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Re:And yet
Actually, there are some people who travel in a mode not unlike homelessness. I did a few hitchhiking tours around Europe, back before I'd heard of couchsurfing and hospitality club, where I would hitchhike and camp out in cities (an urban camper, as the parent says), cooking food on a Primus gas stove, washing up at gas stations and occasionally scoring a shower at someone's house. I never actually dumpster dove, but with the right attitude and weather, guerrilla camping can feel strangely liberating, especially if you do it in Scandinavia, where it's perfectly legal. For more on guerrilla camping, see here: http://www.gnn.tv/B10394
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Re:What Intel should do...
What Intel should do: pull out of Europe.
I'm sure the AMD execs would be like this dog
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Re:Sorry, but I have to consider the source
Unfortunately the Constitution can be ignored by the President if that suits him. Who is going to stop him? The Congress is under his party's control (as if that matters, really) and anything with the Supreme Court will take years to decide. The 2nd Amendment is routinely denied by a variety of means (mostly psychological warfare against clueless voters,) and it was G. W. Bush who created "First Amendment Zones" - implicitly denying the right everywhere else near his Royal persona. Photographers were attacked by police at both party conventions. Bush said that the constitution is "just a goddamned piece of paper" and he was speaking from experience.
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Re:European Parliament
When has the European Parliament and the public interest ever coincided?
Hum let me think
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When it voted against the 3-strikes law for downloaders?
When it voted against software patents?
When it voted for restrictions on the use of radioactive weapons?
The EU Parliament can really hardly be criticized, except for the fact that it doesn't have that much power, which in my opinion is a real pity. Go troll elsewhere. -
Go, Libertarians!
The good news is that, like Ron Paul's supporters, I'll be able to easily tell if Diebold ate my vote.
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Have we only seen "one side of the story"?
How far does something have to be to the right to count for you? Law enforcement is bought and paid for and working for the people in power.
The FBI says: this.
ABC says this.
Do the police there have a history of unjustified assaults into houses and then trying to pretend that it's okay? Yes, they do.
Are there more police assaults not being mentioned here? Yes, there are. They've been quite busy. Overwhelming force against people who haven't resisted seems to be a constant.
Now, like all of us, I would love to see a more detailed statement from the police. But I've just been looking and what I'm mostly finding is variations on: "Minneapolis/St. Paul police could not be reached for comment Saturday." -
Re:...Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
No they are all facts.
The US has the worlds 2nd largest stockpile of chemical weapons. We have less than Russia now, because we have been slowly destroying our supplies, but only since 2006 have we dropped into second place.. We still have 15,000 metric tons of nerve agents and mustard gas.
The CIA has been training terrorists since the 1950s. Most of the anti-American sentiment around the world can be traced to CIA operations attempting to influence foreign politics.
In 2006 the US Army patented A rifle-muzzle launched payload delivering projectile ...5. The projectile of claim 4, wherein the aerosol composition is further selected from the group consisting of smoke, crowd control agents, biological agents, chemical agents, obscurants, marking agents, dyes and inks, chaffs and flakes.
The US government ignores the UN whenever it is convenient. The US has used it's military on foreign soil 70 times since 1980.
To prevent future moral failings, we must first as a country acknowledge the failings of the recent past. To hide our heads in the sand and pretend that US hasn't earned the animosity of the terrorists and insurgents we fight is to ensure our failure both in the battles we fight and in our rapidly eroding position as a world leader. Ignorance is unpatriotic. -
Re:Bill of RightsClearly we can trust comcast and our government to help us. This is just a means to
1) pacify the FCC and
2) help identify non-blessed p2p applications
I'll support surveillance just as soon as every public official has a camera and mic pointed at them 24x7.
Mayor(California,SF) Gavin Newsom proposed public surveillance cameras for San Franciso in November of 2005.
This is humorously ironic, since if he'd had surveillance cameras in his office, it's likely he wouldn't be mayor (due to a highly publicized affair with one of his married aides in 2006)
But after all, as Bush has said circa 2005 "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it's just a goddamned piece of paper"Self regulation is crap. If comcast thinks they need to self-regulate, then what harm is there in making it as law? After all as Bush often claims, why do you worry about surveillance, if you are not breaking the law?
