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Re:where is OS 10.6?
Considering that the source for their data, hitslink, doesn't even have OS 10.6 up on their survey yet, I'd say the interpretation that Windows 7 is the one eating Vista's market share is unfounded, it's much more likely that it's a combination of losses to apple and win7.
I guess you didn't check the lefthand column for any of Hitslink's other reports, did you?
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Re:where is OS 10.6?
Considering that the source for their data, hitslink, doesn't even have OS 10.6 up on their survey yet, I'd say the interpretation that Windows 7 is the one eating Vista's market share is unfounded, it's much more likely that it's a combination of losses to apple and win7.
I guess you didn't check the lefthand column for any of Hitslink's other reports, did you?
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Re:Amazing
Not according to the data the article is based on. The latest version of Windows - which isn't even available to the general public until the 22nd October - has a 50% greater marketshare than Linux.
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Re:XP still going strong
What will be most interesting is whether people will be willing to make the jump from XP to Win7. XP has held pretty steady since November last year at ~70% market share. Vista never even got to 20%.
Though, it should be noted that Hitslink changed their methodology mid-year. Rather than reporting based on their raw results, which are North American-centric, they are weighting their country-by-country results to try to reflect the international picture. The last results in May, under the old system, had Vista at 24.35% and XP at 61.54%. However, Vista's increase had already slowed to a crawl, under half a percent for four straight months.
Hitslink's new numbers reflect Vista's weakness in Asia (XP being both easier and more desirable to pirate), which is underrepresented in the traffic they measure. The changeover also led to an increase in IE 6's (and, to a lesser extent, IE overall) share.
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Re:XP still going strong
What will be most interesting is whether people will be willing to make the jump from XP to Win7. XP has held pretty steady since November last year at ~70% market share. Vista never even got to 20%.
Though, it should be noted that Hitslink changed their methodology mid-year. Rather than reporting based on their raw results, which are North American-centric, they are weighting their country-by-country results to try to reflect the international picture. The last results in May, under the old system, had Vista at 24.35% and XP at 61.54%. However, Vista's increase had already slowed to a crawl, under half a percent for four straight months.
Hitslink's new numbers reflect Vista's weakness in Asia (XP being both easier and more desirable to pirate), which is underrepresented in the traffic they measure. The changeover also led to an increase in IE 6's (and, to a lesser extent, IE overall) share.
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where is OS 10.6?Another thing to point out is What the article states way down the page:
Mac OS X climbed nearly the same amount that Windows fell -- 0.25 percentage points -- to finish above 5% for the first time under Net Applications revised its methodology.
So, XP fell 0.2%, win7 rose 0.3%, but OS X rose 0.25%. Considering that the source for their data, hitslink, doesn't even have OS 10.6 up on their survey yet, I'd say the interpretation that Windows 7 is the one eating Vista's market share is unfounded, it's much more likely that it's a combination of losses to apple and win7.
Moreover, if you look at other stats like statcounter, the monthly data shows no decrease in Windows Vista adoption rate (i.e., still increasing usage share), but still shows OS X increasing its market share.
Basically, there's just as much evidence that it's snow leopard that's eating Vista's lunch as it is win7. Win7 installs could easily be coming from people who skipped vista. -
Browser stats were more interesting
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=1
IE: -1,26%
FF: +0.77%
Safari: +0.17%
Chrome: +0.33%
Opera: +0.15%Everybody's taking a piece of Microsoft. The version graph is pretty interesting too:
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=3
While IE is switching from versions 6/7/8 at a glacial pace, Firefox users are upgrading rapidly. Since May with 20.03% vs 0.44% for FF 3.0 vs FF 3.5, it's now 9.62% vs 12.65%. That means you can much more rapidly rely on Firefox being a recent version and not dealing with supporting ancient versions.
