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Re:Does that mean
Even on your assessment they are still the best: equal quality of results and faster updates means they are still the best.
Personally, I still think Google results are the best - and I done my own testing, even using blind search for a while.
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Re:Sorry Google
Sorry - it is:
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/ -
Re:What about AltaVista?
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/ is what you are describing, for Yahoo/Bing/Google.
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Re:Small sample is right
I still find myself frequently forgetting Bing is the default search, coming up with bizarrely useless results, switching to Google, and saying to myself, ah yes, these are the results I was expecting.
I'm a bit skeptical... I tried out a blind search site and Bing and Google came up pretty much neck-in-neck for me. Yahoo was way behind, though. This was a while ago (before the Bing-Yahoo search merger thing); maybe things have changed since then. In any case, I would recomend trying it out yourself.
I'm still using google, because I like the simpler interface better, though.
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Re:O No
Of the three searches he discusses in the article as examples of Bing doing better than Google, I get the same top two results on both search engines for one, and for another he is giving Bing credit for putting two Linkedin pages at the top (not a good thing IMAO) and for the third he thinks that having a keyword stuffed spammy affiliate site, that does not actually have the tickets searched for available, as the first result is better than having an out of date news story.
If I was scoring it then Google would have won.
I actually tried using the three major search engines for a few days, using blind search , at the time Bing came out, and Google was the clear winner then.
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Re:Perhaps there are reasons unrelated to monpolie
Apparently, according to the author, MS's failure in search is purely down to Google's monopoly and completely unrelated to the fact that MS has in the past chosen to skew search results and hence proven itself to be an untrustworthy search provider?
Citation needed. You're the first I have heard to make such an allegation. They only honest way to determine search engine "trustworthiness" or any over perceived performance measure is to do the search engine taste test. Three engines, one query. Choose the best result list.
I bet you'll be surprised.
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Re:Big Battle
And I've compared the search results, 80% of the time I prefer Google's results (there was this site that compared Bing/Google/Yahoo and had you pick your favorite and then told you what it was, don't know the URL at the time)
I've always wanted to do this objectively, so I found the following site. Not sure if this is the one you mentioned, but it worked great.
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/
I found that site by searching for "bing google yahoo search compare" on google. Doing that using our search compare, I chose the correct search site for the answer I was looking for (though it was one link deeper than direct)...
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/?q=bing+google+yahoo+search+compare&type=web
Then, couldn't resist a Meta compare...Which site is better at telling me which site is better...
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/?q=which+is+better%2C+google%2C+yahoo+or+bing+search&type=web
My results are similar to yours. I favor Google about 70-80% of the time. -
Re:Big Battle
And I've compared the search results, 80% of the time I prefer Google's results (there was this site that compared Bing/Google/Yahoo and had you pick your favorite and then told you what it was, don't know the URL at the time)
I've always wanted to do this objectively, so I found the following site. Not sure if this is the one you mentioned, but it worked great.
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/
I found that site by searching for "bing google yahoo search compare" on google. Doing that using our search compare, I chose the correct search site for the answer I was looking for (though it was one link deeper than direct)...
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/?q=bing+google+yahoo+search+compare&type=web
Then, couldn't resist a Meta compare...Which site is better at telling me which site is better...
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/?q=which+is+better%2C+google%2C+yahoo+or+bing+search&type=web
My results are similar to yours. I favor Google about 70-80% of the time. -
Re:Big Battle
And I've compared the search results, 80% of the time I prefer Google's results (there was this site that compared Bing/Google/Yahoo and had you pick your favorite and then told you what it was, don't know the URL at the time)
I've always wanted to do this objectively, so I found the following site. Not sure if this is the one you mentioned, but it worked great.
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/
I found that site by searching for "bing google yahoo search compare" on google. Doing that using our search compare, I chose the correct search site for the answer I was looking for (though it was one link deeper than direct)...
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/?q=bing+google+yahoo+search+compare&type=web
Then, couldn't resist a Meta compare...Which site is better at telling me which site is better...
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/?q=which+is+better%2C+google%2C+yahoo+or+bing+search&type=web
My results are similar to yours. I favor Google about 70-80% of the time. -
Re:Big Battle
there was this site that compared Bing/Google/Yahoo and had you pick your favorite and then told you what it was, don't know the URL at the time
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Re:Big Battle
They may have improved Bing, but overall I find google gives me results "I am looking for".
Tested this with Blindsearch.
I would take the "gaining marketshare" with a pinch of salt. As it is very different then people actually changing search engines.
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Re:Big Battle
About two months ago I used Blind Search for a week to see how Bing's actually doing. There were two classes of results that I found:
A) Two columns show fairly similar results (Bing and Google) and the third shows somewhat worse ones (Yahoo).
B) One column with good results (Google), the others totally wrong or at least significantly worse.Although I just tried a query from the second category again and they now all show the best result first (instead of somewhere on the second page). I guess it's time for another week of Blind Search for me.
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A blind search site for testing results
This site makes it easy to assess results from Google, Bing and Yahoo.
It does the search server-side and all you see are 3 columns of results. You get to "vote" which suits you more, at which time the sources of the results are shown to you. Give it a try a few times, it's a very interesting exercise.
At least I can say I did some exercise this week.
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Re:What a surprise
You should try the same searches in a blind experiment http://blindsearch.fejus.com/ and see which result set you prefer, to eliminate observer bias.
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Re:What a surprise
Why is it inferior? Because it has the Microsoft name attached to it? I would invite you to take the blind search test to see which search engine is really the best for you: http://blindsearch.fejus.com/
I did quite a few searches on there, about 90% were won by Google, the rest were won by Yahoo, not a single search did I find to be better on Bing.
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Re:What a surprise
I would invite you to take the blind search test to see which search engine is really the best for you: http://blindsearch.fejus.com/
It's not that blind. Having Yahoo and Google side-to-side really ruins the whole "blind test" experience, as Yahoo's results are just Google's with a slightly different result order.
"Oh, this is not equal to the other two, so it is not Yahoo or Google" -
Re:What a surprise
Why is it inferior? Because it has the Microsoft name attached to it? I would invite you to take the blind search test to see which search engine is really the best for you: http://blindsearch.fejus.com/
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Re:Compare them yourself, without branding
Curious that the search string "cobbaut aernout" turns up nothing for Google in your link...
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/?q=%22cobbaut+aernout%22&type=webBut it does give a result in google...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22cobbaut+aernout%22 -
Re:Microsoft is doing what it's best at - Marketin
You have to try the scientific comparison - http://blindsearch.fejus.com/. Shows results from google, bing and yahoo in random order. I tried a few different searches and you could always tell the lame yahoo results, but bing and google were hard to tell apart. The site is run by a microserf though.
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Compare them yourself, without branding
Compare them yourself, without branding: http://blindsearch.fejus.com/
This site basically outputs search results in three columns, with all formatting uniform, all branding removed and columns permuted on every search. You vote for the best results. I found myself unknowingly "voting" for Bing a surprising number of times.
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Re:Am I missing something?
bing has been surprisingly good so far. you can compare results on blindsearch
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Blind testing
Interestingly, someone has put up a 'side-by-side' blind test to compare Bing vs. Yahoo vs. Google.
I'm surprised at how well Yahoo has acquitted itself, although I know from past experience that it just doesn't cut it. So far, Bing has been a dismal last place in every search I've thrown at this thing.
Check it out:
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/