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Here is more info
Don't worry the US government is exempt from this and so are it's minions. Goodluck http://gnn.tv/headlines/14892/U_S_to_freeze_asset
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the Complex, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961These 14 rapacious monsters (Caterpillar, Chevron, CocaCola, Dow, Dyncorp, Ford, KBR-Halliburton, Lockheed, Monsanto, Nestle, Phillip Morris, Pfizer, SLDE, Walmart all of whom have disgusting track records of either exploitation, environmental destruction, corruption, or some combination thereof?
Government is the only remaining bullwark between the thugs who run industry and the people they use up as labour resource and then destroy as a product. Yeah... because no one involved in the highest decision making layers of these corporations ever got elected? -
History Challenged?Mandatory reading for all those history-challenged individuals who believe government knows best!
As compared to whom? The history challenged individuals who think corporations know best?
Like Shell Oil?
Or Texaco?
Or Enron?
Or These 14 rapacious monsters (Caterpillar, Chevron, CocaCola, Dow, Dyncorp, Ford, KBR-Halliburton, Lockheed, Monsanto, Nestle, Phillip Morris, Pfizer, SLDE, Walmart all of whom have disgusting track records of either exploitation, environmental destruction, corruption, or some combination thereof?
Government is the only remaining bullwark between the thugs who run industry and the people they use up as labour resource and then destroy as a product. It is the only safeguard the environment has: if governments do not constrain industry, then industry will always look at the quarterly report and continue to crap all over the planet. And given how collusive government is with industry, it is NOT a pretty or welcoming picture - as government has, for the past several thousand years, proven itself to be little more than the means of protecting and projecting the interests of the ruling classes. The struggle is real, not imagined. And it is only through a re-imagined and re-energised public sector will our species have any hope of surviving the coming crises in Energy, Environment, and Population reduction.
It is the poster who is historically challenged and politically ignorant.
RS
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Re:Be kind to Bill Gates
Bill Gates: Killing Africans for profit and P.R. Mr. Bushs bogus Aids Offer
Report: Gates Foundation Causing Harm With the Same Money It Uses To Do Good
Yes, Gates is soo GOOOOD. Lets all praise him and his crazy huge mansion. -
Re:What are they avoiding (besides paying taxes)?
P.S. Remember when Cheney refused to sell his Haliburton stock when appointed VP? He also resisted placing it into a blind trust and if I remember correctly, continues to receive compensation from Haliburton.
I love when folks with little/no understanding of executive and deferred compensation say stuff like this. Shows their ignorance.
Like when the press sensationalizes 'semiautomatic' weapons. Yup. One pull, one bullet...but semiautomatic sounds so sexy.
FWIW, Cheney sold the stock he could and gave the proceeds to charity. As for the deferred comp, there's nothing that Cheney or Halliburton can do.
But I don't see any of you kneejerk anti-Bushies getting up in arms over Al Gore's ties to Occidental Petroleum. Oh wait, everybody does it... -
Well, if John Carmack says so. . .Ugh. . !
If such a leading luminary of non-violent daydreams as John Carmack says it's possible, then hey, it has to be real, right?
Thank-you again, Mr. Carmack, for stepping in at the appropriate moment to provide the world with yet another on-ramp toward hostility, and this time while claiming the high ground. I don't know what's worse, that you sound earnest and convincing, or that you are well-respected enough among the circles of geekdom to actually have an effect upon the status quo. Ugh, either way. Just go back to making your, 'de-sensitize-the-hot-young-bucks-in-time-for-war' murder games, please. The situation in the real world is messed up enough as it is.
Whatever the case. . .
Dudes with bombs and box-cutters working independently is still the false reality which needs to be understood here. The myth of terrorists is the preferred tool for building the fascist state. Luckily, this is increasingly well understood. It's the 'How' which seems to be causing some hiccups.
I've heard every well-meaning argument in the book. --One of the main contenders being, "Well, if you continue to oppress a people, eventually they will rise up! It's the only way left to them."
Semi-true on one level, but still. . . Fascist empire builders have agendas to keep and can't really be expected to wait around for angry oppressed individuals from far away to blow up airliners on schedule. So how does the war machine kick it into gear?
How about a little mind control?
