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Ubuntu Linux 10.04 Review (Lucid Lynx)
JimLynch writes "The open source world has been eagerly anticipating the final release of Ubuntu Linux 10.04, and now it's finally here. Canonical has been working extremely hard and it shows in the quality of this release."
Except it isn't released yet. On hold due to a bug in install process that doesn't detect dual boot set ups properly...
Release party on IRC server: irc.freenode.net #ubuntu-release-party
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My Dell Mini 9 has been hungering for 10.04...and now its appetite shall be satiated.
PS: I think TFA has already been slashdotted...
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... and I've given up. Between the backport madness, button relocation debate, purplification, and a complete disassociation with the community I did something which I didn't think I'd ever do. After 10 years of .deb distros, I'm running Fedora.
And you know what? It's nice. F12 is stable; yum seems to address all of those rpm complaints of old. I don't have strange oddities, there's actually SELINUX support. F12 works so well that in 10 years of running Linux I find myself (for the first time) in the situation where there is a beta out of the new Fedora and I haven't installed it as my system works flawlessly (I did boot the live CD and F13 beta is looking good too - I just don't want to upgrade until its baked).
Because there are just too many regular Lynx's out there.
Actually, not currently as the home page issues a warning about a "in development" version for lucid ...
btw, the review seems to provide little more than the press release : what about bugs ? speed ? HW compatibility and performance besides boot times - it's an OS ! - , system configuration apps, boot splash with nvidia proprietary drivers ..., what about other sister as mint, Kubuntu, or Lubuntu)
I hope someone sees that the naming scheme is going to run into trouble when they reach the letter 'X'.
What is the best they can do? Ubuntu 24.0 (Xanthic Xerus) ?
This Ubuntu release is 10.04 LTS (for "Long Term Support").
Getting the RC version or the latest daily ISO and upgrading from that is functionally equivalent to waiting for the final ISO to be released and installing it.
Anyone updating their packages from a recent enough beta or RC of Ubuntu will end up having the equivalent of the release.
In case it's not clear, it makes sense NOT to wait for the final release.
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Perhaps this will be the Ubuntu install were I have no problems like everyone else claims. Every freaking version I try installing I always seem to run into issues, and not of them are easy fixes. Oh you want native resolution fine but you will need to give up GNOME, Unless you want to install it via TAR Balls. Oh you want sound sure... But this only worked in some apps. Oh what is the fix for that. Go into you etc file and add some cryptic commands that are not in any man page.
But if say there are problems with Ubuntu and there are things that OS X or Windows handles a lot better. Be prepared for a fight and everyone calling you an idiot.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.
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Why is slashdot reporting a story when there has been no official announcement?
Does slashdot do this to get the story out quicker to get ad revenue before readers get the news on another website? Is competition that intense that you have to resort to putting out an article even if untrue?
I have been using Ubuntu 10.04 since alpha and will have to say that it has been rock solid.
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I know Kubuntu is the redheaded stepchild of Ubuntu, but you should try out Kubuntu 10.04. I don't know how I lived without tabbed windows.
For those of you curious... The latest build of 10.04 still has not fixed the Network bug where you can not map Sabma network drives.
Such as pain in that ass as this did once work in 9.10.
-Will P.
.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-ubuntu-10.04/
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You can either change them manually through gconf-editor or use one of the non-new themes.
.... where they belong?
And the Lord said, "Window decorations must always reside on the right hand side of the window!" And so it was done.
Of course you can change this. It's Linux, you can change anything. Here's a guy explaining how.
Pretty good is actually pretty bad.
Well, this release has everything, except quality. Unless quality is new art. Using 10.04 as a Desktop is serious pain. I hope that it will be at least as stable as windows soon as currently I have to answer myself everyday "So, mr linux lover guy - what is the reason you are using linux as a desktop again?"
.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.
just use the "Human" theme (that's the default in 9.10)... the buttons moved are only part of the NEW THEMES.
.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.
Simply copy and paste this line into your terminal: /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string “menu:minimize,maximize,close,spacer”
gconftool-2 --set
Go into gconf-editor, look into the metacity preferences, and there is an option to adjust button order.
IIRC (sorry, I'm at work on a Win7 machine), the new default is
close,maximize,minimize:
change it to
menu:minimize,maximize,close
and you get the old button order back. Works fine.
"People who think they know everything are very annoying to those of us who do."-Mark Twain
BUT:
Nowadays everything is late.
