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Wait I'm confused. The story says the code is not available. Is this not the code?

I'll take the opportunity to plug distcc, which is Incredibuild's equivalent in the open source world. I'm not affiliated with it in any way, but it's a good idea and I'm a happy user.

For those on a chromium based browser (I'm using dragon but any chromium based will work) I'd suggest a little extension called readability redux which turns this irritating as hell "Hey lets spread it over more than a dozen pages to get more adviews!" crapola into a single page, it even lets you set the size so everything is nice and easy to read like a newspaper.

as for TFA whomever came up with a camera dock so you can work your iPod from across the room? A little too much time on their hands methinks.

They are taking without giving in kind.

I noticed Google also disallows crawlers to certain url's on google.com, yet they will happily crawl every url on your site if you don't take similar action to prevent it. We need to put a stop to this madness at once!

Does compressing the swap file, as seen in Connectix RAM Doubler and compcache, help any?

Well, yeah, but some of their APIs are "doing it wrong." Just one example (one that recently burned us): the Google Image Charts API has a neat feature that allows you to fetch the image data to construct an image map of a chart. Just append "&chof=json" to any image request and viola! a nice, handy JSON object.

Except... wait a second! That's totally useless! Why? Because there's no way to actually fetch the JSON object. If you put the URL as the SRC attribute of a script block, it doesn't return an instantiated object. If you try fetching the object through an async request, you'll fail because you violate same-origin policies.

What you really need is a JSONP object, as this fellow complained about earlier. Notice how many responses he's gotten? ZILCH.

Basically the only way you can actually use their handy JSON hook is to set up your own proxy that passes requests along as generated POSTs to Google's server, then returns the results wrapped in an execution block. It's completely asinine.

Well, yeah, but some of their APIs are "doing it wrong." Just one example (one that recently burned us): the Google Image Charts API has a neat feature that allows you to fetch the image data to construct an image map of a chart. Just append "&chof=json" to any image request and viola! a nice, handy JSON object.

Except... wait a second! That's totally useless! Why? Because there's no way to actually fetch the JSON object. If you put the URL as the SRC attribute of a script block, it doesn't return an instantiated object. If you try fetching the object through an async request, you'll fail because you violate same-origin policies.

What you really need is a JSONP object, as this fellow complained about earlier. Notice how many responses he's gotten? ZILCH.

Basically the only way you can actually use their handy JSON hook is to set up your own proxy that passes requests along as generated POSTs to Google's server, then returns the results wrapped in an execution block. It's completely asinine.

Here's the original source over at Google Groups from JBQ http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/3757b189f4e93df0?hl=en&pli=1

Indeed, I suggest watching The Deathbed Vigil , a documentary about the last day at Commodore. It explains how they managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Reading this piece also explains some things. It's disturbing, they had some truly good tech, all destroyed by the absolute incompetence of those at the very top.

I built Gingerbread on a 4-year old mac with 4gb. It took a while, but build times are being reported to take ~25 mins.

So you're arguing that Google is unwilling to tolerate the existence of other ad networks? That's odd, especially considering how many you can find using Google itself. Someone using ads on a service that used a Google IFrame wouldn't stop Google from making money on its own ads.

The other posters have hit the nail on the head. When you're dealing with as much personal data as Google, it would be irresponsible to allow IFrames. The fact that clickjacking isn't on the security radar of most users makes the problem all the more significant.

Google is an advertising company. Nearly all of their sites and services are focused to drive ad revenue.

Please note: 2011-Q3: Total Ad Revenue $9.335B (96%), Other Revenue $0.385M (4%)
Source: Google Financial Results

If Google did allow 3rd party frames of its websites, than that creates the situation that someone else can add their own advertising onto Google's pages/services, and prevents them from completing controlling the entire ad experience and ad revenue.

Personally I don't fault Google for this, since they are behaving exactly as one would expect from an advertising company. I think that other websites sites also need to use JavaScript and web tags to prevent Google using them in frames.

For more examples, Google for 'This content cannot be displayed in a frame' google.