--It would certainly go a distance in explaining the actions of some of the supposedly fundamentalist Islamic terrorists in the prelude to the grand 9-11 performance acting in ways most un-Islamic. (Booze and Cocaine and Women won't win the devout many points with Allah.) So what's the story here? Were they fundamentalist terrorists, or were they dupe mercenaries who didn't know what they were signing up for, and who were allowed to bring off their clutzy plan while the US secret services conveniently looked the other way, while the secret/shadow government provided access to the remote controlled jets actually capable of performing the precision flying which badly-trained mercenary goof-balls could not have been asked to manage, and while the Israeli-owned security companies which held contracts at each of the airports involved during 9-11, gave them fast-lane service at the boarding check points?
Well, I can't say pardner, but I do know that when you're calling those kinds of shots, you're in the High Country!
-FL"President Bush revealed today there is a shadow government run by people who live outside of Washington in bunkers in case Washington was ever attacked. I thought the shadow government was the one Enron bought with all those contributions." --Jay Leno
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protection of foreign economic interests is validprotection of foreign economic interests is valid?
No. Just because many people and their nations have done so since the dawn of civilization does not make it a valid move (bandwagon.)
The "protection" of economic interests fuel and even are the underlying causes for a great many wars and covert acts all over the world (gaining a lock on mutually exclusive resources.)
Allowing nations to perceive it as a VALID means to their ends will allow them to continue excusing it and perpetuating such actions in the world. (Before you say "welcome to the real world," think about the same reasoning on a smaller local scale in a "civilized" community vs an "uncivilized" community.)
Iraq is about Oil Dollars and finally Americans are figuring that out (well, just the oil part.) Its a complete failure because we are not getting the oil and we are losing oil dollars. We are keeping the large war machine employed; however, its at the gamble of destroying the economy. Four large military bases in Iraq will probably not secure economic interests either (remember, the same people wrote the plan in the 90s-- the few experts I've met said they knew this underlying stuff was wrong decades ago. Wrong for long term empire and wrong ethically.)
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Re:Um, come again?
That's when they can be punished. Even when Canada did not have a written constitution or bill of rights, this speech was still protected extensively.
Hate speech is in fact legal. it is inciting violence which is not legal, and, to my knowledge, is not legal in the US either. If that is the case, can you explain what happened to this man? -
Re:if 2008 is really hot, Al Gore should run ...
Yeah, that will solve our problems: a guy who went from duller than wet paint to a raving, foaming-at-the-mouth, screaming, beholden-to-the-radical-fringe-left lunatic. Al Gore's real environmental record is so full of "inconvenient truths" that it's mind-numbing how such a fucking hypocrite can get away with saying the things he does. Looky: http://www.gnn.tv/articles/2332/More_Inconvenient
_ Truths_About_Al_Gore . You'd be amazed what comes up when you google for "Al Gore hypocrite" . Only a damned fool would listen to anything that "do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do" fuckwad has to say. -
Re:here come the shallow idealists
I have to say, you're just simply wrong...
The problem is that the idealists are in the minority, while the shallow whiners who will do anything to save a buck are the majority.
Personally, I haven't gone in to a walmart in several years, even though it's the closest store to me. Personally, I'm happy to pay twice as much if it means I don't have to dig through piles of junk strewn around the store, don't get treated like cattle, and don't have to wait in absouletely massively long lines, because they don't want to open another register.
What's more, paying twice as much, elsewhere, usually puts you out ahead... Instead of getting cheap crap at Walmart, you can get decent-quality crap elsewhere, which will be better from day 1, and last a lot longer as well.
I think the real of Walmart becomes most obvious when you compare Sam's Club with Costco:
http://gnn.tv/articles/239/The_Wal_Mart_Myth
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Re:here come the shallow idealists
I have to say, you're just simply wrong...
The problem is that the idealists are in the minority, while the shallow whiners who will do anything to save a buck are the majority.
Personally, I haven't gone in to a walmart in several years, even though it's the closest store to me. Personally, I'm happy to pay twice as much if it means I don't have to dig through piles of junk strewn around the store, don't get treated like cattle, and don't have to wait in absouletely massively long lines, because they don't want to open another register.
What's more, paying twice as much, elsewhere, usually puts you out ahead... Instead of getting cheap crap at Walmart, you can get decent-quality crap elsewhere, which will be better from day 1, and last a lot longer as well.
