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The Answers Were Already There!The age of the universe is now known to unprecedented accuracy: 13.73 billion years old, +/- 120 million. Spacetime is flat to within a 2% error margin. And ordinary matter and energy account for only 4.62% of the universe's total. Plait's comment on the age result: 'Some people might say it doesn't look a day over 6000 years. They're wrong.'" This was already spelled out in the bible, the answers are all there. Recall that the number of towns and villages in Joshua concatenated with the number of sons Abraham's brother had concatenated with how many days old Isaac was when he was circumcised concatenated with the number of sons Noah had concatenated with Jesus' age when he died is (by no mere coincidence) 2288333 1/3! Which proves that one year to God is like 2,288,333 and 1/3 years to humans.
Do the math, the earth really is 6,000 god years x 2288333 1/3 human yr/god yr = 13.73 billion human years old!
It all fits, the answers were already right before your eyes in the good book. Who needs a scientician or "NASA" to tell us this when we already know it?! -
The Answers Were Already There!The age of the universe is now known to unprecedented accuracy: 13.73 billion years old, +/- 120 million. Spacetime is flat to within a 2% error margin. And ordinary matter and energy account for only 4.62% of the universe's total. Plait's comment on the age result: 'Some people might say it doesn't look a day over 6000 years. They're wrong.'" This was already spelled out in the bible, the answers are all there. Recall that the number of towns and villages in Joshua concatenated with the number of sons Abraham's brother had concatenated with how many days old Isaac was when he was circumcised concatenated with the number of sons Noah had concatenated with Jesus' age when he died is (by no mere coincidence) 2288333 1/3! Which proves that one year to God is like 2,288,333 and 1/3 years to humans.
Do the math, the earth really is 6,000 god years x 2288333 1/3 human yr/god yr = 13.73 billion human years old!
It all fits, the answers were already right before your eyes in the good book. Who needs a scientician or "NASA" to tell us this when we already know it?! -
The Answers Were Already There!The age of the universe is now known to unprecedented accuracy: 13.73 billion years old, +/- 120 million. Spacetime is flat to within a 2% error margin. And ordinary matter and energy account for only 4.62% of the universe's total. Plait's comment on the age result: 'Some people might say it doesn't look a day over 6000 years. They're wrong.'" This was already spelled out in the bible, the answers are all there. Recall that the number of towns and villages in Joshua concatenated with the number of sons Abraham's brother had concatenated with how many days old Isaac was when he was circumcised concatenated with the number of sons Noah had concatenated with Jesus' age when he died is (by no mere coincidence) 2288333 1/3! Which proves that one year to God is like 2,288,333 and 1/3 years to humans.
Do the math, the earth really is 6,000 god years x 2288333 1/3 human yr/god yr = 13.73 billion human years old!
It all fits, the answers were already right before your eyes in the good book. Who needs a scientician or "NASA" to tell us this when we already know it?! -
The Answers Were Already There!The age of the universe is now known to unprecedented accuracy: 13.73 billion years old, +/- 120 million. Spacetime is flat to within a 2% error margin. And ordinary matter and energy account for only 4.62% of the universe's total. Plait's comment on the age result: 'Some people might say it doesn't look a day over 6000 years. They're wrong.'" This was already spelled out in the bible, the answers are all there. Recall that the number of towns and villages in Joshua concatenated with the number of sons Abraham's brother had concatenated with how many days old Isaac was when he was circumcised concatenated with the number of sons Noah had concatenated with Jesus' age when he died is (by no mere coincidence) 2288333 1/3! Which proves that one year to God is like 2,288,333 and 1/3 years to humans.
Do the math, the earth really is 6,000 god years x 2288333 1/3 human yr/god yr = 13.73 billion human years old!
It all fits, the answers were already right before your eyes in the good book. Who needs a scientician or "NASA" to tell us this when we already know it?! -
Re:It's not a church
Right there at the top of google.
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/kjv/browse.html
http://www.ibs.org/niv/booklist.php -
Re:Tag suggestion
1 Timothy 6:10 (NIV) - For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
The King James Version also uses "all", but you are correct in emphasizing a single root.
http://www.ibs.org/niv/passagesearch.php?passage_request=1+timothy+6%3A10&niv=yes&submit=Lookup
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%206:10;&version=9; -
Re:Expect abortion opponents to jump on this.
If you make an exception for any reason, your arguments about life before birth being so important, etc. are completely negated (i.e., your position becomes wholly inconsistent and completely indefensible). So, to deal with your arguments about life before birth being so important, etc.:
Not at all. Killing some-one is illegal in most circumstances, but there are exceptions eg: self-defence, police shooting some-one firing a gun at others etc. To think that there may be circumstances when abortion should be legal even if you usually consider it murder is both logically consistent and demonstrable in principle in current laws about other issues.
The logical conclusion of this rather flawed line of reasoning (you are calling a fetus a child, putting the horse before the cart, among other things) is that women should be forcibly inseminated solely for the purpose of making children that have a right to live.
Fetuses grow into children, horses do not grow out of carts. It is well understood (but probably no longer common) usage in english to say a pregnant woman is "with child". First definition in the Australian Pocket Oxford Dictionary:
pregnant
To say that the logical conclusion of believing people have a responsibility to look after children they produce is that they should be forced to produce more children only displays that you lack either the capacity or the desire to discuss this issue logically.
Btw, every year I celebrate the birth of Christ. I do not celebrate the divine insemination or fertilization or whatever you want to call it.
I find your religious beliefs and customs to be irrelevant to this discussion...