Did you assume I was being sarcastic when I said the sweatshops reduce child prostitution? I'm not being hypocritical at all. I am a proponent of globalization. I have friends in the People's Republic of China, Taiwan, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Mexico, and Guatemala. Admittedly those places are definitely not third world by any means with the exception of a few areas, but it is enough to, at least in my own opinion, grant me some insight. When I say friends I don't mean pretend Skype pen pal buddies from a distant land, but that I have traveled with, eaten with, sweat and bleed with, and even fell in love with these people. I know their entire life stories as intimately as I know my own. I am a American currently living in the United States and I agree with you that many people are completely wrong about many things, especially the well-to-do self-righteous folk. I know children that have to work and despite Western sentiments they are all extremely grateful to have the opportunity to do any kind of decent honorable paid employment nearly regardless of the working conditions. I would like to hear more of your beliefs and personal experiences. You can email me via my google profile: https://plus.google.com/117959146781245295148/about

The UK does not produce anything except some biscuits and cereals (biscuits = cookies).

They are way down on the list of things we make; our pharmaceutical, engineering, chemical and booze industries are much bigger. Here's a moderately recent list of UK exports.

This is sort of how I learned. I was 8 years old when somebody showed me qBasic on the family's 386. It changed my world. My first three years of programming were animated ASCII stick figures, simple story games ("You see a spaceship. Do you want to use missiles or lasers?"), and very basic graphics (like string art using line functions). I had a tacit sense of many programming concepts before I was able to define them.

When I got to traditional computer science courses in college, I realized that they're typically taught the other way around: here's a definition, THEN here are some examples and related puzzles. That's a great format for an academic paper, but it's not exactly "joy of learning" material.

Google Apps has similar limits: 500 external recipients per day for free users. 3000 external recipients if you have a biz or edu account.

Sending limits: http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=166852

Not really.

• Google's limit is 3000 vs 500.
• Google's limit is per user, Microsoft's is per domain. This means one user sending a lot of e-mail can shut down e-mail for the whole company.
• Google's limit applies only to external addresses. There is no limit on e-mails within the domain.
• Google offers multiple ways to work around the limit, including using mailing lists (Google Groups), buying a 3rd party App Engine mail-sending app (or writing one), or using your own SMTP server.

It's also worth noting that Google's service is cheaper. Obviously there's a lot more to both services than just e-mail, so perhaps Microsoft offers some features that justify the higher price. But based on their e-mail services it's hard to see why someone would choose Microsoft.

Iran recentyl claimed to have discovered massive helium reserves:

http://www.google.com/search?q=iran+helium+reserve&site=universal&tbs=cdr%3A1&cd_min=9%2F1%2F2011&cd_max=

Allegedly the estimate is 10 billion cubic meters. That was in September, but there's still no mention in major Western media.

Sending limits

To keep our systems healthy and your account safe, all Google Apps accounts limit the amount of mail a user can send. The limits restrict the number of messages sent per day and the number of recipients per message. After reaching one of these limits, a user cannot send new messages but can still receive incoming email.

Each Google Apps account can currently send to 500 external recipients per day. Google Apps for Business and Education users can send to 3000 external recipients per day. The email addresses can be distributed among the To:, Cc:, and Bcc: fields.

The restriction on sending new mail typically lasts for one hour, but can last as long as 24 hours. A user can access and use the account normally after this period, at which time the sending limits are automatically reset.

LOL Definitely, because they don't have EXACTLY the same thing.

http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=166852

And I forgot, here's a relevant link, http://www.google.com/mobile/voice-actions/ I'm not seeing anything that Siri can do that Android can't do, with the possible exception of scheduling meetings.

Let's assume that Android can actually do everything Siri can - the question is what commands it can understand correctly.

Or, you can get a cheap $4 usb keyboard and a cheap $2 usb mouse. Oh, and as for the display, here's a flat panel that can be had for less than $30

Or, here's a $6 USB KVM that comes with two sets of cables. Google is hard.

Anything else that you're going to add to the equation in order to try to run up the price? We're still several hundred under your figure that you originally quoted, for a Mac Mini, iOS developer account, USB KVM, MDP to VGA adapter, keyboard, display, and mouse.