It is going, I think, to be a worthwhile upgrade with its 3 year timeframe.
As for the menu widgets - I actually like it that way and I find myself annoyed that Chrome doesn't follow the rules. Sorry.
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Not true. I was running my own custom theme (loosely based on Clearlooks) from 9.10 and on upgrade it forced my buttons to the left, requiring me to change it back.
"People who think they know everything are very annoying to those of us who do."-Mark Twain
.... to the right side of the window title bar where they belong? If it's not possible, I will not budge from 9.10 thank you very much.
http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+move+buttons+back
More than a few...
This one is the original. http://lifehacker.com/5500577/move-ubuntus-window-buttons-back-to-the-right
And this one looks quite easy. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-ubuntu-10.04/
Now you can upgrade.
I know I could have googled. Half the reason for my question was to protest this ridiculous design decision. The other half was to actually find out how to do it.
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This might be the year of the linux desktop!
Actually, it moves them globally. Or it did. It was bugged. I have not tested to see if it is fixed.
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As of now (14:45 GMT) there's no official release of the Lucid Lynx!
Maybe Computers will never be as intelligent as Humans.
For sure they won't ever become so stupid. [VR-1988]
NO CA^%&*%&.&#..
Moving the buttons will force you to use the other side of your brain more often. Which then will make you a more thoughtful, kinder, and loving person. Just look at the difference between Steve Jobs and Steve Ballmer.
Do you really want to end up throwing chairs at people?
You aren't being biblical enough.
[Charlton Heston voice]
And thus the Lord, who is our God, the God of Israel, spake, saying " Woe unto him and unto his seventh generation, he who puts his window decorations on the left side, for they are an abomination unto Me. Thou shalt offer burnt sacrifices as guilt offering to atone for your sin and then henceforth always have your window decorations on the right" and thus it was written
Now that's biblical
It can be changed on KDE (and I see in the other replies it can be done in gnome as well), but it shouldn't need to be.
Why? Taco doesn't seem to think it necessary.
copy 'n paste between applications in gnome without using right-click menus?
I've been a Ubuntu user for about 4 years now. A couple of weeks ago I went through the painful process of migrating all of my machines back to Fedora & CentOS. Why? Ubuntu lets people report bugs, but bugs can hang around for years without being fixed. Ubuntu is focused way too much on pushing forward and not paying enough attention to stabilizing a release or fixing long standing bugs. At least Fedora has the secondary mission of getting new technologies stable for upcoming RHEL releases. So far, so good. Fedora is not without its problems but they seem to have their stuff together better than Ubuntu these days.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-ubuntu-10.04/
Or, you know, you could use this thing called a search engine. I hear "Google" is pretty good, though I've never tried it myself.
Anyone with a mirror?
What's the point of the upgrade, or rather, what does it give me? I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 right now, and I've been installing the software and other updates as they come. What changes from one major version of Ubuntu to another? Obviously it's something more than just updated versions of all my software packages. What is it?
Well since the link is slashdotted, maybe a list of the new features will be useful:
So it looks like solid improvement for the most part, nothing really revolutionary, but solid.
When my Gateway LT3201u with its Athlon 64 and positively antiquated ATI graphics can actually come up in X11, it's ready.
When my Acer Aspire One D250-1165, an incredibly common machine with bog-standard intel chipset, graphics, &c can stay up for more than eight hours without hanging with only the background image displayed, or kernel panicking because some system component (the only stuff running is "official" Ubuntu packages) has consumed all available memory and the system can't spawn new processes, it's ready.
But so far, Lucid is in even worse shape than Karmic was when it was released. I'd be ashamed to have my name associated with Lucid.
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I agree with you, and the most idiotic thing was that the change was submitted literally a minute before gui-freeze so that no-one managed to react in time. Fortunately the fix is quick: /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string :minimize,maximize,close
Alt+F2 or open terminal, paste in
gconftool-2 --set
It's permanent as well.
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Can anyone confirm whether the controversy over Mac-ifying the window buttons applies to the Xubuntu flavor (or Kubuntu for that matter)? I recently made the switch full-time after discovering that XFCE supports everything I care about in Gnome (and then some) while carrying a much lighter footprint. I don't really care what they do to Gnome, I'm just interested in whether those design choices are spilling over into the other flavors as well.
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It /was/ bugged, but it's since been fixed. Try changing your theme again.
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I know I could have googled. [...] The other half was to actually find out how to do it.
