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Bad Lieutenant was the one I was thinking of, too. Good flick, and in my opinion, it earned it's NC-17 rating. I thought Harvey Keitel did an amazing job in it, but I like most of his movies anyway.

Kids was another NC-17 film that wasn't completely bad.

• Cube A group of people awaken in a strange environment that resembes a maze of cubes. Cost something like $200K Canadian to make and has some great acting.
• 2010 The little known sequel to 2001 about a joint American-Soviet space expedition sent to Jupiter to learn what happened to the Discovery. Directed by the same guy who did "Outland".
• Red Planet Like "Pitch Black" except that the characters think their way out of problems rather than kicking some alien whoop ass. Ok, maybe I just like Carrie-Anne Moss.

• Cube A group of people awaken in a strange environment that resembes a maze of cubes. Cost something like $200K Canadian to make and has some great acting.
• 2010 The little known sequel to 2001 about a joint American-Soviet space expedition sent to Jupiter to learn what happened to the Discovery. Directed by the same guy who did "Outland".
• Red Planet Like "Pitch Black" except that the characters think their way out of problems rather than kicking some alien whoop ass. Ok, maybe I just like Carrie-Anne Moss.

• Cube A group of people awaken in a strange environment that resembes a maze of cubes. Cost something like $200K Canadian to make and has some great acting.
• 2010 The little known sequel to 2001 about a joint American-Soviet space expedition sent to Jupiter to learn what happened to the Discovery. Directed by the same guy who did "Outland".
• Red Planet Like "Pitch Black" except that the characters think their way out of problems rather than kicking some alien whoop ass. Ok, maybe I just like Carrie-Anne Moss.

Day the Earth Caught Fire

Excellent film, done without effects but good plotting, characters and acting.

FWIW my top 10 sci-fi films in no particular order.

Day the Earth Caught Fire
Forbidden Planet
Day the Earth Stood Still
Gattaca
Blade Runner
Ghost in the Shell
Alien
Aliens
Starship Troopers
Terminator

And just missing the top 10 is Alien v Predator.

All the "Kirk" replies aside:

Watch Free Enterprise. It's mandatory viewing for any SciFi fan, and a whole lot of non-fans. (It's relevant to your post because one of the main characters has a green-girl sex fantasy.)

Everybody: if you haven't seen it, go watch Free Enterprise. Then watch it with the glossary subtitles on; $10 says you'll have missed some good references. Then watch the commentary; I'll sometimes just put the commentary on for a fun re-watch.

About Schmidt is the only film that sticks out in my mind. American Beauty was pretty good but a little shallow.

About Schmidt is the only film that sticks out in my mind. American Beauty was pretty good but a little shallow.

Oh, and it is also actually nine words...

The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension at the IMDB

Joe (aka BB special ops Poes in Doos)

1972. See the Certification list a imdb.

I would also like to add:

• The Running Man (fun factor)

I know there are dozens of other flicks that need to be up here but alas, i've never had total recall.

I would also like to add:

• The Running Man (fun factor)

I know there are dozens of other flicks that need to be up here but alas, i've never had total recall.

• The Shape of Things to Come (1936) based on the H.G. Wells novel of the same name.
  
• The Man in the White Suit (1951) speculative fiction with Sir Alec "Obi Wan" Guinness.
  
• The Fantastic Planet (1973) Psychadelic animated european sci-fi.
  
• Wizards (1977) Ralph Bakshi, 'nuff said.
  
• The Quiet Earth (1985) freaky end-of-the world stuff.
  
• Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure (1989) <simpsons voice="comic book guy">Best! Time-Travel! Movie! Ever! </simpsons>
  
• Until the End of the World (1991) with William Hurt and Sam Neill, oddly catches the essence of Gibsonian cyberpunk without the punk.
  
• Just about anything by Hayao Miyazaki but especially Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986) or Nausicaä (of the Valley of the Winds) (1984) (but not the god-awful Warriors of the Wind from 1986).

• The Shape of Things to Come (1936) based on the H.G. Wells novel of the same name.
  
• The Man in the White Suit (1951) speculative fiction with Sir Alec "Obi Wan" Guinness.
  
• The Fantastic Planet (1973) Psychadelic animated european sci-fi.
  
• Wizards (1977) Ralph Bakshi, 'nuff said.
  
• The Quiet Earth (1985) freaky end-of-the world stuff.
  
• Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure (1989) <simpsons voice="comic book guy">Best! Time-Travel! Movie! Ever! </simpsons>
  
• Until the End of the World (1991) with William Hurt and Sam Neill, oddly catches the essence of Gibsonian cyberpunk without the punk.
  