Or, you can get a cheap $4 usb keyboard and a cheap $2 usb mouse. Oh, and as for the display, here's a flat panel that can be had for less than $30

Or, here's a $6 USB KVM that comes with two sets of cables. Google is hard.

Anything else that you're going to add to the equation in order to try to run up the price? We're still several hundred under your figure that you originally quoted, for a Mac Mini, iOS developer account, USB KVM, MDP to VGA adapter, keyboard, display, and mouse.

Or, you can get a cheap $4 usb keyboard and a cheap $2 usb mouse. Oh, and as for the display, here's a flat panel that can be had for less than $30

Or, here's a $6 USB KVM that comes with two sets of cables. Google is hard.

Anything else that you're going to add to the equation in order to try to run up the price? We're still several hundred under your figure that you originally quoted, for a Mac Mini, iOS developer account, USB KVM, MDP to VGA adapter, keyboard, display, and mouse.

Or, you can get a cheap $4 usb keyboard and a cheap $2 usb mouse. Oh, and as for the display, here's a flat panel that can be had for less than $30

Or, here's a $6 USB KVM that comes with two sets of cables. Google is hard.

Anything else that you're going to add to the equation in order to try to run up the price? We're still several hundred under your figure that you originally quoted, for a Mac Mini, iOS developer account, USB KVM, MDP to VGA adapter, keyboard, display, and mouse.

Indeed, I had to pull up a list of 'droid manufacturers and start iterating through them before I finally found an actual result that indicated some droid do in fact have cracked screens:
HTC vs Apple cracked screens

It's a neat comparison, android vs iphone, except that google has no control over the quality of the screens used. It's like searching for windows cracked screen. The OS has no impact on the glass. However, that glass was used instead of something else, that lies entirely at the feet of Steve Jobs, who insisted on it.

And I forgot, here's a relevant link, http://www.google.com/mobile/voice-actions/ I'm not seeing anything that Siri can do that Android can't do, with the possible exception of scheduling meetings.

The reason for the response is that any reasonable amount of googling or going to Wikipedia would have provided clear answers to this question. Furthermore, the people telling him not to bother are doing so on reasonable ground: the radiation levels would have to be much higher or in his house to cause any effect.

You can get Sigil - it's a WYSISYG ePub writer. You can either write in the word processor window, or in the raw XHTML. I've not used it to build ePubs from scratch but I have used it to edit and clean them up and it's reasonably nice once you get used to its quirks.

Calibre's OK, but I'd stick to the command-line tools, if I were you. I find the GUI distracting and not really quite suited for the purpose I put it to, whereas the command-line tools are there to edit metadata (though you might want to edit the results by hand to avoid Calibre leaving its fingerprints everywhere) and convert from a multitude of input formats to a multitude of outputs. ePub -> Mobi/AZW is particularly clean since ultimately so far as I know it's swapping one subset of XHTML to another subset of XHTML.

Both are worth a try. You do lose the easy sharing that you're getting with Google Docs, but you can always replace that with something like DropBox.

Both ePub and Mobipocket (which Kindle uses) are HTML based at the core already. Download your files from Google Docs as HTML, import into Sigil ( http://code.google.com/p/sigil/ ) and you'll be 90% of the way towards an e-book.

All this refers to is Amazon adding more bits of HTML to the parts Kindle supports.

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&sugexp=kjrmc&cp=50&gs_id=3&xhr=t&q=japan+radioactive+materials+released+still+leaking

Growl source

Disclaimer: I don't have hg installed here at work so I can't verify that it really is version 1.3.

Its odd how difficult it is to find . There used to be links to source on the download page, but now there are not. All of this controversy could have been avoided if the Mercurial repository had been easier to find. The actual hg repository appears to be at https://code.google.com/p/growl/ . I do have hg installed, and it appears that 1.3 is in that repository. I'm not sure how long it's been there, but if it's been there all along, the developers could have simply pointed to it to allay any fears about Growl going proprietary.

Yup, there is also a paper I wrote a while ago on delegated voting. Essentially you form a decision tree. Voters can delegate their vote to other people based on topic, with a "catch all" delegation of their local representative for anything that they don't take themselves or delegate to anyone else. It has the nice property that it can be implemented in a basically backwards compatible way - for people who don't care about politics nothing needs to change, but decisions have far more democratic legitimacy. Nobody can ever say their voice wasn't heard.