It's very easy:
1. Open the browser of your choice
2. Enter "http://www.google.com" in the address bar
3. Hit Enter
4. In the page that appears, enter "ubuntu move buttons back"
5. Hit Enter
You'll be amazed!
Have they fixed the pulse audio clusterfuck yet? How about flash and java working properly out of the box? (being able to watch youtube and hulu without ridiculous installs and configurations should be a serious focus for serving the general user)
FAIL!
"trying to install almost anything is a pain the ass. Copying and pasting code just to install something...
Couldn't Redmond please come up with some new FUD?
Synaptic
...is pulseaudio. That abomination has been nothing but trouble on two separate machines (custom box and a recent Dell Latitude), and no amount of "try this fix/reinstall that/remove/purge" has helped. This is on several consecutive releases. If it's still broken in 10.04, I'm dumping Ubuntu and never looking back. The audio saga has made me seriously consider Red Hat/Fedora again.
I've been using Linux for the better part of a decade, and I am definitely not eagerly awaiting this release. Cannonical doesn't actually do anything, they just package software together. The rest of the open source community are the ones making the updates. You can get these without waiting for these dumb releases.
Why? It's technically true.
Hey - I can't vouch for what it will do to your custom theme... I'm just saying if you *choose* the old Human theme they are still on the right. For the amount of effort it takes - it's not hardly worth the whining I've been seeing online.
You have a dedicated card for exotic video?
Facts have a liberal bias.
"The open source world has been eagerly anticipating the final release of Ubuntu Linux 10.04..."
Had we? I hadn't noticed. I bet you're the kind of person that believes that The World Series and the SuperBowl really are World Championships too.
Canonical has been working extremely hard and it shows in the quality of this release.
Yeah--after upgrading my server which has a standalone boot drive along with 8 other disks that are in a RAID6 array--it completely fails to boot. Plymouth is a joke--why install graphical boot crap on a server? I can't even see the output of fsck which is apparently complaining that my array is corrupted--because the output is hooked into the fscked-up plymouth system. Lame regressions. Funny how the 8.04 recovery CD says the array is just fine. Meh, loaded Debian last weekend, haven't looked back.
Oh--and there's my netbook. After upgrading, the wireless and onboard NIC work intermittently. Most hibernates require a reboot because the wireless and NIC fail to come back up. Unplugging from the AC adapter causes a kernel panic about 60% of the time. Lots of lame regressions. But hey--at least plymouth works on my netbook. I can boot graphically into a flaky distro. It's scheduled to be upgraded to Debian this weekend.
I upgraded my wife's computer even though that BOFH part of my brain was screaming that I was 0 for 2 on 10.04 upgrades. Upgraded her from 9.10 and she immediately lost audio in Firefox along with the sound icon in her systray. Mplayer, totem, and the like all output sound just fine. Just no firefox or sound icon. And I can't seem to get it back. There is no audio panel applet. After a bunch of dorking around, uninstalling things, recompiling other things, I got audio working. Very lame regression.
I'm going to skip upgrading any of our customer systems to 10.04 in light of this. Instead, I'll start migrating to Debian. There doesn't seem to be any mention of 'plymouth' in their packaging system. That makes me feel a lot better.
I know everyone's experiences are different, but this upgrade totally kicked my ass.
Why don't they ever delay the long-term releases by a few weeks or months to put together a truly finished product?
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I'm glad that Shuttleworth truly cares about usability and the desktop experience. Ubuntu has made some great strides and raised the visibility of Linux on the whole. I want Ubuntu to succeed because it carries Linux with it on its back.
That being said, I loathe Gnome and I loathe Ubuntu. Kubuntu's broken packages have really hurt the image of KDE. Ubuntu's packages on the whole tend to be broken. Can they manage one single release without serious issues?
I've told my bosses before, and I'll say it again, I don't trust Ubuntu in the enterprise because Canonical is a small shop trying to manage the largest package repositories they can, drive new features, and live on the bleeding edge at the same time. I applaud their goals, but they're too small to pull it off.
I won't say Red Hat and Novell are without bugs, but I trust Red Hat/Fedora/SLES/openSUSE packages a lot more. If Ubuntu wants to be the face of Linux, I wish it were a better face. Right now Ubuntu continues to make Linux look bad.