I think the real of Walmart becomes most obvious when you compare Sam's Club with Costco:
http://gnn.tv/articles/239/The_Wal_Mart_Myth
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He's not a philanthropist *or* stupid
http://gnn.tv/articles/476/White_Man_s_Burden
He has "given away for free various medicines" so that countries that were thinking of ignoring the laws that protect the formulas of said medicines and mass produce them no longer have a reason to. The same international laws that protect his windows monopoly. -
The Constitution is obsolete.
Come on! Everybody knows that the constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper.
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Re:No particular, but any?
Also, as of Dec. 30th, there was a bill on Gov. Bill Taft's desk, called the Ohio Patriot Act which would require citizens to show ID upon request or face being arrested.
"The lengthy piece of legislation would let police arrest people in public places who will not give their names, address and birth dates, even if they are not doing anything wrong.
WEWS reported it would also pave the way for everyone entering critical transportation sites such as, train stations, airports and bus stations to show ID."
http://nievedenoche.gnn.tv/headlines/6851/Show_ID_ Or_Go_To_Jail
Most cops in any state now will arrest you for not providing name and birthdate, regardless of if there is a law requiring it. -
Cool Tools for Tyrants
The february issue of legal affairs happens to have an interesting feature on this topic: "The latest American technology helps the Chinese government and other repressive regimes clamp down." Ofcourse there's nothing new under the sun here, since during the second world war when Hitler had a problem, IBM did it's very best to provide the solution (IBM and the Holocaust). Only differnce is, that back then, it was illegal to do so...
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Re:First Anonymous Post
President Bush sucksIf only it were true. He seems to be able to lie us into a war, shred the constitution, hand out important government jobs like stocking stuffers to incompetent nitwits, give aid and comfort to our enemies in time of war, suppress political descent, and run up enormous debt in our name to enrich his backers, and there doesn't seem to be anything the hand wringing "opposition" party can do to stop him.
If only he sucked , he's be out of there so fast his head would spin.
--MarkusQ
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A real NSA story
or lack of from USofA 'news' media http://www.gnn.tv/articles/2003/NSA_Spied_on_U_N_
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Re:Overpriced Gaming
I have no problem with the fees, I just think it's a little too high. They could easily afford to make it $10 a month with the million or so subscribers they have...
...and no, this isn't really part of the "messed up stuff", but it's important to me as it's my chosen industry. -
Re:Outrageously exceeding authority
From the Guerilla News Network, perhaps the original interview:
"I'm sitting there in a chair. The store's full of people watching this. All of a sudden, [a Baltimore County cop is] standing me up and handcuffing me behind my back, telling me, 'We have to do this until we get it straightened out.' Bolesta was then taken to the county police lockup in Cockeysville, where he sat handcuffed to a pole and in leg irons [for three hours] while the Secret Service was called in."
Best Buy isn't the worst villain here. Beware Baltimore County...
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The Two Dollar Man
As a sign of protest, Bolesta decided to pay using only $2 bills
Here is a link that doesn't require registration.
Man what a rebel. Two dollar bills, can you believe it!
I find this whole story hard to swallow, I worked at a grocery store all through high-school and I knew this guy who would pay in $2 bills all the time, I can't say it really bothered me other then there isn't a place in the till to put them.
I find it hard to believe that someone has NEVER seen a $2 bill. It's not like they are hard to come across. Surely there must have been another reason for him being arrested... -
Re:Does this mean Kerry will win?To compare Iraq to Germany or Japan is pure obscurantism. Firstly, the war against the Axis was justified according to the "just war" theory (I suggest you read up on this), unlike Iraq. Both countries had industrial economies that were devastated by the war (bombed into rubble). Industrial economies rely heavily on both basic infrastructure and higher level infrastructure, all of which take time to rebuild.
"Wars are a disruptive societal force. That's why they are generally bad. Unfortunately, at times they are necessary" - this is true in the general case, but it certainly wasn't "necessary" by any means for Iraq. You seem to believe the propaganda that this war was for the benefit of the "Iraqi people" - it was not. I suggest you read this link, which along with Paul O'Neill's (former Bush cabinet member)testimony provides sufficient evidence that Bush Jr. planned to invade Iraq as early as 1999. 9/11 merely provided camouflage and a cassus belli to deceive the sadly trusting public.
And no, despite what you may have heard from Cheney, Iraq is not linked to 9/11.