One problem is that voters are, by and large, uninformed people who cannot be trusted to make appropriate decisions. See California tax policy for a good study in the disaster that is direct democracy. We need representatives to shield our legislation from the will of the public.

This is about all I can find.

The Wyden campaign was the one that started the dirty ads. As for representing "actual human beings", well, thanks so much for the kind words. He doesn't represent me very well. Does that make me not a human in your opinion?

Don't be obtuse, he was clearly referring to natural persons vs legal persons...
or wait, is that (obfuscant) you Wehrhauser?

With direct quote + source: "there are many common features to libel claims anywhere in the country.... In general, a court action would need to also show that the libel caused you damage -- for instance, you lost your job because of the claims made about your mental health."

FROM GOOGLE ANSWERS: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=738818

That's about someone being called insane (libel in written form) online, or otherwise (slander in verbal form).

The only people that can "get away with that", legally?

They are, in fact, licensed professionally practicing psychiatric pros (PhD in the case of Doctors) who in fact administered tests for it in a professional environs to anyone proclaimed possibly insane, 1st... period.

* E.G.-> You see this in courts of law all the time for sentencing of criminals...

(Yes, the courts of law use PhD's in Psychiatric science's to do it, no questions asked, because they're in possession of certificates that state they are sane, and are qualified professionally to do so by education, training, & experience...)

This is seen especially with the criminally insane, which I am now suspecting you to honestly possibly be. I'd almost wager you've been told by psych. pros you have mental issues in your lifetime... whether you answer that truthfully or not, your reprehensible stalking & trolling of myself surely does show I am most likely correct, by your own example behaviors here.

So - Yes: It takes a PhD in Psychiatric sciences to make judgements like you did to myself (calling me insane etc.). You are no PhD in Psychiatry. You are libeling myself publicly online. Stop.

APK

P.S.=> You really should get some help, of somekind: I actually honestly believe @ this point you need it - not a "shrink" here, but you have been stalking & trolling myself here and doubtless other threads, for weeks/months now - I feel you have issues buddy - because you're not considering the consequences of your actions, primarily: BOTTOM-LINE: Libel is against the law + so is online stalking, & to myself, seeing you doing both here and I think elsewhere to myself on this site for months now? That qualifies as insanity on your part (i.e.-> In your not considering the possible consequences of your actions, especially illegal ones!)...

... apk

The screenshot is a bit misleading. It's in color, and appears to be a 7290. (I have one of these in a drawer a few feet away). The theme is non-standard and, well, looks awful. The default theme looks much better.

This particular model was announced in 2004. While I'm not sure when it was released exactly, I know was out by January 2005. This model also still used the jog-wheel -- by the time the iPhone came out the trackball / trackpad was pretty much standard.

All this is beside the point, of course, as the UI doesn't look anything like a BBS -- not even the odd-ball BBS's that used RIPTerm. (Why a 2005 BB anyway? The iPhone didn't come out until 2007, and we had several new BB designs by then.)

In terms of UI and ease-of-use, Blackberry's have generally been well-received, even long after the iPhone launch. the Curve 8500, for example, received overwhelmingly favorable reviews.

Complaints about the UI are a fairly recent phenomenon and typically focus on things like the browser, which RIM has significantly improved. The Torch 9800 browser, for example, performs better than the iPhone 3GS browser (and handles HTML 5 better than the iPhone 4 browser).

Other UI features, like notifications, have historically been superior on BB. It's messaging systems have also been ahead of the curve -- offering features like a unified inbox long before other platforms.

In short, there is no reason to claim that the UI is antiquated. A quick look at QNX on the playbook shows a modern, multi-tasking friendly UI that other tablet OS's (with the possible exception of WebOS) simply don't match. As multi-tasking becomes more important, it will become clear how much further along RIM's new OS and UI really is.

While it's true that RIM has lost marketshare in the US, it is doing incredibly well globally, and has been gaining new users at an incredible rate. (iirc, their user-base has increase 40% this year).