Red Hat is the defact standard in many enterprise environments. Novell is having trouble finding a niche. What if Novell brought its expertise and engineering team and bought out Canonical? Shuttleworth is great at landing deals and helping to push desktop innovation. Novell is also pushing innovation, but much better at managing solid releases. (Novell is pushing heavy development in OpenOffice, Evolution, they invented Compiz, Openxchange, Moonlight, Samba, etc).
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Back one or two evrsion ago you clicked on the sound and just did set up the microphone with bar etc... Last version they have now this sucky default stuff I could not find head to tail how to make input sound higher or lower. I had to download an ALSA mixer, and this sucks because it is always setting back the bar to "zero" and mute for front and wave.... Sucky. It was so easy in version (7?) and was definitively not human/user friendly in the last (8?9?) versiob.
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Parent was having some slightly mean spirited fun. You're freaking out like a fucking child. I know who I have a higher opinion of.
No no no!
You've inadvertently saved the CarbonUnit Race!
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So, it will aim a thunderstorm at your head, then go use the Thunder package manager to get all the required bolts, but the jagged ones need proper moisture and the ziggy ones need dry charged air! You're safe!
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Were is the review? Did I miss the link? I came to this page and all I see are comments. hmm.
Furthermore, the lord said:
gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string ":minimize,maximize,close"
And so it was done!
"If God created us in his own image we have more than reciprocated." - Voltaire
I have not upgraded my desktop PC yet, but both my laptops (1 runs Intel, 1 runs nVidia video) are running 10.04 since the early alphas.
One of the reasons I upgraded during alpha was "blueman" Bluetooth PPP was not working so well under 9.10 (at least, not with my Samsung phone). I'd get BT tethering working, and then it would die with no obvious reason. Saw that there were some fixes in the new packages, but had issues running them under 9.10... so 10.x I went.
I should note I got *burned* on 9.10 due to bad Intel drivers... that was another reason to upgrade to 10.x.
Folks, before upgrading, do check that your wireless and your video work under a new release before jumping to it... but other than that, Ubuntu is awesome. Compared to my experiences using Red Hat and recent Fedora as a desktop, most of the time Ubuntu is clear sailing....
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FWIW, here's my experience with upgrading from karmic to lucid. I've been running lucid since April 10.
For anyone who is having serious problems with jaunty or karmic that have been fixed in lucid, it might actually be smart to go ahead and upgrade sooner rather than later. My impression is that the beta is at least as high in quality as the release versions of jaunty and karmic. Jaunty and karmic were simply horrible releases.
In the future, I'm thinking of being much more conservative, just staying with LTS releases. What I'd been doing in the past was upgrading the OS for the sake of getting new versions of certain apps (mainly inkscape). But the quality of the non-LTS releases seems to be so ridiculously bad that I don't think I'm going to do that anymore.
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I'm still waiting for linux developers to unify their GUI and various other apps. Development is crippled by people splintering off to develop the same applications with slightly different/competing feature sets that never really accomplish 100% of what needs to be done. I've been a linux user for years and will continue to use it in critical and non-critical positions, but it is absolutely frustrating when I try to do something as simple as provide music over the network to handheld devices or my stereo and it proves difficult - switching from one media application to another and back and forth. Don't get me wrong, I love the open source community and I try my best to contribute when I can. But the splintered development effort always leaves Ubuntu/Fedora/SuSE/et al feeling a bit under/broken-featured. I'm not saying OSX or WinX is any better, because they aren't - but I can say in all certainty that Windows has a lot more solid apps around for it. Take two examples - EAC & DVDShrink. Both very basic applications with no functional equivalents in any linux distro (don't even kid yourself - the current k9copy is totally broken when it comes to saving DVDs straight to ISO - won't even touch it) and the GUI frontends for ripping CDs (ruby ripper) fall short of EAC functionality, when in reality it really should be the other way around considering it's linux. Thankfully, there is wine.
right now, at this very minute.
This is a definite WTF moment. How could Ubuntu not include the GIMP?!! And worse yet, they have replaced it with F-Spot -- one of the most difficult and annoyingly feature free graphics programs I have ever seen. IIRC, it is based on Mono, too, which is another reason to hate it.
Well, Ubuntu is shaping up to be more and more useless with every release. In 8.04, I could resize an external monitor to whatever resolution the monitor could take. Updates disabled that functionality and constrained me to hardware detection. In 8.10, using an external monitor on an EEE causes a blank screen. CUPS is broken on every release soon after install. Skype and USB audio have not worked since 8.04. Firefox has been getting worse and worse, as well.
