Domain: folketinget.dk
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From the danish constitution
I don't understand how they could get though a court with this either.
Danes may not be allowed to use TPB for anything "interesting", but are at liberty to do so at your own responsibility!!
http://www.folketinget.dk/pdf/constitution.pdf
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Any person shall be at liberty to publish his ideas
in print, in writing, and in speech, subject to his
being held responsible in a court of law. Censor-
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Re:What's wrong with good ol paper ballot?
Hear, hear! Denmark has manual counting from paper votes, too, and it just works. We get the results the same evening. Importantly, the counting (and re-counting next day) are both open to the public. I see *absolutely* no need for machinery.
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Re:ex parteGiven the number of responses this gave, I'd better give a few more background comments.
This is in Denmark, as some have guessed. If you understand danish, you can find the legislative process for this law change documented here. Unfortunately the background for this law change (Betænkning nr. 1385/2000) is no longer online, and this is what best illustrates the US government pressure.
Basically the US government complained in the WTO that we did not obey TRIPS Article 50, 1 (b) as we did note have Anton Piller order-like legislation that could be used against individuals suspected on infringing on copyrights, although all legal experts said we were fully compliant. When the US government threathened to escalate this into trade restrictions against Denmark our government felt forced to propose this law change although they knew that we did not violate TRIPS.
This incident changed my view on the US. I have nothing against the US people, but I have developed a strong dislike for the US government (no matter which party in your two-party system is in power), and I now have a better understanding of why people in some parts of the world think the US is imperialistic and want to do terrorist action against the US.
Personally I don't want to retaliate against the US.
And I don't think it is needed. Given the way things are developing in the US and in the rest of the world, I think it is just a matter of time until the US has fallen so much technologically and economically behind the rest of the world that they will be unable to bully other nations like they did to my country. This is sad for the US people, as they have to suffer under a government by the corporations and for the corporations in a two-party political system that is only marginally better than the communist one party system.
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Re:How we do it in Denmark
This parliament decides on the cabinet (minister of state, minister of foreign affairs etc.).
This is not correct.The democratically elected danish parliament (Folketinget) has no direct influence on the appointment of the government ministers. See article 14 in the danish constitution: "The King shall appoint and dismiss the Prime Minister and the other Ministers."
But article 15 ("A Minister shall not remain in office after the Folketing has approved a vote of no confidence in him.") means that the danish parliament can sack any minister (or the whole government) with a simple majority vote.
What happens when a danish government has to be appointed is:
- The leaders of the parties in parliament go to the Queen and each tell her who they would like as Prime Minister. This is only advisory, but helps the Queen appoint a stable government that the danish parliament is unlikely to sack.
- The Queen appoints the Prime Minister.
- The Prime Minister appoints the other ministers in the government.
- The Queen approves the other ministers appointed.
Bendt Bendtsen could have been sacked by the danish parliament because of this, but he was lucky: One of the large parties in parliament turned around and accepted that he did not do what they asked him to do, and then the majority for sacking him was gone.
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Re:it's not that simple
Your are not quite right when you claim that Folketinget or any of it's comittees can mandate the danish government how to vote in the European Council. Please read Article 19 in the danish constitution.
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Re:US Law and it's extent
In addition to the last document, here is another one describing the extent of foreing extradition requests: http://www.folketinget.dk/Samling/20012/udvbilag/
R EU/B93_bilag12.htm - especially question 29 is noteworthy. It states, in short terms, that only a final sentence, granting more than 4 months of jail, and no more than 3 years in the foreign country, will be used as possible reason for handing out Danish citizens. Furthermore, the victim must have convicted what would be a crime in Denmark. -
Re:US Law and it's extent
Nope - that isn't wrong. Take a look at this document from the Danish government, regarding just a case, where a Danish citizen is convicted of a crime in a foreign country (India, in this example) and won't be handed out due the Danish restrictions. http://www.folketinget.dk/Samling/20012/spor_sv/S
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Re:Some informationWhat Søren is saying isn't infact all true - it's IS legal in Denmark to make digital copies for personal use, and it's been like this since newyear.
This is not true!
The intetion was to allow digital copying, but problems with royalties on writable cd-roms stopped the law.
There is now a draft in the works. You can see this here
Søren -
Hold on a second, the newspapers got it wrong
You can read the lawproposal online at Forslag til lov om ændring af ophavsretsloven., it will help you if you understand danish, because there are no translations.
A quote: Forslaget indebærer, at der kun gives adgang til kopiering af tekst, musik og billeder m.v. i digital form til personlig brug f.eks. med henblik på optagelse af radio- og tv-udsendelser til tidsforskudt brug, kopiering af en musik-cd til bilen, til sommerhuset eller til en walkman, kopiering til en opsamlings-cd og kopiering til en pc med henblik på elektronisk afvikling inden for husstanden. Derimod vil det ikke være tilladt at fremstille digitale eksemplarer, der bruges uden for den enkelte husstand, f.eks. kopiering til bekendte og skolekammerater. Det vil heller ikke være tilladt for køberen af et digitalt leveret musikværk at videresende musikværket via e-mail til venner og bekendte. Kopiering til personlig brug omfatter endvidere ikke kopiering som led i arbejde eller undervisning.
A rough translation: The proposal implies that it only will be allowed to make copies of text, music and pictures and so forth, in digital form for personal use, for example the recording of radio- and tv-broadcasts for timeshifting, copying af music-cd's for the car, holidayresidence or for a walkman, copying of sample-cd's for use in the household. It will not be allowed to make digital copies, that will be used outside of the individual household, f.ex. copying for friends and schoolmates. It will further not be allowed for the buyer of a digital musicproduct to give away copies to to friends or aqaintances via email. Further copying for personal use does not imply copying related to work or studies.
So I don't see how this can legalize Napster, it will only decriminalize the downloading, but the users are not allowed to share their collection with the work, and isn't that the purpose of Napster?But at least it will be legal to use a Browser in Denmark now, because the existing law prohibits all digital copying, and as you all know, a browser allways makes digital copies, one in the RAM-cache and one on the disk-cache. That was an oversight in the old law, and it was never uphold.