But there is one area where iPhone is far ahead of Android. I hope Apple patented this method of planned obsolescence.

Really? How stupid can a query be
Android being an OS can hardly get a cracked screen.
How about trying "ios cracked screen" vs. "android cracked screen" and lets be totally surprised about the result

The Wyden campaign was the one that started the dirty ads. As for representing "actual human beings", well, thanks so much for the kind words. He doesn't represent me very well. Does that make me not a human in your opinion?

He is great for the liberals that make up the two major cities in Oregon. He grabs onto a lot of hot-button issues but then never delivers. He's got the union backing, but apparently we should believe that they wouldn't listen to him regarding running this campaign ad. Plausible deniablility?

Of course, your opinion of him may differ, and that's why the US is so nice.

For Chrome users there is an extension that adds a 'Share to Google+' button at the bottom of each post in Reader.

In fact budget cuts are a very potent motivator for public sector bodies to get more productivity out of the same resources, and that shows.

You didn't look up baseline spending. The DMV doesn't get budget cuts. During this economic downturn everyone is tighting their belts, except the government which has spent 33% more than it did just a decade ago.

I'll figure out the lose vs. loose and you figure out economics 101. If you can't figure out why the public sector bodies improve I think you have a little more analysis to do. I'll help you out here: the only reason the DMV improved is because of legislative action, not a sudden interest in customer service. There were angry voters at the gates with torches and legislators put their nose to the grindstone. Not the DMV. And so what if DMV has improved their service - it still sucks when compared to a private company. The whole "service" the DMV provides is nothing but a cash cow for state government, a non-service, so their goal is to take your money and give you a card, pretty simple, and for this it takes 20 minutes of waiting in line because they didn't have enough wits to open more windows. Or maybe the problem is that they can't afford to hire anymore civil servants because they get paid at a base rate almost 2x what their private sector counterparts get paid, once again proving that the government is inefficient and couldn't care less where your money goes.

The more you analyze this the more obvious it will become to you that the government can't be as efficient as a private company because they are the government. Do you think a private company needs permission from the shareholders to fire a worthless employee? (no) Have you ever heard of how difficult it is to fire a tenured teacher at a public school? School systems usually just put bad teachers on permanent paid leave of absence rather than try to fire them - some even just let them continue to teach. Does that sound like good customer service? I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

They understand the problem. They're just flailing for a killer-app draw for Google+.

The story of Google+'s steps to draw people in:
After critical-mass growth was limited from special-invites, they had to start giving it out in order to keep adoption rates up. After that effect died out and Facebook UI restructured to show how shallow and broken the Circles concept is, Google had to open it up to everybody. This is just the next step.

Of course, social-media coming from these robotic, patronizing hubris, geeks is somewhat ironic because they STILL don't really understand what social information networks are. Nyms are actually very unique identifiers, and usually picked by the user to reflect the core personality/"avatar" of the user. You could get into a whole psychological PhD about it. Do we play DnD with real-names? Denying it is denying the social in networking: I cite Mixi, Twitter, D&D, pilots, and history.

Gogole also has no skin in the game. https://plus.google.com/112678702228711889851/posts/eVeouesvaVX

Yup, there is also a paper I wrote a while ago on delegated voting. Essentially you form a decision tree. Voters can delegate their vote to other people based on topic, with a "catch all" delegation of their local representative for anything that they don't take themselves or delegate to anyone else. It has the nice property that it can be implemented in a basically backwards compatible way - for people who don't care about politics nothing needs to change, but decisions have far more democratic legitimacy. Nobody can ever say their voice wasn't heard.

Of course, he didn't specify which ideas had been stolen, but I struggle to think of anything that the iPhone does which isn't just using a Mac/Windows boiled down to a phone-sized device. I'm sure someone will point one out to me.

It's not going to be one thing. When you create a band called the Beatles and start playing songs from Revolver, it's not like they'll come after you because they have a copyright on the letter B and the idea of playing in 4/4 time.

Look at high-end phones pre-iPhone. Then look at them now.