Ubuntu used to be easier to use than anything, but now, it is getting like Windows: Many things are broken and cannot be fixed whatever one does. I guess I will just have to keep my fingers crossed for Haiku or switch back to Fedora. For all the money Canonical has spent and all the work that has been done, I would have believed they would have come out with something better. I guess I will never be able to upgrade my EEE :(
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You're not funny.
You do know you can always install Gimp if you want to use it, right?
Here's my review: http://jesse.kline.ca/blog/42-linux/155-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx-review
oooooooh, now I'm scared, Internet Tough Guy!!!!
No, and it's trivially easy to move the buttons around in KDE using the System Settings GUI.
F-Spot replaces The GIMP??? That is wrong, on so many levels.
It merely occupies (some of) the space on the CD previously allocated to The GIMP.
Help! I'm a slashdot refugee.
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From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
gconftool-2 –set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout –type string menu:minimize,maximize,close
Press Alt+F2, type in "gconf-editor" (w/o quotes) and then click "Run."
On the left, navigate to "apps->metacity->general", and then on the right look for a key called "button_layout."
Right click and click "Edit Key" and change the value to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" (w/o quotes) and click "Ok."
Your button layout should now instantly be back to normal.
Enjoy.
How could Ubuntu not include the GIMP?!! And worse yet, they have replaced it with F-Spot -- one of the most difficult and annoyingly feature free graphics programs I have ever seen. IIRC, it is based on Mono, too, which is another reason to hate it. [...] In 8.04, I could resize an external monitor to whatever resolution the monitor could take.
In 8.04, F-Spot was/is the default photo manager. I've been using 8.04 since 2008/04, and every time I plug my phone in to charge, F-Spot pops up. IIRC, Gimp wasn't installed by default with 8.04 either, but f-spot doesn't do editing, it just manages photo directories. I never knew it was mono based; that explains why it's slow as moles' asses in January.
yeah and fedora drops f-spot and tomboy for Showtell and Gnote.. and removes all mono from live CD. Suprised Ubuntu using more mono
Perhaps because the vast majority of their users don't use it, because it's a comparatively large package so including it excludes other more desired features, and because apt-get install gimp isn't too great a hurdle for anyone who does need it.
Previous Ubuntu versions, during install, would overwrite the master boot record without giving the user any choice about where to put Ubuntu's boot-loader (no choice of which partition to locate it) -- nor even any warning. But it seems the Ubuntu folk didn't consider that a bug. Does it still do that?
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gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string menu:minimize,maximize,close
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You're not funny.
What a coincidence! Neither are you. Weird.
I've never owned any Apple (TM) hardware until 6 days ago when my dad gave me an old, pink iMac for my daughters to share. And whilst installing and configuring OS X I discovered that the close, minimise and do-something-else buttons are on the left of each window's title bar. But despite being over 30 and therefore unable to learn anything new i got used to it after about half an hour so, in all seriousness, what's your damage?
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There is no question that the GIMP was installed by default in 8.04 -- in fact, in every version of Ubuntu until 10.04. That is precisely why the review pointed it out (first, I might add) as one of the things that were new in this release. It is also available in the live desktop on all of those versions. Pull out the old CDs and run them if you do not believe me.
This also makes Ubuntu the only major distro to not include the GIMP by default.
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Why is Ubuntu still clinging to an install CD while all the other distros are using DVDs? Again, Ubuntu is not Windows, and it is not made by MS. Why follow MS's weak design choices?
If Ubuntu claimed that a CD version could not include OpenOffice and instead included Abiword, I would not be arguing. But the GIMP is almost as central to Linux as Gnome or KDE. It is a staple, like rice or bread. Without it, the desktop will be "undernourished".
Ubuntu also is not Puppy Linux. It does not take up a mere 100MB of disk space. It does not run on 20 year old computers. Why should the default install not include the best and brightest of the Linux world?
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6 months after everyone else on Mac and Windows has.
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Well, yes they do because if Canonical are expecting F-Spot of all things to be an adequate replacement for an image manipulation application then they're nuts. The GIMP was the only one in the Gnome/GTK world. If they're saying that the GIMP isn't good enough and they're dropping then, well, their application pool gets ever more laughable.
apt-get?! there's clicky-clicky for that on the top left!
But indeed, this whining about what is installed by default is annoying. Is there any system where you do not have to select at least 40 packages before you can start being productive on it? The important thing is what they provide through their official repositories, not what you get on initial install.