Why do I care about that? Because browser stats drives most the ways I have to interact with the world. Linux has 1% or whatever, but what matters is how well it works together wtih the other 99%. Therefore, death to IE
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Browser stats were more interesting
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=1
IE: -1,26%
FF: +0.77%
Safari: +0.17%
Chrome: +0.33%
Opera: +0.15%Everybody's taking a piece of Microsoft. The version graph is pretty interesting too:
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=3
While IE is switching from versions 6/7/8 at a glacial pace, Firefox users are upgrading rapidly. Since May with 20.03% vs 0.44% for FF 3.0 vs FF 3.5, it's now 9.62% vs 12.65%. That means you can much more rapidly rely on Firefox being a recent version and not dealing with supporting ancient versions.
Why do I care about that? Because browser stats drives most the ways I have to interact with the world. Linux has 1% or whatever, but what matters is how well it works together wtih the other 99%. Therefore, death to IE
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XP still going strong
What will be most interesting is whether people will be willing to make the jump from XP to Win7. XP has held pretty steady since November last year at ~70% market share. Vista never even got to 20%.
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XP still going strong
What will be most interesting is whether people will be willing to make the jump from XP to Win7. XP has held pretty steady since November last year at ~70% market share. Vista never even got to 20%.
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Re:Google dodged the point
The thing is, that it in fact does _not_ break intranet sites (You have to opt-in for using it) and most people are still on XP:
(71.79% according to hitslink.)
Sanboxing features on IE require integrity levels that are present from Vista on (not present in XP). So google makes quite a valid point. Also the surface of attack is also raised with silverlight and flash plugins (or any plugins for that matter), I don't see Microsoft communicating this fact enough.
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Re:What does it support?
It's true that Windows has been losing ground, but it's OSX that has been gaining, they are up to almost 10% share last time I looked, just a few years ago they were at less than 5%, so that's pretty darn good.
Not sure where the 10% is coming from, but your supposed 5% stat from a few years ago seems to be more accurate for today's market share.
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Re:Yeah, right
How does this rate insightful, when the fellow knows nothing about his topic?
The Win 7 RC stands up very well against Linux in the most frequently quoted stats: Operating System Market Share, OS Platform Statistics
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Re:IE Vs Opera...
I did some research on market penetration for browsers http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0
hitslink.com is extremely inaccurate, it gathers statistics from sites like Roche, Forbes, Vodafone US, Nokia US, CNN, Alexa, New York Times etc.
If you don't see a problem with this, these are mostly websites that are really only visited by US people. For it to be a accurate international representation, it would need to have some popular sites from every country. Such as in Poland it's o2.pl, wp.pl, kuszotv.pl etc.
For one thing, I used to manage a extremely heavily used website in Poland, and the OS X statistics were far smaller (in fact, it was so small, it was displayed at 0%). While Linux was reaching something around 16-18% in statistics. These are really significant differences which is why I don't think that site is even close to being accurate if it doesn't have some popular sites which are generally only popular to certain countries.
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IE Vs Opera...
I've been using IE since forever, as have most people. And like those same people, I've had to tolerate session-ending bugs and glitches that get fixed in one version, only to reappear in another. I did some research on market penetration for browsers http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0 and IE commands nearly 67%, Firefox is nearly at 23%, Safari is at 4%, Chrome is at 2.8% and Opera is just a hair over 2%. I've been using Opera 10 since it was released a few days ago and the one thing that stands out is that showstopping bugs and glitches occur more often in Opera than in IE. My browser preferences are simple in that I'm not fixated on the toolbar appearance, tabs or addressbar search options, or page layout. It's one simple feature - how long I can continue to use it before it shuts down due to an unrecoverable error. I've got to say that I like Opera, I want to love them the product is solid and clean but when Opera10 starts to slowdown and fail to open a page, IE always comes through. There's a reason why they are at 66% with at least 20 free mainstream browsers on the market to choose from. A large part of that market penetration came from and is still commanded because IE is proven. It's not especially fancy or prettied up with features that a lot of the newer generation browsers flaunt, but 66% is still nothing to laugh at.
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Suck on that neckbeards!
Hey neckbeards how does it feel knowing that your shitty Loonix OS has less market share after 18 years than Win7 has and it's not even released for retail sale yet!
Win7 - 1.18%
Loonix - .94%
Win2k - .93%
Even more sad is that Loonix can barely beat Win2k in market share and it's 9 years old at this point and obsolete! -
Suck on that neckbeards!
