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Someone already forked Gnome, and it does not look like it's going anywhere. Also emember that part of the X.Org reaction was the license change of XFree86.

This has been going on for quite some time. That is why people who are fed up started their own Gnome branch, GoneMe that fixes the things they think are wrong with Gnome.

I compile everything from ports. I even compiled cvsup (go go Modula-3!). I compiled KDE from scratch, and will do it again when 3.4 hits ports. It's not a big deal, even on old hardware.

What IS a big deal is compiling an app like Azureus, and it has Mozilla as a dependency. I have the entire Mozilla browser on my system, alongside Firefox (which I also compiled), because Azureus probably uses some small library that only comes with Mozilla.

KDE does a good job of separating out things into applications and libraries, without fragmenting things all to hell like gnome does. As always, the beauty of open source is that you can fork if the previous team is doing a shitty job.

"you probably don't know the first thing about HCI"

Apparently, neither do any of the users who have to put-up with GTK/gnome weirdness.

goneme

[genie voice]
your wish is my command...
[/genie voice]

http://www.goneme.org/

which seems to be down at the moment?

UIs in Opensource seem to be a problem for those who are new to opensource software. While I applaud opensource programmer's efforts in creating easier software which invites more users, I can't help but feel that "tainting the userbase" can come with serious unintended consequences. As you move towards user friendly software, you run the risk of alienating users who like user spiteful software.

When Microsoft introduced "task oriented" design (such as with folders and control panel applets), they didn't forget about the old users, leaving the option to revert to "classic" views. For the most part, my Windows XP desktop at work looks like Windows 95, and I like it like that.

Gnome, on the other hand, strived so much for usable software that they alienated their userbase, and thus we have GoneME--indeed, their Project Goals are admirable.

So much is focused on making opensource pass the Mom test, but I'm afraid of it failing the experienced users test in the process.

--sean

UIs in Opensource seem to be a problem for those who are new to opensource software. While I applaud opensource programmer's efforts in creating easier software which invites more users, I can't help but feel that "tainting the userbase" can come with serious unintended consequences. As you move towards user friendly software, you run the risk of alienating users who like user spiteful software.

When Microsoft introduced "task oriented" design (such as with folders and control panel applets), they didn't forget about the old users, leaving the option to revert to "classic" views. For the most part, my Windows XP desktop at work looks like Windows 95, and I like it like that.

Gnome, on the other hand, strived so much for usable software that they alienated their userbase, and thus we have GoneME--indeed, their Project Goals are admirable.

So much is focused on making opensource pass the Mom test, but I'm afraid of it failing the experienced users test in the process.

--sean

Are you dissatisfied with GNOME ? Then take your chance to participate to Project GoneME.

Read people's opinion about the GoneME project:

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If you want a chance to change something then take the chance to participate to the GoneME project. This could be the only offer for a fork and change that you might be getting. Every help is welcome.

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