There were pre-cursors to the iPhone with hardware/software that looked sort of kind of like an iPhone, but not really, and they weren't too popular. There are high-end phones now that don't look like an iPhone, but most of THEM aren't too popular. Basically, the world of phones went from a bunch of different-looking things to a bunch of iPhone clones, basically overnight. Android is the OS portion of the iPhone cloning. Sure there are things that are different, but a lot of the look/feel is obviously patterned on the iPhone.

These things always seem obvious in hindsight, but they're not how things looked before, and they're not the only way to do them. Palm OS looked different before, and the new Windows Mobile looks and acts totally different now.

If you can't see that a Samsung Galaxy S2 running Android is basically a cover band for the iPhones that came before it, then you're either blind physically or psychologically.

Clones aren't necessarily a bad thing, but I do wish there was more variety in the competition other than just slavish copying. The best the Android phones can offer as differentiation are relatively minor differences. It's a sad day when *Microsoft* is the only company capable of doing its own thing instead of just bowing to Cupertino.

Of course, he didn't specify which ideas had been stolen, but I struggle to think of anything that the iPhone does which isn't just using a Mac/Windows boiled down to a phone-sized device. I'm sure someone will point one out to me.

It's not going to be one thing. When you create a band called the Beatles and start playing songs from Revolver, it's not like they'll come after you because they have a copyright on the letter B and the idea of playing in 4/4 time.

Look at high-end phones pre-iPhone. Then look at them now.

There were pre-cursors to the iPhone with hardware/software that looked sort of kind of like an iPhone, but not really, and they weren't too popular. There are high-end phones now that don't look like an iPhone, but most of THEM aren't too popular. Basically, the world of phones went from a bunch of different-looking things to a bunch of iPhone clones, basically overnight. Android is the OS portion of the iPhone cloning. Sure there are things that are different, but a lot of the look/feel is obviously patterned on the iPhone.

These things always seem obvious in hindsight, but they're not how things looked before, and they're not the only way to do them. Palm OS looked different before, and the new Windows Mobile looks and acts totally different now.

If you can't see that a Samsung Galaxy S2 running Android is basically a cover band for the iPhones that came before it, then you're either blind physically or psychologically.

Clones aren't necessarily a bad thing, but I do wish there was more variety in the competition other than just slavish copying. The best the Android phones can offer as differentiation are relatively minor differences. It's a sad day when *Microsoft* is the only company capable of doing its own thing instead of just bowing to Cupertino.

Of course, he didn't specify which ideas had been stolen, but I struggle to think of anything that the iPhone does which isn't just using a Mac/Windows boiled down to a phone-sized device. I'm sure someone will point one out to me.

It's not going to be one thing. When you create a band called the Beatles and start playing songs from Revolver, it's not like they'll come after you because they have a copyright on the letter B and the idea of playing in 4/4 time.

Look at high-end phones pre-iPhone. Then look at them now.

There were pre-cursors to the iPhone with hardware/software that looked sort of kind of like an iPhone, but not really, and they weren't too popular. There are high-end phones now that don't look like an iPhone, but most of THEM aren't too popular. Basically, the world of phones went from a bunch of different-looking things to a bunch of iPhone clones, basically overnight. Android is the OS portion of the iPhone cloning. Sure there are things that are different, but a lot of the look/feel is obviously patterned on the iPhone.

These things always seem obvious in hindsight, but they're not how things looked before, and they're not the only way to do them. Palm OS looked different before, and the new Windows Mobile looks and acts totally different now.

If you can't see that a Samsung Galaxy S2 running Android is basically a cover band for the iPhones that came before it, then you're either blind physically or psychologically.

Clones aren't necessarily a bad thing, but I do wish there was more variety in the competition other than just slavish copying. The best the Android phones can offer as differentiation are relatively minor differences. It's a sad day when *Microsoft* is the only company capable of doing its own thing instead of just bowing to Cupertino.

Of course, he didn't specify which ideas had been stolen, but I struggle to think of anything that the iPhone does which isn't just using a Mac/Windows boiled down to a phone-sized device. I'm sure someone will point one out to me.

It's not going to be one thing. When you create a band called the Beatles and start playing songs from Revolver, it's not like they'll come after you because they have a copyright on the letter B and the idea of playing in 4/4 time.