Hey neckbeards how does it feel knowing that your shitty Loonix OS has less market share after 18 years than Win7 has and it's not even released for retail sale yet!
Win7 - 1.18%
Loonix - .94%
Win2k - .93%
Even more sad is that Loonix can barely beat Win2k in market share and it's 9 years old at this point and obsolete! -
Re:70% drivers!
Your complaints about driver stabilization over time are valid IMHO. I think it would be smart if they agreed to not change the ABI for say 2 years at a time. Or rather, keep the legacy interface around for that long.
Linux has "something like 10% market share" if you include servers. Yet even support there is seemingly marginal from the vendors.
As far as market share is concerned. I'ld like to see a source. Everywhere I read puts linux ~2%.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9910263-16.html
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The Net Applications Stats For August
The Net Applications stats for August:
XP 71.8%
Vista 18.8%
OSX 10.5 3.5%
Win 7 1.2%
OSX 10.4 1%
Linux 0.9%
W2K 0.9%These global stats are built from about 160 million hits per month to its clients' websites:
Additional estimates about the website population:
76% participate in pay per click programs to drive traffic to their sites.
43% are commerce sites
18% are corporate sites
10% are content sites
29% classify themselves as other (includes gov, org, search engine marketers etc..) About Our Market Share StatisticsLinux fares somewhat better in the W3Schools OS Platform Statistics. But the trend line is as flat as the Kansas prairie.
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The Net Applications Stats For August
The Net Applications stats for August:
XP 71.8%
Vista 18.8%
OSX 10.5 3.5%
Win 7 1.2%
OSX 10.4 1%
Linux 0.9%
W2K 0.9%These global stats are built from about 160 million hits per month to its clients' websites:
Additional estimates about the website population:
76% participate in pay per click programs to drive traffic to their sites.
43% are commerce sites
18% are corporate sites
10% are content sites
29% classify themselves as other (includes gov, org, search engine marketers etc..) About Our Market Share StatisticsLinux fares somewhat better in the W3Schools OS Platform Statistics. But the trend line is as flat as the Kansas prairie.
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Opera 10 Market Share...
The link below provides a great snapshot of the current browser market share, with country-level weighting. In a nutshell, good luck to Firefox in the 43.99% climb to match IE's 66.97 marketshare. Trailing a distant 3rd place is Safari at a meager 4%, followed by Chrome in 4th place at 2.84% and Opera in 5th place at 2.04%. It's clear to me that the real battlefield is in the 2-4% range. According to this source, Opera has doubled their marketshare with help from users from eastern Europe and Asia. An interesting footnote is Netscape in 6th place at
.49% and Opera's own Mini in 7th place at .31%. There's no mention in this rollcall of 20 browsers of Opera Mobile, which costs US$24.99 while the bulk of the other browsers are free. REF: http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0 -
And the irony is...
... according to NetApplications, the most popular browser version (IE 6) wasn't considered for the test.
How about that thar ActiveX blocker, eh?
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Re:Sign me up...
You know what the next step is, right? (It's not PROFIT!, but it's not far either.)
The Net Applications stats for August have Win 7 at 1.18% and Linux at 0.94%. Operating System Market Share
The developer-oriented w3Schools OS Platform Stats show Linux at 4.2% and Win 7 at 2.5%.
But Win 7 went from 0% to 2.5% in eight months. - and it got there with zero OEM system installs.
It took Linux six damn years to claw its way up from 2% to 4%.
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Cleared to launch
Win 7 has had broad exposure and is pretty well understood. There is a substantial base of experienced users:
The Net Applications stats for August show Win 7 with a 1.18% share. Linux at 0.94%. Windows 7 Breaks 1% Share
There is no reason why a carefully targeted presention shouldn't succeed - and that is all a Tupperware Party really is, when you get down to it.
For the true meaning of pathetic - consider this video of the Boston Commons' launch of the Win 7 Sins campaign:
Free Software Foundation - Windows 7 Sins
189 views.