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Re:What money?This is true - a Bush biographer has come out with the story, and this corroborates what Paul O'Neill has said as well. See this article for more information.
Here's an excerpt:
Houston: Two years before the September 11 attacks, presidential candidate George W. Bush was already talking privately about the political benefits of attacking Iraq, according to his former ghost writer, who held many conversations with then-Texas Governor Bush in preparation for a planned autobiography.
After reading about this bit of shameful opportunism at the expense of so many lives, I wonder how anyone can contemplate voting for Bush.
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Re:zerg
For all those who think that Eminem's Mosh is awesome, try to keep it in perspective. It's mostly a bunch of anti-Bush imagery and a mob thrown together, with a "don't forget to vote" message thrown in at the end. Yes, I am impressed that Eminem's music was put to something that is somewhat meaningful, but Eminem's "White America" was better by far.
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zerg
I'm amused that this got an FPP, but Eminem's Mosh didn't. MTV wasn't going to play it, but counterterrorists flooded the request page and forced them to play it.
Same site also has a pretty good analysis of the video.
If you haven't seen the video, then please watch it. Regardless of what you think of Eminem (in fact, the video probably assumes you know who he is and have already formed your preconceptions), the climax is pretty damn amazing. -
Re:Misleading/slanderous headline
There's a difference between making a gun and making a gun that only kills black people, isn't there?
In the case of the former, it can certainly be argued that the gunmaker is not the killer, it's the people that use their guns maliciously.
In the case of the latter however, there is clear malice in the very act of making the gun.
Companies forsaking the most basic morals in favour of their bottom line, is certainly not new.
For some people the sound of tools which aid in rounding up dissidents is particularly unnerving. Punched cards were just a tool, but they were used to 'identify' jews, communists and other unwanted elements of the Third Reich.
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Re:And now they'll all get slashdotted
There's got to be more political story behind this.
The more political story is that the world is getting more and more wise to the idea that the current US administration is at the least in bed with Sharon's government in Israel, and at the most is controlled by them. This is well-documented on many reputable media websites such as The Guardian and The Independent, not to mention independent media sites like GNN and Indymedia. The story mentioned in the article describes a plot, hatched by the US and Israel together, to dispel the rumors about the US-Israel connection before they become commonly accepted fact. -
Re:Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theori
Well, as others have said, it's not about censorship, but about underreported stories. And when you see how the US press does it's "reporting" these days, it's no wonder why they are underreported. But don't take my word for it, Greg Palast is an american reporter (living in the UK), and he wrote the following in a recent book:
"I freely offered up to CBS this information: The office of the governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, brother of the republican presidential candidate, had illegally ordered the removal of the names of felons from voter rolls - real felons who had served time but obtained clemency, with the legal right to vote under Florida law. [...] The next day I received a call from the producer, who said, "I'm sorry, but your story didn't hold up." And how do you think the multibillion-dollar CBS network determined this? Answer: "We called Jeb Bush's office." Oh."
What it boils down to is that reporters generally don't bother to actually investigate and report anything anymore, they mostly just cut and paste from official press releases (there are exceptions, thank god, such as BBC news).
Anyways, what bothers me is that it is true - the neoconservatives want world domination. And they're not even trying to hide it. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and many other friends of Bush are part of a neo-conservative think-tank called the Project for a New American Century. To quote from the PNACs official website: "The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle; and that too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership."
There is an excellent, well-researched article on GNN by a former british member of parliament, Michael Meacher, on how Afghanistan and Iraq both are part of an PNAC plan on establishing a US presence in the middle-east to secure future oil-supplies. This plan was first described in a document, called Rebuilding America's Defences, which was published by PNAC in september 2000.
I want you to just please read the article (it won't take more than 10 minutes of your time), and then tell me something's not going on here...
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Re:Here, Censored News = Liberal Conspiracy Theori
Well, as others have said, it's not about censorship, but about underreported stories. And when you see how the US press does it's "reporting" these days, it's no wonder why they are underreported. But don't take my word for it, Greg Palast is an american reporter (living in the UK), and he wrote the following in a recent book:
"I freely offered up to CBS this information: The office of the governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, brother of the republican presidential candidate, had illegally ordered the removal of the names of felons from voter rolls - real felons who had served time but obtained clemency, with the legal right to vote under Florida law. [...] The next day I received a call from the producer, who said, "I'm sorry, but your story didn't hold up." And how do you think the multibillion-dollar CBS network determined this? Answer: "We called Jeb Bush's office." Oh."
