I think maybe the webcam doesn't work, but I don't really care.) Definitely the nicest Linux workstation I've ever had.

Re:Use an Outbound Firewall by lfaraone · 2010-01-11 05:06 · Score: 1 · on Malicious App In Android Market

I wish this functionality was built into the OS, rather than having to do it manually (for example, a way to disallow internet access during installation) -- but at least it's doable on Android. I don't think any other phone platforms give this level of permission separation or control. I'm not so sure that app review would really fix the overall problem; it might catch the obviously-malicious phishing apps like in this story, but I bet that the app auditors' opinion on what is a privacy violation differs greatly from my own.

Maybe you're thinking of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rainbow, which implements http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Bitfrost, which does exactly what you're describing. It's currently in Debian ( http://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/rainbow ) and Fedora ( http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=7262 ).

Re:Let me translate by nxtw · 2010-01-06 07:01 · Score: 2, Informative · on Ubuntu "Memberships" Questioned

You don't just pay a fee, but you actually help. It's like working in the soup kitchen versus giving money to the homeless shelter.

I would imagine paying for Red Hat Enterprise Linux or SUSE Linux Enterprise has a much bigger impact than helping Ubuntu directly. Red Hat is a big contributor to extremely important projects such as the Linux kernel, GCC, glibc, Gtk, and GNOME. They (or companies they have since acquired) created GFS, LVM2, and KVM, and they maintain a lot of other projects that make up any modern Linux distribution.

I can't find a similar list for Novell, but they are the second biggest contributor to the Linux kernel.

Re:network it by jon3k · 2009-12-28 10:06 · Score: 1 · on Best Filesystem For External Back-Up Drives?

Fedora ... servers? Yikes.

You realize you'll need to do a distro upgrade in a minimum of 13 months after you deploy them, right?

If you want an RPM based distro I'd seriously consider checking out CentOS.

Re:This has taken too long by chromatic · 2009-12-06 12:31 · Score: 2, Informative · on The Perl 6 Advent Calendar

[Does] anyone besides debian-experimental bother?

Fedora 12 includes Rakudo Perl 6.

For comparison, Fedora 13 will likely include Python 3.

A study into kernel documentation... by Sits · 2009-12-03 05:55 · Score: 1 · on Is Linux Documentation Lacking?

...resulted in the author saying that it's quite disparate and unwieldy. The report was titled "Where Linux Kernel Documentation Hides" and was written by Rob Landley. So things aren't much better for kernel programmers either...

Re:Of course it is. by eqisow · 2009-12-03 04:09 · Score: 1 · on Is Linux Documentation Lacking?

I don't know, the Fedora project has really good documentation in my opinion.

Of course there isn't a problem by TSHTF · 2009-11-18 09:45 · Score: 5, Insightful · on Fedora 12 Lets Users Install Signed Packages, Sans Root Privileges

Certainly there can't be a problem here, says the Fedora team. According to the release notes, there are 15,000 packages which can be installed by these unprivileged users. That's a lot of fscking code -- surely some of it is poorly written. Consider this scenario: Package X suffers a critical {local, remote} root vulnerability. If the vulnerability isn't public, any local user (and maybe remote ones too!) has root. If the vulnerability is public, there is often a long window between downstream fixes and Fedora fixes. In either case, this is a security issue. The Fedora team really should have put this in the release notes and reconsider this implementation in the first place.

Re:Legacy in 2 Years Time? by PitaBred · 2009-11-18 06:14 · Score: 1 · on AMD Radeon HD 5970 Dual-GPU Card Sweeps Benchmarks

Except that the open-source drivers are more functional than the fglrx drivers in everything except raw 3D speed. Really... compiz works better, video overlays, everything except gaming. And the gaming isn't bad, especially given recent updates. Why not try one of the Fedora 12 live CD's and see if they perform alright? Especially the games spin: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/games/

More Torrents == Faster Fedora12 Downloads by SgtChaireBourne · 2009-11-17 07:23 · Score: 4, Informative · on Fedora 12 Released