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Windows 7 Breaks 1% ShareSome interesting new stats from Net Applications:
XP 71.79%
Vista 18.8%
OSX 10.5 3.45%
Win 7 1.18%
OSX 10.4 0.99%
Linux 0.94%
W2K 0.92%
iPhone 0.33%Operating System Market Share [August]
Browser Version Market Share [August]
IE 6 25%
IE 7 21%
IE 8 15%
FFX 3 12%
FFX 3.5 9%
Safari 2.6%
Chrome 2.0 2.5%
IE 8 Compatability Mode 2.5 %
Opera 9.x 1.8%Search Engine Market Share [August]
Google 76%
Yahoo 12%
Bing 8% [Up about 1% since July]
AOL 2%IE doesn't seem to be in any immediate danger. That can't be said for the "alternative browsers."
If I were the Moz Foundation, I would be out looking for other sources of revenue. Just to be on the safe side.
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Windows 7 Breaks 1% ShareSome interesting new stats from Net Applications:
XP 71.79%
Vista 18.8%
OSX 10.5 3.45%
Win 7 1.18%
OSX 10.4 0.99%
Linux 0.94%
W2K 0.92%
iPhone 0.33%Operating System Market Share [August]
Browser Version Market Share [August]
IE 6 25%
IE 7 21%
IE 8 15%
FFX 3 12%
FFX 3.5 9%
Safari 2.6%
Chrome 2.0 2.5%
IE 8 Compatability Mode 2.5 %
Opera 9.x 1.8%Search Engine Market Share [August]
Google 76%
Yahoo 12%
Bing 8% [Up about 1% since July]
AOL 2%IE doesn't seem to be in any immediate danger. That can't be said for the "alternative browsers."
If I were the Moz Foundation, I would be out looking for other sources of revenue. Just to be on the safe side.
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Windows 7 Breaks 1% ShareSome interesting new stats from Net Applications:
XP 71.79%
Vista 18.8%
OSX 10.5 3.45%
Win 7 1.18%
OSX 10.4 0.99%
Linux 0.94%
W2K 0.92%
iPhone 0.33%Operating System Market Share [August]
Browser Version Market Share [August]
IE 6 25%
IE 7 21%
IE 8 15%
FFX 3 12%
FFX 3.5 9%
Safari 2.6%
Chrome 2.0 2.5%
IE 8 Compatability Mode 2.5 %
Opera 9.x 1.8%Search Engine Market Share [August]
Google 76%
Yahoo 12%
Bing 8% [Up about 1% since July]
AOL 2%IE doesn't seem to be in any immediate danger. That can't be said for the "alternative browsers."
If I were the Moz Foundation, I would be out looking for other sources of revenue. Just to be on the safe side.
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Windows 7 Breaks 1% ShareSome interesting new stats from Net Applications:
XP 71.79%
Vista 18.8%
OSX 10.5 3.45%
Win 7 1.18%
OSX 10.4 0.99%
Linux 0.94%
W2K 0.92%
iPhone 0.33%Operating System Market Share [August]
Browser Version Market Share [August]
IE 6 25%
IE 7 21%
IE 8 15%
FFX 3 12%
FFX 3.5 9%
Safari 2.6%
Chrome 2.0 2.5%
IE 8 Compatability Mode 2.5 %
Opera 9.x 1.8%Search Engine Market Share [August]
Google 76%
Yahoo 12%
Bing 8% [Up about 1% since July]
AOL 2%IE doesn't seem to be in any immediate danger. That can't be said for the "alternative browsers."
If I were the Moz Foundation, I would be out looking for other sources of revenue. Just to be on the safe side.
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Re:don't forget sloth
Thanks Microsoft.. I hope Win7 is as successful as Vista.
That would be roughly 20% of the market. Four times that of OSX. Twenty times that of Linux. Operating System Market Share
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Re:Incompatibility Problems
Nice graph however this one with versions is better. IE6 is what? over 5 years old? If you want to code for that be my guest. Knock yourself out, however my company will be spending time improving our products rather then constantly trying hack an old program to display pages correctly. We'll see who stays in business and who wastes time on 27% of the overall market who may not even bother visiting your site in the first place.