Look at high-end phones pre-iPhone. Then look at them now.

There were pre-cursors to the iPhone with hardware/software that looked sort of kind of like an iPhone, but not really, and they weren't too popular. There are high-end phones now that don't look like an iPhone, but most of THEM aren't too popular. Basically, the world of phones went from a bunch of different-looking things to a bunch of iPhone clones, basically overnight. Android is the OS portion of the iPhone cloning. Sure there are things that are different, but a lot of the look/feel is obviously patterned on the iPhone.

These things always seem obvious in hindsight, but they're not how things looked before, and they're not the only way to do them. Palm OS looked different before, and the new Windows Mobile looks and acts totally different now.

If you can't see that a Samsung Galaxy S2 running Android is basically a cover band for the iPhones that came before it, then you're either blind physically or psychologically.

Clones aren't necessarily a bad thing, but I do wish there was more variety in the competition other than just slavish copying. The best the Android phones can offer as differentiation are relatively minor differences. It's a sad day when *Microsoft* is the only company capable of doing its own thing instead of just bowing to Cupertino.

Of course, he didn't specify which ideas had been stolen, but I struggle to think of anything that the iPhone does which isn't just using a Mac/Windows boiled down to a phone-sized device. I'm sure someone will point one out to me.

It's not going to be one thing. When you create a band called the Beatles and start playing songs from Revolver, it's not like they'll come after you because they have a copyright on the letter B and the idea of playing in 4/4 time.

Look at high-end phones pre-iPhone. Then look at them now.

There were pre-cursors to the iPhone with hardware/software that looked sort of kind of like an iPhone, but not really, and they weren't too popular. There are high-end phones now that don't look like an iPhone, but most of THEM aren't too popular. Basically, the world of phones went from a bunch of different-looking things to a bunch of iPhone clones, basically overnight. Android is the OS portion of the iPhone cloning. Sure there are things that are different, but a lot of the look/feel is obviously patterned on the iPhone.

These things always seem obvious in hindsight, but they're not how things looked before, and they're not the only way to do them. Palm OS looked different before, and the new Windows Mobile looks and acts totally different now.

If you can't see that a Samsung Galaxy S2 running Android is basically a cover band for the iPhones that came before it, then you're either blind physically or psychologically.

Clones aren't necessarily a bad thing, but I do wish there was more variety in the competition other than just slavish copying. The best the Android phones can offer as differentiation are relatively minor differences. It's a sad day when *Microsoft* is the only company capable of doing its own thing instead of just bowing to Cupertino.

Of course, he didn't specify which ideas had been stolen, but I struggle to think of anything that the iPhone does which isn't just using a Mac/Windows boiled down to a phone-sized device. I'm sure someone will point one out to me.

It's not going to be one thing. When you create a band called the Beatles and start playing songs from Revolver, it's not like they'll come after you because they have a copyright on the letter B and the idea of playing in 4/4 time.

Look at high-end phones pre-iPhone. Then look at them now.

There were pre-cursors to the iPhone with hardware/software that looked sort of kind of like an iPhone, but not really, and they weren't too popular. There are high-end phones now that don't look like an iPhone, but most of THEM aren't too popular. Basically, the world of phones went from a bunch of different-looking things to a bunch of iPhone clones, basically overnight. Android is the OS portion of the iPhone cloning. Sure there are things that are different, but a lot of the look/feel is obviously patterned on the iPhone.

These things always seem obvious in hindsight, but they're not how things looked before, and they're not the only way to do them. Palm OS looked different before, and the new Windows Mobile looks and acts totally different now.

If you can't see that a Samsung Galaxy S2 running Android is basically a cover band for the iPhones that came before it, then you're either blind physically or psychologically.

Clones aren't necessarily a bad thing, but I do wish there was more variety in the competition other than just slavish copying. The best the Android phones can offer as differentiation are relatively minor differences. It's a sad day when *Microsoft* is the only company capable of doing its own thing instead of just bowing to Cupertino.

Nah, the pavers don't even keep their global domination plans all that secret.

Bit of an unfair comparison, this would be the equivilant