Dell delivered my new Inspiron 15 three days ago, and I happily blitzed all the pre-installed crap on it with the Lucid release candidate.
First impressions are that everything just works - dual head monitors, webcam, sound, even the audio controls on my wireless keyboard. It asked during install if I wanted the proprietary or open driver for the Broadcom wireless adapter, and it too worked no problem. Installed Skype, again it just works. I don't think I used the terminal for anything to do with the installation at all.
I'm slowly getting used to the buttons on the left, but switched themes to radiance (a lighter one) because I didn't like all the menus being dark. I gave gnome-shell a quick spin because I like the concept, and it is pretty neat and worked fine with the dual displays. But it definitely wasn't ready for the prime time, I had trouble finding how to access settings/preferences.
All up I'm not going to need the license for Win7 that came with the laptop - going cheap if you're interested!
Do as you would be done to.
I have it installed here now and F-Spot doesn't even have cropping. It can only rotate images left and right which is completely stupid because you have an image viewer app by default that does that too.
So you double click open an image and the image viewer appears with the following options.. rotate left/right, zoom, next/last image and a button called "edit image" which opens f-spot..
So what do you get when you click the edit image button to open f-spot? rotate left/right, zoom and next/last image.. This is a complete joke. The worse part is that I've been using 10.04 for a while and I am sure they used to have the crop in there at the beginning.
Total fail.
That just changes the button layout. Then you're stuck with the button's background image not matching up correctly.
So instead of looking like this...
(_ _ _)
You get this..
_) _ (_
Why should your personal choice of config be default when only you want to use it compared to the millions of people who don't?
Anyone know if real time pre-emption works in Lucid? Our recording studio has been kept at 8.04 solely because all subsequent releases, as near as we could tell, did not implement real time pre-emption, which is critical for us in order to get latency as near to zero as possible.
I'd love to learn the default kernel in Lucid has rtp enabled or that there's a real-time kernel available which will work...
Extremely happy with it too. Everything works nearly seamlessly. It's a big change from the disappointment I felt at 9.10.
The Apple-style button layout was a pain in the ass when it affected all themes, but it wasn't too much trouble to fix.
I've been running Lucid since alpha 3 on 2 PCs. One is an Dell c640. It crashes. Constantly. But, only in firefox. Using the search box is a sure way to get the black screen. Sure, it doesn't crash the machine. It comes back to the login prompt quickly and you can log in again. Just to have it crash again in 20 or 30 minutes. Just clicking on the link to the article I'm commenting on caused the desktop to crash and restart. I always install the newest version of Ubuntu on at least one machine. Up until 9.10 the apha 1 version always installed. At 9.10 I could not install alpha 1, it did not run. On 10.4 I was unable to install alpha 1 and 2. Alpha 3 installed but was barely usable. I'm currently running the release candidate. Right now the scroll bar to the right edge of the edit region I'm typing into is locked up. This is the buggiest version of Ubuntu I have ever seen. The spell checker is marking my questionable words, but right clicking does not bring up spelling corrections. And, I can't use the moue to place the cursor in the right half of the edit box I currently using. In other words is is totally messed up.
The new default theme is painful to look at and impossible to use. Ok, it is for me. I'm 57. I have old eyes. I wear bifocal glasses. The extreme changes in brightness across the default background cause painful eye strain. Gray text on a gray background, you have got to be kidding. Is there anyone with any knowledge of human factors engineering at Ubuntu? I don't think so. Do they even care about the usability of the UI? Clearly not.
Should I mention the stupidity of moving the windows buttons? Never mind. Oh, and if you flame me and ask me why I ever bothered to leave Windows, please check your history and notice that I started using Unix before there was a Windows. I did not move from Windows to Linux. I moved from Unix to Linux. The OS I use is not a religious thing with me. One OS, is pretty much like another. OTOH, I am outraged at being forced to support a criminal organization. Extortion is extortion no matter whether the money goes to MS or the mob. At least with the mob you will get what you paid for.
On the other hand, the bugs will eventually be fixed. If it survives long enough this just might be the most important version of Linux that ever shipped. Take a look at two new features. The music store and the me-menu. The me-menu looked like a total waste of time to me until I understood that it just might give me a way to keep up with Facebook and Linkedin without having to check in to the sites or do it through email. My friends and most of my relatives, all the ones I want to contact anyway, are all on Facebook. My business contacts are all on Linkedin. These are very important to me. If it pans out, the me-menu could be great. It could be horrible too. It could be especially horrible if I have to sign up for stuff I don't want to use the stuff I do want or if they treat experienced adults as poorly in the me-menu as they do in the UI. If I can't read it, I can't use it.
