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Re:So, is there any shred of EVIDENCE?
http://www.geopolymer.org/arch...
(Col.18)..
.I found the god standing.. .he spoke to me: “I am Khnum, your creator, My arms are around you, to steady your body, to
(Col. 19) safeguard your limbs. I bestow on you rare ores upon rare ores since creation nobody ever processed them (to make stone) for building the temples of the gods or rebuilding the ruined temples” -
Re:Not all the blocks
A whole website about the topic geopolymer.org
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Re:Stupid theory...
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Re:So, is there any shred of EVIDENCE?
See below
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Re:Corroborating Hieroglyphics?
Nope! They are poured concrete, and now we use the same method to make landing strips in Saudi for the first Gulf War. You can land a c130 on them 48 hrs later. Nova had him cast 5 blocks in place in 1 day with 5 men. With copper tools it takes like 6 months just to cut one block. Who cares how they moved them, how did they machine them? Geopolymer answers all those questions and more.
The Pharos were also they only ones on the planet that knew how to make beer. The labor was paid for in BEER! They had two teams peer day that would race to see who could complete more blocks. I have no proof but I think the winning team got MORE BEER!
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Re: Deja vu
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Re:Geopolymer Concrete
Oh, and here's a link to some of the fancy videos.
http://www.geopolymer.org/archaeology/pyramids/pyr amids-4-videos-download-chapter-1
CGI vs. Francophones in Egyptian preist costumes. You be the judge! -
Geopolymer Concrete
There's a better explanation that this, and its been around for about ten years. (another) French theorist, Joseph Davidovitz, has shown how the Kufu pyramid could have been made of a limestone polymer: a kind of concrete. His theory has the blocks being cast in reusable molds, in situ, rather than carved or moved.
All the mineral materials were nearby and easily mined. Given enough skilled teams, blocks could have easily been cast in place at what we now consider an astonishing rate. It also explains why the joints between the blocks are perfectly fitted. Transportation costs could have been kept low, because only small batches of material needed to be moved at a time: in relay chains rather than massive hauling projects.
http://www.geopolymer.org/archaeology/pyramids/are -pyramids-made-out-of-concrete-1
Incidentally, It's no surprise that the French are always coming out with theories on the Pyramids. They invented Egyptology during the Napoleonic era. -
Re:I can hear the Egyptologists now...
Ah, yes
"[your quote], whereas plain concrete gets to this strength after several days."
Did you not read the whole sentence you were quoting or did you just not expect me to? -
Re:I can hear the Egyptologists now...
And that the concrete would need to cure for days,
Ah, no.
From the link:"The geopolymeric cement reaches a compression strength of 20 Mpa after 4 hours, ..." -
Re:A little insight
Please forgive my mispelling of sophisticated. It also happens to be the week before finals here at Drexel and I'm exhausted
;-).
To make up for it, here's two very convincing videos from the Geopolymer Institute:
http://www.geopolymer.org/archaeology/pyramids/pyr amids-4-videos-download-chapter-1 -
Re:Another Book for Graham Hancock?
Actually, a more plausible story would be that they used some artificial rocks (like concrete, made out of sand).
http://www.geopolymer.org/category/archaeology/pyr amids/
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Re:What if it Was Simpler Than That?t's a lovely theory that's only slightly spoiled by the fact that even a casual observer can tell a limestone block from concrete.
Ummm... wrong.
I think this is really the only theory anyone has put forth that actually makes sense.
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Alright, I admit......that I didn't watch the special, but considering most of the comments here about how the two hours were "wasted time" (plus I have seen similar Hawiss "specials" that were just as wasteful) - I am glad I didn't. With that out of the way...
What is this talk of fingerprint(s) on the sarcophagus? Was this a marking, or an impression? One comment seems to indicate that the print was an impression or something - so what was the sarcophagus made from? Clay? Were such things made from clay? I had always thought they were carved from stone?
But if the sarcophagus was stone, why the print? What if it was a concrete substance, rather than "stone"? You could certainly make a print in that...
There is a theory that the Egyptians had the technology and resources (ie, sand, limestone, something from the Red Sea) to make concrete, and the theory would explain how some of the pyramids (esp the Great Pyramid) and temple structures could have been built, even though they are so large - they were simply "poured" into place. At least, that's the theory...
I am trying to figure out why all the doors on the tunnel - what theory fits this, what the tunnel may have been for (I have seen a site that claims the Great Pyramid was a giant water pump - but that doesn't make much sense since it was built when the area had plenty of water and was fertile), those handles on the doors (why?), among other things...
Finally, I do have to wonder about that robot - that is a TON of money for what should be a relatively simple robot - I can understand that the sides of the tunnel were smooth, and at an angle (ie, needs more than a standard robot wheel drive), but quarter of a mil? Right - time to find the person who pocketed the dough...
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Re:Midgets anyone?
You should check out this site for a possible answer to your question.
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Re:Enter from the outside...
One of the more interesting aspects of the pyramids is that there are NO gaps between the stone "blocks." There is an interesting theory that the stones are actually huge concrete blocks that were cast in place, rather than giant stones that were carved and dragged hundreds of miles.
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I agree that slaves were not the only workers
But I have still never heard of a compelling scheme of how to move the stones into position. Asuming they were big blocks of rock.