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Re:Incompatibility Problems
90%? What? That's a bit odd. Really, it's 70% and dropping like a rock.
I see no significant change in market share for IE or Firefox in the better part of a year. Top Browser Share Trend.
The take-up of IE8 has been faster than Firefox 3.5. Top Browser Share Trend.
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Re:Incompatibility Problems
90%? What? That's a bit odd. Really, it's 70% and dropping like a rock.
I see no significant change in market share for IE or Firefox in the better part of a year. Top Browser Share Trend.
The take-up of IE8 has been faster than Firefox 3.5. Top Browser Share Trend.
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Re:Theora
And staying with that kind of thought process, one wonders why anybody bothered with Linux development from the mid 90's.
Net Applications tracks any device with a measurable global presence on the web. The numbers for Linux are - to put it charitably - not particularly impressive.
I don't think Ogg Theora - advancing at the same glacial pace - has fifteen years to become a contender.
Top Operating System Share Trend, Operating System Market Share
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Re:Theora
And staying with that kind of thought process, one wonders why anybody bothered with Linux development from the mid 90's.
Net Applications tracks any device with a measurable global presence on the web. The numbers for Linux are - to put it charitably - not particularly impressive.
I don't think Ogg Theora - advancing at the same glacial pace - has fifteen years to become a contender.
Top Operating System Share Trend, Operating System Market Share
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Re:Incompatibility Problems
It would be easier for them to just add SVG support.
Can we get rid of IE already, please? Just stop caring about it, and use open standards. If they won't adapt, tough luck.
I care about Internet Explorer because even though I do want to code to standards, I don't want to alienate over 60% of my audience.
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Re:Vista did "transform life"......For Microsoft.
Perhaps not:
The newly weighted Net Applications stats are telling:
Top Operating System Share Trend, Top Operating System Share Trend
Roughly speaking, the global desktop is 70% XP, 20% Vista, 5% OSX, 1% Win 7, 1% Linux and 3% Everything Else.
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Re:Vista did "transform life"......For Microsoft.
Perhaps not:
The newly weighted Net Applications stats are telling:
Top Operating System Share Trend, Top Operating System Share Trend
Roughly speaking, the global desktop is 70% XP, 20% Vista, 5% OSX, 1% Win 7, 1% Linux and 3% Everything Else.
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Re:GPL Fanatics
Will I?
market share for last month from about as good a source as we can manage and yes, weighted by country's population.
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Slow down, cowboy
This is what one of Microsoft's Open Source competitors had to say about SharePoint:
Microsoft has found a way to create ties between SharePoint and its more traditional products like Office and Exchange. Companies can tweak Office documents through SharePoint and receive information like whether a worker is online or not through tools in Exchange. These links have Microsoft carrying along its old-line software as it builds a more Internet-focused software line.
"SharePoint is saving Microsoft's Office business even as it paves the way for a new era of Microsoft lock-in," said Matt Asay, an executive at Alfresco, which makes an open-source content management system. "It is simultaneously the most interesting and dangerous Microsoft technology, and has largely caught its competitors napping."
Microsoft has managed to undercut even the open-source companies playing in the business software market by giving away a free basic license to SharePoint if they already have Windows Server. "It's a brilliant strategy that mimics open source in its viral, free distribution, but transcends open source in its ability to lock customers into a complete, not-free-at-all Microsoft stack - one for which they'll pay more and more the deeper they get into SharePoint," Mr. Asay said. Microsoft's SharePoint Thrives in the Recession [Aug 7]SharePoint is the hottest selling server side product for Microsoft ever.
In its next iteration, SharePoint will have "stronger ties to the corporate search technology Microsoft acquired in the $1.2 billion purchase of Fast Search and Transfer. Best Buy uses the Fast technology today to provide on-the-fly pricing information to customers performing product searches on its Web site."
The Net Applications global market stats for July are out. The weakness of Linux and FOSS in these stats is startling - and if you were looking for evidence of a real "death spiral," this would be a good place to begin.