• Just about anything by Hayao Miyazaki but especially Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986) or Nausicaä (of the Valley of the Winds) (1984) (but not the god-awful Warriors of the Wind from 1986).

• The Shape of Things to Come (1936) based on the H.G. Wells novel of the same name.
  
• The Man in the White Suit (1951) speculative fiction with Sir Alec "Obi Wan" Guinness.
  
• The Fantastic Planet (1973) Psychadelic animated european sci-fi.
  
• Wizards (1977) Ralph Bakshi, 'nuff said.
  
• The Quiet Earth (1985) freaky end-of-the world stuff.
  
• Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure (1989) <simpsons voice="comic book guy">Best! Time-Travel! Movie! Ever! </simpsons>
  
• Until the End of the World (1991) with William Hurt and Sam Neill, oddly catches the essence of Gibsonian cyberpunk without the punk.
  
• Just about anything by Hayao Miyazaki but especially Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986) or Nausicaä (of the Valley of the Winds) (1984) (but not the god-awful Warriors of the Wind from 1986).

• The Shape of Things to Come (1936) based on the H.G. Wells novel of the same name.
  
• The Man in the White Suit (1951) speculative fiction with Sir Alec "Obi Wan" Guinness.
  
• The Fantastic Planet (1973) Psychadelic animated european sci-fi.
  
• Wizards (1977) Ralph Bakshi, 'nuff said.
  
• The Quiet Earth (1985) freaky end-of-the world stuff.
  
• Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure (1989) <simpsons voice="comic book guy">Best! Time-Travel! Movie! Ever! </simpsons>
  
• Until the End of the World (1991) with William Hurt and Sam Neill, oddly catches the essence of Gibsonian cyberpunk without the punk.
  
• Just about anything by Hayao Miyazaki but especially Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986) or Nausicaä (of the Valley of the Winds) (1984) (but not the god-awful Warriors of the Wind from 1986).

• The Shape of Things to Come (1936) based on the H.G. Wells novel of the same name.
  
• The Man in the White Suit (1951) speculative fiction with Sir Alec "Obi Wan" Guinness.
  
• The Fantastic Planet (1973) Psychadelic animated european sci-fi.
  
• Wizards (1977) Ralph Bakshi, 'nuff said.
  
• The Quiet Earth (1985) freaky end-of-the world stuff.
  
• Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure (1989) <simpsons voice="comic book guy">Best! Time-Travel! Movie! Ever! </simpsons>
  
• Until the End of the World (1991) with William Hurt and Sam Neill, oddly catches the essence of Gibsonian cyberpunk without the punk.
  
• Just about anything by Hayao Miyazaki but especially Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986) or Nausicaä (of the Valley of the Winds) (1984) (but not the god-awful Warriors of the Wind from 1986).

• The Shape of Things to Come (1936) based on the H.G. Wells novel of the same name.
  
• The Man in the White Suit (1951) speculative fiction with Sir Alec "Obi Wan" Guinness.
  
• The Fantastic Planet (1973) Psychadelic animated european sci-fi.
  
• Wizards (1977) Ralph Bakshi, 'nuff said.
  
• The Quiet Earth (1985) freaky end-of-the world stuff.
  
• Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure (1989) <simpsons voice="comic book guy">Best! Time-Travel! Movie! Ever! </simpsons>
  
• Until the End of the World (1991) with William Hurt and Sam Neill, oddly catches the essence of Gibsonian cyberpunk without the punk.
  
• Just about anything by Hayao Miyazaki but especially Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986) or Nausicaä (of the Valley of the Winds) (1984) (but not the god-awful Warriors of the Wind from 1986).

• The Shape of Things to Come (1936) based on the H.G. Wells novel of the same name.
  
• The Man in the White Suit (1951) speculative fiction with Sir Alec "Obi Wan" Guinness.
  
• The Fantastic Planet (1973) Psychadelic animated european sci-fi.
  
• Wizards (1977) Ralph Bakshi, 'nuff said.
  
• The Quiet Earth (1985) freaky end-of-the world stuff.
  
• Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure (1989) <simpsons voice="comic book guy">Best! Time-Travel! Movie! Ever! </simpsons>
  
• Until the End of the World (1991) with William Hurt and Sam Neill, oddly catches the essence of Gibsonian cyberpunk without the punk.
  
