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Name a SINGLE phone that actually supports using GSI

Google's Pixel phones are the obvious examples, as they're designed for easy user unlocking. But any of the phones listed here or here can also be unlocked, and many of them like the recent-ish OnePlus, Xiaomi, and Huawei phones are easy to flash GSIs to. Other compatible phones may require root first, like with any pre-GSI custom rom. And any unlockable phone shipping with Android 8.0+ can run any of the many GSI roms - regardless of the vendor's (lack of) updates.

Bonus Points if you can name a phone where the OEM took the time to update a pre-8 device to treble...

Better, here's a whole list.

Every time I look, and it is a thing I look at with some regularity, it's a thing that doesn't work yet... so yes. If it dates back to ICS, then I should have seen it somewhere along I, J, K, L, M, N or O.

Besides, folks are re-implementing NTP in Android userspace on a per-application basis because the clock sucks on Android smartphones -- a thing that wouldn't ever happen if it didn't have to happen.

There are other hacks that work system-wide, but they require root since Android doesn't let usermode apps play with the system clock despite its extensive permissions system. (Because FUCK YOU, I think.)

I don't have root. (Wouldn't need it anyway if NTP was actually supported in the wild...)

But if I install the package at that last link, I can see that the offset is 1.4 seconds off from whatever instance of pool.ntp.org it found -- which is way, way outside the normal margins for modern networks and common NTP servers.

So no, Android doesn't use NTP.

Siri exists, try again.

But you can disable it.

https://ios.gadgethacks.com/ho...

Try again, yourself.

A company that locks you in to their platform, but generally respects your privacy (at least to our knowledge), or a company that's far less locked down, but pisses all over your privacy.

You can do something about the privacy problem. You can't do much about the lockdown problem.

What "lockdown" problem?

https://ios.gadgethacks.com/ho...

That requires NO Jailbreaking.

And, if you have a Mac, you can simply go to GitHub and visit their large collection of Open Source iOS Apps that you can "Sideload" with XCode:

For example:

https://github.com/vsouza/awes...

Or they could just get Android like they currently do.

Yeah, if their parents don't care about their kid's identity being harvested by nefarious Android Apps.

Oh, and it was an Android phone that first removed the 3.5 mm Jack; but everyone around here CONVENIENTLY ignores that fact... They call that "Willful Blindness".

And the list keeps growing. And yet, SOMEHOW, none of these Android phones without a 3.5 mm Jack in the List linked-to below seems to draw significant ire from the Apple-Hating Slashtards. Wonder why?

https://smartphones.gadgethack...

Oh wait, you're a fucking idiot Android fanboy that just spouts bullshit...

Cydia Impactor

If it's no better than a fingerprint, then why is it needed?

One out of 50,000 people have similar enough fingerprints to you to unlock your phone, only one out of 1 million people have similar enough faces to unlock your phone. Also FaceID works if you're wearing gloves. So, it's better in at least some ways.

And it is worse than a fingerprint: twins can't fingerprint-unlock each others' phones. Hell, even non-twin adult siblings can face-unlock the same phone. And you can only put one face in the phone, so no, they didn't do it by putting both faces in the phone.

In your link they trained it on both faces. You can only calibrate one original face, but every time it fails to recognize a new face and then you input your passcode then it will add the new face data to the training set. And that's probably exactly what the Vietnam group did with the 3D mask, kept inputting the passcode until it would recognize the mask as the person.

Got a citation for this? There's a mode that requires "attention" (e.g. open eyes), but it is not the default.

That's bullshit, you're completely wrong, stop getting all your info from Breitbart.

https://support.apple.com/en-u...

Seriously, does the fact that Apple exists bother you so much that you feel the need to manufacture lies on the internet, and then desperately hope that noone will call you on your bullshit?

If it is no worse than a thumbprint, then why is it news?

If it's no better than a fingerprint, then why is it needed? And it is worse than a fingerprint: twins can't fingerprint-unlock each others' phones. Hell, even non-twin adult siblings can face-unlock the same phone. And you can only put one face in the phone, so no, they didn't do it by putting both faces in the phone.

Also, FaceID doesn't work if you're unconscious.

Got a citation for this? There's a mode that requires "attention" (e.g. open eyes), but it is not the default. Without that setting being enabled, your iPhone X will unlock if your eyes are closed. Now, if you're just sleeping, rather than being unconscious, you might wake up when someone manipulates your hand to unlock your phone using your fingerprint, but will you wake when they hold the phone in front of your face without touching you?

It seriously took 10 seconds to completely destroy your argument

Except that you didn't, really.

maybe try harder next time

Maybe you should.

You're not understanding the difference between updates and security patches. They have nothing to do with each other. Just because your Ancient Galaxy S5 didn't get Orea, or Nougat, or maybe you didn't chose to install Marshmallow doesn't mean that it isn't supported due to the difference between security level patching and the version of the OS.

Oh I understand the difference. So please tell me that how I get security updates on my Android phone? You can't because you don't know 1) the model/version and 2) the carrier. With Android you might get a phone that hasn't been updated in years and can't be updated/won't be updated even with security patches. Like I said: Android in general does. With Android phones, the details matter.

But I can just root the phone right? Maybe. Again depends on the model/version/firmware version/etc and carrier. Even then it's not a guarantee as it relies on 3rd party software that may or may not work. And after all that, rooting doesn't mean that magically my phone will always be patched. If anything rooting the phone makes the patching more of a nightmare. Now I'm completely responsible for the patching and have to keep up with patch releases and researching that every patch will work/been tested/has no issue with my phone. It also means that whatever custom patching I've done might be incompatible with official patches. It is, at times, maddening.

With Apple, you're either running the latest or you're out of support.

And how is that different than Android? It's exactly the same but with Android I have the option to root. Sorta. Maybe. For most people the "sorta . . . maybe" isn't worth it. As someone who has to administer Windows, OS X, and Linux, I have no desire to be a full time security admin at home.

Apple support their hardware with core OS releases longer, but security wise there's little separating the companies with Google providing security patching all the way back to the original release which separated security from feature updates.

Again, Google provides the patches. Those patches might never make it to my Android for a long list of reasons.