Operating System Market Share [Rounded]
XP 73%
Vista 18%
OSX 10.5 3%
Linux 1%
OSX 10.4 1%
W2K 1%
Win 7 1%IE 6 27%
IE 7 23%
FFOX 3 16%
IE 8 12%
FFOX 3.5 5%
Chrome 2%
Safari 2% -
Slow down, cowboy
This is what one of Microsoft's Open Source competitors had to say about SharePoint:
Microsoft has found a way to create ties between SharePoint and its more traditional products like Office and Exchange. Companies can tweak Office documents through SharePoint and receive information like whether a worker is online or not through tools in Exchange. These links have Microsoft carrying along its old-line software as it builds a more Internet-focused software line.
"SharePoint is saving Microsoft's Office business even as it paves the way for a new era of Microsoft lock-in," said Matt Asay, an executive at Alfresco, which makes an open-source content management system. "It is simultaneously the most interesting and dangerous Microsoft technology, and has largely caught its competitors napping."
Microsoft has managed to undercut even the open-source companies playing in the business software market by giving away a free basic license to SharePoint if they already have Windows Server. "It's a brilliant strategy that mimics open source in its viral, free distribution, but transcends open source in its ability to lock customers into a complete, not-free-at-all Microsoft stack - one for which they'll pay more and more the deeper they get into SharePoint," Mr. Asay said. Microsoft's SharePoint Thrives in the Recession [Aug 7]SharePoint is the hottest selling server side product for Microsoft ever.
In its next iteration, SharePoint will have "stronger ties to the corporate search technology Microsoft acquired in the $1.2 billion purchase of Fast Search and Transfer. Best Buy uses the Fast technology today to provide on-the-fly pricing information to customers performing product searches on its Web site."
The Net Applications global market stats for July are out. The weakness of Linux and FOSS in these stats is startling - and if you were looking for evidence of a real "death spiral," this would be a good place to begin.
Operating System Market Share [Rounded]
XP 73%
Vista 18%
OSX 10.5 3%
Linux 1%
OSX 10.4 1%
W2K 1%
Win 7 1%IE 6 27%
IE 7 23%
FFOX 3 16%
IE 8 12%
FFOX 3.5 5%
Chrome 2%
Safari 2% -
Slow down, cowboy
This is what one of Microsoft's Open Source competitors had to say about SharePoint:
Microsoft has found a way to create ties between SharePoint and its more traditional products like Office and Exchange. Companies can tweak Office documents through SharePoint and receive information like whether a worker is online or not through tools in Exchange. These links have Microsoft carrying along its old-line software as it builds a more Internet-focused software line.
"SharePoint is saving Microsoft's Office business even as it paves the way for a new era of Microsoft lock-in," said Matt Asay, an executive at Alfresco, which makes an open-source content management system. "It is simultaneously the most interesting and dangerous Microsoft technology, and has largely caught its competitors napping."
Microsoft has managed to undercut even the open-source companies playing in the business software market by giving away a free basic license to SharePoint if they already have Windows Server. "It's a brilliant strategy that mimics open source in its viral, free distribution, but transcends open source in its ability to lock customers into a complete, not-free-at-all Microsoft stack - one for which they'll pay more and more the deeper they get into SharePoint," Mr. Asay said. Microsoft's SharePoint Thrives in the Recession [Aug 7]SharePoint is the hottest selling server side product for Microsoft ever.
In its next iteration, SharePoint will have "stronger ties to the corporate search technology Microsoft acquired in the $1.2 billion purchase of Fast Search and Transfer. Best Buy uses the Fast technology today to provide on-the-fly pricing information to customers performing product searches on its Web site."
The Net Applications global market stats for July are out. The weakness of Linux and FOSS in these stats is startling - and if you were looking for evidence of a real "death spiral," this would be a good place to begin.
Operating System Market Share [Rounded]
XP 73%
Vista 18%
OSX 10.5 3%
Linux 1%
OSX 10.4 1%
W2K 1%
Win 7 1%IE 6 27%
IE 7 23%
FFOX 3 16%
IE 8 12%
FFOX 3.5 5%
Chrome 2%
Safari 2% -
Re:Does anyone actually USE IE anymore?