Anyway, many of the later pyramids dissolved into what looks like huge mounds of mud. This makes me think that maybe there may be another explenation-- And then I cam across this. Maybe, just maybe, they were not carved blocks of stone, but rather something like concrete. -
They poured those blocks, baby
The most reasonable explanation of how they created the blocks that constitute the pyramids is that they poured them into place, just as we do today with cement. The actual cement may be better described as a geopolymer .
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Here is the book, though out of print...
First off, a link:
Geopolymers
Also, look into "agglomerated stone"...
The man who (re?)discovered this technique, was one Prof. Joseph Davidovits.
Here is his book (unfortunately, it is out of print. I found my copy only a couple of years ago in the discount section of a local Bookstar, so you might check), which is available in PDF format (for the price of 9 euros, which is reasonable):
The Pyramids: An Enigma Solved
The first chapter is available for free online as well - so check that out...
Worldcom - Generation Duh! -
Here is the book, though out of print...
First off, a link:
Geopolymers
Also, look into "agglomerated stone"...
The man who (re?)discovered this technique, was one Prof. Joseph Davidovits.
Here is his book (unfortunately, it is out of print. I found my copy only a couple of years ago in the discount section of a local Bookstar, so you might check), which is available in PDF format (for the price of 9 euros, which is reasonable):
The Pyramids: An Enigma Solved
The first chapter is available for free online as well - so check that out...
Worldcom - Generation Duh! -
Here is the book, though out of print...
First off, a link:
Geopolymers
Also, look into "agglomerated stone"...
The man who (re?)discovered this technique, was one Prof. Joseph Davidovits.
Here is his book (unfortunately, it is out of print. I found my copy only a couple of years ago in the discount section of a local Bookstar, so you might check), which is available in PDF format (for the price of 9 euros, which is reasonable):
The Pyramids: An Enigma Solved
The first chapter is available for free online as well - so check that out...
Worldcom - Generation Duh! -
Re:Best theory I have seen so far...
This is talked about in the book, IIRC. I don't remember off hand what the reasoning was, but I do remember it being sound and well thought out. I will have to find the book tonight, post the details, and let you know what the reasoning behind the found quarries are...
One thing the story about the kites got right is that all attempts to build pyramids and other structures based on the currently accepted theories have tended to fail. Plus, these theories don't explain how it was possible for other societies to build extreme megalithic structures (start looking into it - you will find one account of a solid stone "foundation" stone - of several hundred tons, sitting up on the side of a mountain!)...
Here is a link - look into geopolymers and "agglomerated stone"...
OH! OH!
Here is the book - available in electronic format, out of print now (I found mine only a couple of years ago in the discount section of a local Bookstar, so you might check), but cheap: The Pyramids: An Enigma Solved - plus, the first chapter is online, as well...
Want some more fun? Look into the history and stories behind the Coral Castle - a fascinating site in Florida, that is stranger than fiction, if only because it involves megalithic proportion construction on a massive scale, built by a single man, who not only was in poor health and only weighed 100 pounds, but who also had only a fourth-grade education!!! The site was started in 1920, and completed in 1940. Yet no one knows how he did it...
This is a site I plan to visit later this year (along with Gibtown)...
Worldcom - Generation Duh! -
Re:Best theory I have seen so far...
This is talked about in the book, IIRC. I don't remember off hand what the reasoning was, but I do remember it being sound and well thought out. I will have to find the book tonight, post the details, and let you know what the reasoning behind the found quarries are...
One thing the story about the kites got right is that all attempts to build pyramids and other structures based on the currently accepted theories have tended to fail. Plus, these theories don't explain how it was possible for other societies to build extreme megalithic structures (start looking into it - you will find one account of a solid stone "foundation" stone - of several hundred tons, sitting up on the side of a mountain!)...
Here is a link - look into geopolymers and "agglomerated stone"...
OH! OH!
Here is the book - available in electronic format, out of print now (I found mine only a couple of years ago in the discount section of a local Bookstar, so you might check), but cheap: The Pyramids: An Enigma Solved - plus, the first chapter is online, as well...
Want some more fun? Look into the history and stories behind the Coral Castle - a fascinating site in Florida, that is stranger than fiction, if only because it involves megalithic proportion construction on a massive scale, built by a single man, who not only was in poor health and only weighed 100 pounds, but who also had only a fourth-grade education!!! The site was started in 1920, and completed in 1940. Yet no one knows how he did it...
This is a site I plan to visit later this year (along with Gibtown)...
Worldcom - Generation Duh! -
We all know they were built from concrete
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reccomended book on practical pyramid theoryThe Pyramids: An Enigma Solved by Joseph Davidovits. Amazon link here
Davidovits also runs www.geopolymer.org, and is extremely knowledgable in geopolymer technology, which is what led him to do Pyramid research. Afer reading his straightforward and forthright facts about the physics of scale in carving and hauling massive blocks, one can see why the conventional theories of pyramid building fall apart very quickly.
He suggests that the Pyramids are made of agglomerated, man-made stone. A very very quick gloss over of his theory is available on his website here.
While the book doesn't go into detail about the astronomical alignment, many other theories brought up in the followup threads are questioned and addressed, including the dangerously stupid "brothers from space" idea.
--Mike
Mike Massee