The big winner is the music store. Ubuntu includes support for mp3 format music. The music store sells mp3s without DRM. But, to use the music store you have to use Ubuntu 10.4 or greater. That means that a lot of people who are willing to pay for music but are not willing to have it locked to a single platform are going to flock to Ubuntu to buy music. I'm one of those people. I buy CDs and rip them so that I can get DRM free music. I've never stolen a track. But, I will not buy music that can only play on one platform. I will not buy music that I can't back up, burn to a CD, or play on any old music system I happen to buy. If losing the player means losing the music then it is not worth buying either the music or the player.
If the music store really is what it is claimed to be, it will be the best reason to stay with, or move to, Ubuntu that anyone has ever come up with. There are a few of my old favorites that they don't have, like Utah Phillips. But, the have The Great Society, the 13th Floo
Well I have to admit, that was a fast fix... even if the biggest bug so far only made me feel a bit more smugly satisfied for having a separate partition for GRUB.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/29/ubuntu_10_04_bug_delay/
What's kinda amusing is that WindowMaker (itself a NextStep clone, which is where Aqua has its roots, that being what word+dog is imitating now) has minimize all the way to the left, and close all the way to the right. You gets your two buttons and you likes it. I've configured my workplace KDE3 desktop (WindowMaker dock bug if anyone has a clue) to be similarly decorated. The GNOME / Ubuntu silliness is amusing in a sad sort of a way. Fortunately, this is GNU/Linux. We've other options.
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
F-spot *is* an adequate replacement for an image manipulation program; since most people don't want an image manipulation program, it makes sense to replace it with something that people *do* want. Like an image management application.
It's still in the repos, it's just not installed by default.
No; they only theme Gnome. Xubuntu and Kubuntu ship with whatever the default theme for XFCE and KDE are generally. Sometimes with a changed wallpaper or something.
Either way, the buttons are part of a theme - they've not hardcoded them into the top-left.
Did anyone notice that if you "take the tour" at the main page of ubuntu it looks suspiciously like a windows tour: browse the web, buy music while you listen, mobilise your digital life, start fast with windows eeeurhm, i mean ubuntu, ...
At least that can be fixed. My pet peeve is that they removed the button from Nautilus that let you switch between the breadcrumb and text views for the path. I doubt that most users knew about Ctrl+L until today (I certainly didn't), though even if you use that the path is automatically reset to '/', which is a pain if you only wanted to modify the original path.
The behaviour from 9.10 shouldn't have been touched, IMO. Moves like this make Ubuntu *harder* for new users to learn.
Launchpad link is here for anyone else who agrees me (or just wants to see if we can slashdot the site).
Most human behaviour can be explained in terms of identity.
Crap crap crap....should have read all the doom/gloom/you're gonna die if you update too soon stuff last night before I upgraded to 10.04 LTS...CRAP...
Oh wait...it's working perfectly, no problems during or after the upgrade...I'm being set up, right? WHEN OH WHEN will it all fall in the crapper and my life be RUINED?
I've found that the last couple of upgrades on both my desktop and laptop have gone swimmingly well. Hat's off to the release teams!
Use "ois" instead of "oys". You know, to indicate their gayness...
It *isn't*', and those who think it is have never tried manipulating photos with it in the way that people do.
You might think that people want it but I couldn't possibly comment. Cropping, resizing and retouching is simply impossible with it.
Why is Ubuntu still clinging to an install CD while all the other distros are using DVDs?
Two reasons:
Is there any system where you do not have to select at least 40 packages before you can start being productive on it?
Yes; it's called an appliance. General-purpose operating systems for PCs have no idea what will make you productive vs. what will make someone else productive. There isn't much point in including a general image manipulation program if the majority of users aren't going to be doing general image manipulation. They can't include everything in the 700 MB install image, and they can't make it much bigger for reasons I explained elsewhere.
...and because apt-get install gimp isn't too great a hurdle for anyone who does need it.
or opening the "Ubuntu Software Center", typing GIMP in the search box, and pressing the "Install" button, just in case you don't feel so comfortable with command line.
I've been using various distros of Linux at home for about 12 years.
I've been using Ubuntu for years, I think it is the best distro and I think it has easiest upgrades.