The birth is what matters -- it is where life begins in the Christian bible. So, I have to object to your arguments on religious grounds as well.
If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
Just in case you missed that, if the baby is born prematurely but not injured, there is only a fine, if the baby is injured or killed, the same penalty applies as for any other person being injured or killed. The passage is not dealing with the injury to the woman, as that is dealt with sufficiently in other passages, it is dealing with injury or death caused to children still in the womb, so sorry, no banana for you, AC. If you are going to use the bible as a reference in a discussion, maybe you should read it first.
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Re:Don't they know anything about SHARING?
Its more entertaining than a dry old book written in a very dated dialect
The first Book of Kings, from which the Soloman story is taken, is a pretty good read. You can go with the one of the modern translations if Elizabethan English puts you off. It begins:
1 When King David was very old, he could not keep warm even when they put covers over him. 2 So his attendants said to him, "Let us look for a young virgin to serve the king and take care of him. She can lie beside him so that our lord the king may keep warm."
3 Then they searched throughout Israel for a beautiful girl and found Abishag, a Shunammite, and brought her to the king. 4 The girl was very beautiful; she took care of the king and waited on him, but the king had no sexual relations with her.
Compare this passage to the King James Version:
[1] Now king David was old and stricken in years; and they covered him with clothes, but he gat no heat.
[2] Wherefore his servants said unto him, Let there be sought for my lord the king a young virgin: and let her stand before the king, and let her cherish him, and let her lie in thy bosom, that my lord the king may get heat.
[3] So they sought for a fair damsel throughout all the coasts of Israel, and found Abishag a Shunammite, and brought her to the king.
[4] And the damsel was very fair, and cherished the king, and ministered to him: but the king knew her not.
Either way, dry it is not.
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Re:Don't they know anything about SHARING?
Its more entertaining than a dry old book written in a very dated dialect
The first Book of Kings, from which the Soloman story is taken, is a pretty good read. You can go with the one of the modern translations if Elizabethan English puts you off. It begins:
1 When King David was very old, he could not keep warm even when they put covers over him. 2 So his attendants said to him, "Let us look for a young virgin to serve the king and take care of him. She can lie beside him so that our lord the king may keep warm."
3 Then they searched throughout Israel for a beautiful girl and found Abishag, a Shunammite, and brought her to the king. 4 The girl was very beautiful; she took care of the king and waited on him, but the king had no sexual relations with her.
Compare this passage to the King James Version:
[1] Now king David was old and stricken in years; and they covered him with clothes, but he gat no heat.
[2] Wherefore his servants said unto him, Let there be sought for my lord the king a young virgin: and let her stand before the king, and let her cherish him, and let her lie in thy bosom, that my lord the king may get heat.
[3] So they sought for a fair damsel throughout all the coasts of Israel, and found Abishag a Shunammite, and brought her to the king.
[4] And the damsel was very fair, and cherished the king, and ministered to him: but the king knew her not.
Either way, dry it is not.
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Re:This makes me glad I don't believe...
Actually, you are ignorant of the history of the Bible. The Bible has remained virtually unchanged since it's creation of what we now call the Bible. It was created sometime around 375 AD. The Bible was created using texts from the Jewish Torah, and various writings from the Apostles. The originality of the Torah is strikingly accurate, excerpts from scrolls found in tombs dating 600-700 B.C. have been found to match word for word the text used today. The dead sea scrolls are one example, again, match word for word texts used today. The Dead Sea Scrolls conatined every book of the Old Testament with exception of the book of Ester. If you look at the Old Testament as a historical text, it matches the history timeline as discovered by archeology. Many individuals and events have been found accurate and true. Therefore dispelling the fiction status applied by you.
The King James version most commonly used today is exact text as it was when written in 1611. The only difference is the apocryphal texts, used by Catholics mostly, were removed sometime after 1613.
some wedsites that may help you in your ignorance.
http://www.carm.org/bible.htm
http:// www.bible.com/answers/afacts.html
http://www.ibs.org/bibles/about/3.php
Actually if you look, evolution has changed more than the Bible, if changing text is your "Ginesberg" test for fiction, then Evolution is fiction by your very own test. The theory of evolution is by man, therefore flawed, and can never be proven law. -
Re:Your Papers Please
I guess you're right. It would be even nicer, if it were a tattooed barcode, or some kind of subdermal implant, so I couldn't accidentally lose it. It would also be nice if the other losers that refuse to get it aren't allowed to buy or sell.
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Why stop there?
<sarcasm>
Why limit this to just sex offenders? Why not all criminals? Heck...why don't we just tag everyone...after all, odds are everyone will commit a criminal act sometime in their lives, right?
I got a great idea....we'll tag everyone, giving each transmitter a unique frequency....their 'number', if you will.
Oh wait....this idea has already been proposed...
(Interesting side note...our president's number seems to be 666.
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Re:Some ideasI assume you don't mean the New International Version (NIV). The translation for this version started in 1968, and it was finished in 1978. The NIV does not have the text as you indicated, but if there is a different translation that has it this way, I would be interested (a reference would be nice).
Also, Pilate doesn't ask Jesus if he's the Messiah. The chief priests asked him that (they were interested in his theology). Pilate asked him if he was the King of the Jews (he was interested in whether he was starting a revolution).
I don't know what you mean by which churches are editing the Bible. Most denominations to not have an official translation. There are plenty to choose from. The good news is you can find one with a good balance of readability and faithfulness to the original texts. The bad news is anyone can publish a translation, even a bad one (it is perfectly feasible that someone would write a translation with the errors you noted). But you can alwas go back to the original languages or compare any of the scores of translations out there.