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Re:Does anyone actually USE IE anymore?
[MSIE] Still account for at least more than 60% of users, no matter what source of statistics you use.
That is an invalid statistic when discussing new technology web sites. It includes the 25% - 30% that are still using MSIE v6. Some of these users are
- never going to be interested in new technology web sites and will stay with MSIEv6, or
- will upgrade in the near future, and recent trends indicate a large number of those upgrading will go to non-MS browsers, or
- are already using a non-MS browser to supplement MSIEv6 (use MSIEv6 only with legacy intranet sites, etc).
Discounting these MSIEv6 users, market share is roughly
- MSIE v7+: 49%
- FF v3+: 29%
- Other: 22%
Microsoft is in a minority position wrt the market that HTML5 addresses. Its old "embrace, extend, extinguish" strategy cannot work here, especially as it is now so easy to install HTML5 compliant browsers on Windows machines.
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Re:Does anyone actually USE IE anymore?
Depends on who you want to believe.
A recent Digg poll showed that many people are incapable of escaping using Internet Explorer i.e. on closed systems or at work, so it's no surprise IE still has as lingering percentage of marketshare. -
Re:Nonissue
There's no doubt in my mind more bugs will surface with the much wider install, but if this site is correct Windows 7 is already close to 1% of the OS market, a respectable install base for an unreleased OS.
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Re:Only one problem...
30%?
From http://marketshare.hitslink.com/search-engine-market-share.aspx?qprid=5, Google has just under 80%, Baidu at 9%, Yahoo at 7 and Bing at 3.
Even in the US-only, http://www.hitwise.com/press-center/hitwiseHS2004/google-searches-apr-09.php:
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Re:What market?
For some reason Hitslink gets quoted as a source quite often. However they just retroactively adjusted all of their numbers in a way that increases Windows and IE market share.
In the past, we reported only on our raw numbers. As of August 1st, we have implemented retroactive country-level weighting in our reports.
As examples of their changes:
Original: Windows total share April 2009 88.71% Revised: 92.67%
Original: Windows total share May 2009: 87.75% Revised: 92.17
Original: Mac total share May 2009: 9.81% Revised: 4.25%
Original: Firefox total share April 2009: 22.48% Revised: 23.84%
Original: Firefox total share May 2009: 22.49% Revised: 22.75%
Original: Internet Explorer total share April 2009: 66.1% Revised: 67.77%
Original: Internet Explorer total share May 2009: 65.59% Revised: 68.1%
To me retroactively changing their data really hurts their credibility.
Note: These numbers were arrived at by totaling the numbers on http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=11 this page.
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Re:What market?
The best way to assess market share is through a survey.
And the best survey is one which doesn't let humans get involved! I'm guessing these are pretty accurate for desktop share.
Windows 93.04%
Mac 4.86%
Linux 1.05%
iPhone 0.30%
Java ME 0.29%
Symbian 0.14%
iPod Touch 0.06%
Windows Mobile 0.05%
Playstation 0.03%
Android 0.02%
BlackBerry 0.01%
FreeBSD 0.01%
SunOS 0.01%
Palm 0.01%
Server share is more difficult but likely that Linux does well in this sector. -
Re:The EU is looking out for Norway's Opera
From http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0 (which appears to measure clients hitting a link), Firefox has ~22% of the market, while Opera has ~2%.
So, browser market share can be had in the current situation, but Opera's management is ineffective and/or clueless. So, like many companies who fail in the market, they seeks rents and privilege from the politicians.
A pox on their house.
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Re:Market share
Wrong again. Firefox is nowhere near the most popular browser as anything else will tell you.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0 (the most accurate resource around, since Google won't release stats).
Microsoft Internet Explorer: 67.68%
-- Microsoft Internet Explorer 6: 27.21%
Firefox: 22.47%And that's even after they changed their system to now weight countries to prevent the numbers being skewed by one large country moving in one direction.
Delude yourself all you like, the figures are not what you want them to be - they are what they are. Demons how happy I'll be when that "IE6" figure goes down or disappears entirely.