Having said that, a few times I've upgraded I have had my video or audio messed up afterward as well as smaller sundry issues.
For a few years now I wait at least a month after the upgrades get released. Haven't had a problem yet doing this.
Sux for you, every time I install Kubuntu everything works. Several different mini-itx boards, a couple laptops, and a couple desktops. Of course I'm using hardware that's a couple years old. Try installing XP on a Toshiba Satellite A205 laptop. Guess what? You can't!. XP drivers don't exist. But, Kubuntu from 8.10 on up... everything works right after install, including the webcam. Flash is a simple apt-get.
How many more years will slashdot have an off-by-one error on your Score in your profile?
gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/button_layout -t string "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
Time. Time seems... strange.
She is a non-techie and so far she loves Lucid. I'm waiting to upgrade until the semester ends, because for me it's mission critical, whereas her computer is more a toy that she occasionally uses for work. Karmic was my first upgrade without something really breaking in a particularly annoying way, so I'm optimistic for what Lucid will be like after all you early adopters act as bug decoys.
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This is one big reason KVM is so useful.
Why don't you just use kvm and try a new release out in a safe VM environment first ?
If you find everything working to your liking then do the upgrade/install on the host machine.
I am not interested in wasting my time with MS software of any flavour. My gripes with MS software are an order of magnitude greater than those few that I listed for Ubuntu.
I love (or perhaps loved) Ubuntu. It works better than anything I have ever used (yes, that also includes Mac's lockware). My love for Ubuntu is the factor that compels me to complain. Ubuntu is still better than any other disto, and I would like it to stay that way. I have lived many years with the rougher edges of the Linux desktop, and now that Ubuntu has the chance to be literally better than any other OS (not to mention distro) available, I do not want to see it destroyed by oversimplification and proprietary crap like Mono. Freedom does not have to be ugly and inconvenient.
All data is speech. All speech is Free.
Well, for one thing you can't test two crucial often-buggy items in a VM:
1) Compositing window managers. Gnome shell runs only with compositing.
2) Grub on a real machine.
Also, you're not testing whether Ubuntu works with your hardware, but rather with the VM. Which, really, is the point of testing the new release.
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From TFA:
One can't help thinking that this would be a better world if all reviewers tested software by sticking to the official system requirements.
If you don't like the controls in the new left side position for Radiance and Ambiance in Ubuntu 10.04, you can download slightly modified versions of those themes entitled Radiance_R and Ambiance_R. I have modified these thems and posted them on Gnome-Look.org for people who would like to use them. Here are the links to the themes. Ambiance_R (Ambiance Right Side) http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ambiance_R+(Ambiance+Right+Side)?content=123927 Radiance_R (Radiance Right Side) http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Radiance_R+(Radiance+Right+Side)?content=123931 I hope you find these beneficial and enjoy them. - zipperback
>For the amount of effort it takes - it's not hardly worth the whining I've been seeing online
The whining is because of the people behind the curtain at Ubuntu refusing to listen to the community, nay even given some kind of explanation (a half-hearted version of which wasn't even deigned to be given at the outset), and seem to think it's OK to come out with changes right before UI freeze time thereby allowing no response from the community.
That and Ubuntu was supposed to be the "normal" distro, where things are as much as possible in line with the expectations of users of most other computing systems.
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OK, then, your WM buttons are moving to the left bottom corner of the window in the next release.
What's that you say? Damage?
Can't get used to it? Or, rather, is it that you don't feel that you should have to arbitrarily moving stuff around and telling people who object that they're fuddy-duddies?
That's the point.
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>My pet peeve is that they removed the button from Nautilus that let you switch between the breadcrumb and text views for the path.
I hear you. And thus continues GNOME and Ubuntu's crusade to make people learn to use Gconf-editor.
I set /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry
to true.
Once you do this, though, you can't switch back and forth between breadcrumb and text views because the button is gone.
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Just a heads up, there's also a review of Kubuntu Linux 10.04 up on the blog now: Kubuntu Linux 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2010/05/03/kubuntu-linux-10-04-lts-lucid-lynx/ And if you're looking for an alternative to Kubuntu, try PCLinuxOS: PCLinuxOS 2010 (KDE) http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2010/04/20/pclinuxos-2010-kde/
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No one should be running Mono. It's a well-proven, extensively documented part of Microsoft's PR, FUD, and patent attack on Linux.
The real problem is that it was included to begin with. It needs to be removed at the source.
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