What it boils down to is that reporters generally don't bother to actually investigate and report anything anymore, they mostly just cut and paste from official press releases (there are exceptions, thank god, such as BBC news).
Anyways, what bothers me is that it is true - the neoconservatives want world domination. And they're not even trying to hide it. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and many other friends of Bush are part of a neo-conservative think-tank called the Project for a New American Century. To quote from the PNACs official website: "The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle; and that too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership."
There is an excellent, well-researched article on GNN by a former british member of parliament, Michael Meacher, on how Afghanistan and Iraq both are part of an PNAC plan on establishing a US presence in the middle-east to secure future oil-supplies. This plan was first described in a document, called Rebuilding America's Defences, which was published by PNAC in september 2000.
I want you to just please read the article (it won't take more than 10 minutes of your time), and then tell me something's not going on here...
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Re:69% Americas believe Saddam caused 9-11
I've got a couple of links for you... Perhaps not excactly what you want, but they should help clear up some misunderstandings.
http://www.gnn.tv/war_on_terrorism/doc2869.html
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmeric asDefenses.pdf
Please read these, and then tell me that iraq, or even afghanistan, had anything to do with 9/11 and the war on terror at all (except being used as a smoke-screen).
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Re:Paranoia
IBM IS a evil corporation
IBM helped the nazi's find jews to kill
and was a monopoly up to the anti-trust lawsuit ever scence the then IBM has been very strait forward. The develpoer community has favored IBM do to their self interest from IBM's support. IBM isnt a non-profit org supporting OSS. They are a company and one that makes money and gives money back to the community. They understand open source and know its a win-win situation. Truthfully anyone that adopts OSS will find themselfs going with the grain so to speak.so IBM is evil, and dumps money to our own self interests.
Who cares? Welcome to America
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Re:Use a pencil and paper!I was going to moderate you up, but decided to reply instead. (somebody else please do it)
I agree with you that the Pen+Paper Method is clearly the best one when it comes to tamper resistant elections.
The problem with people voting multiple times can be eliminated by having to present an ID. It helps further if there exists some kind of required place of residence registration, so there's one and only one place where you can cast your vote. (I don't know how feasible this is in big countrys like Australia and the US though.)Further on, I think a broader involvement of people in the democratic process strengthens the ties between them and their democratic system.
Putting almost always intransparent machines between you and the elected outcome, with no person supervising the correctness of the votecast (vote for gore, get registered as a vote for gore) and almost no proof (what makes you think the paper printouts are correct?) gives me the creeps.The term "Voting Machine" has a bad taste to me, it almost sounds like the machine is voting instead of me, rather than just counting my vote.
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Re:Wrong
I'm fairly certain he has also explicitly said "Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists". I got that quote from this movie (at 1 minute 27 seconds). Although that movie is one big cut-and-paste job of a ton of fragments (and most definitely created by a person who is very much against GWB's actions), that particular quote seems to be one single fragment (although they left 0.1 second or so out of it to keep up with the rhythm of the music; you can see the text at the bottom suddenly slightly jumps after "Either you're with us", but it's still the same scroller and text).
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Not unbiased, not mainstream either.
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The Best you'll find
the best source I've been able to find is Guerrilla News Network (gnn.tv)
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Hey...
Didn't IBM support the nazis?
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Support
Seeing as GNN has been rendered inoperable by the
/. deathstar, you can check out S-11 Redux along with 55 minutes of GNN's other short fim content on our DVD. You can order it here. This would also really help with the now massive streaming bill. FYI: Our videos have been selected for short film and video festivals in Europe, Canada and the United States. Crack the CIA was the overall winner of the Live Action Category of the 2002 Sundance On-Line Film Festival. -
Re:problems
Several decades ago a guy in Germany had a problem... IBM had the solution. Participation in the construction of the "great red firewall" is not a case of simply selling a product, it's a case of supporting humans rights violations for personal gain.
If people would *really* draw lessons from the past, life would be completely different.
"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation," the leader of a country once wrote. "We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland."
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here are some goood onestext heavy: http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/completetimeli
n etext light: http://www.gnn.tv/after_math/index.html