• Just about anything by Hayao Miyazaki but especially Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986) or Nausicaä (of the Valley of the Winds) (1984) (but not the god-awful Warriors of the Wind from 1986).

• The Shape of Things to Come (1936) based on the H.G. Wells novel of the same name.
  
• The Man in the White Suit (1951) speculative fiction with Sir Alec "Obi Wan" Guinness.
  
• The Fantastic Planet (1973) Psychadelic animated european sci-fi.
  
• Wizards (1977) Ralph Bakshi, 'nuff said.
  
• The Quiet Earth (1985) freaky end-of-the world stuff.
  
• Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure (1989) <simpsons voice="comic book guy">Best! Time-Travel! Movie! Ever! </simpsons>
  
• Until the End of the World (1991) with William Hurt and Sam Neill, oddly catches the essence of Gibsonian cyberpunk without the punk.
  
• Just about anything by Hayao Miyazaki but especially Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986) or Nausicaä (of the Valley of the Winds) (1984) (but not the god-awful Warriors of the Wind from 1986).

• The Shape of Things to Come (1936) based on the H.G. Wells novel of the same name.
  
• The Man in the White Suit (1951) speculative fiction with Sir Alec "Obi Wan" Guinness.
  
• The Fantastic Planet (1973) Psychadelic animated european sci-fi.
  
• Wizards (1977) Ralph Bakshi, 'nuff said.
  
• The Quiet Earth (1985) freaky end-of-the world stuff.
  
• Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure (1989) <simpsons voice="comic book guy">Best! Time-Travel! Movie! Ever! </simpsons>
  
• Until the End of the World (1991) with William Hurt and Sam Neill, oddly catches the essence of Gibsonian cyberpunk without the punk.
  
• Just about anything by Hayao Miyazaki but especially Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986) or Nausicaä (of the Valley of the Winds) (1984) (but not the god-awful Warriors of the Wind from 1986).

• The Shape of Things to Come (1936) based on the H.G. Wells novel of the same name.
  
• The Man in the White Suit (1951) speculative fiction with Sir Alec "Obi Wan" Guinness.
  
• The Fantastic Planet (1973) Psychadelic animated european sci-fi.
  
• Wizards (1977) Ralph Bakshi, 'nuff said.
  
• The Quiet Earth (1985) freaky end-of-the world stuff.
  
• Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure (1989) <simpsons voice="comic book guy">Best! Time-Travel! Movie! Ever! </simpsons>
  
• Until the End of the World (1991) with William Hurt and Sam Neill, oddly catches the essence of Gibsonian cyberpunk without the punk.
  
• Just about anything by Hayao Miyazaki but especially Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986) or Nausicaä (of the Valley of the Winds) (1984) (but not the god-awful Warriors of the Wind from 1986).

• The Shape of Things to Come (1936) based on the H.G. Wells novel of the same name.
  
• The Man in the White Suit (1951) speculative fiction with Sir Alec "Obi Wan" Guinness.
  
• The Fantastic Planet (1973) Psychadelic animated european sci-fi.
  
• Wizards (1977) Ralph Bakshi, 'nuff said.
  
• The Quiet Earth (1985) freaky end-of-the world stuff.
  
• Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure (1989) <simpsons voice="comic book guy">Best! Time-Travel! Movie! Ever! </simpsons>
  
• Until the End of the World (1991) with William Hurt and Sam Neill, oddly catches the essence of Gibsonian cyberpunk without the punk.
  
• Just about anything by Hayao Miyazaki but especially Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986) or Nausicaä (of the Valley of the Winds) (1984) (but not the god-awful Warriors of the Wind from 1986).

So, what you end up with are movies which are mostly pretty good, but have some questionable content which may or may not fit with the rest of the story or the intended audience in one small scene just to get the more mature rating.

Does anyone here know if this is true, or urban legend? The IMDB "Trivia" link alludes to this, but isn't specific.

Despite the awkward ending due to the death of Bela Lugosi, Plan 9 From Outer Space (1959) is a pretty good sci fi film.
Very underappreciated.

I classify maybe half the movies up there as sci-fi.

They certainly missed one excellent s.f. film: Brainstorm. It depicts realistic scientists doing realistic leading-edge science, and then focuses on the personal and social consequences of their invention.

That's what I liked about Takedown. But apparently everyone else on the planet hated specifically that. If you knew what was happening in that film you really got pissed there wasn't more technical detail. If you had no idea what was going on you really got pissed there was so much technical detail. Unfortunately there's more people in the second category than the first so most movies include no technical details.

Blockbuster says they don't censor films, but they do refuse to carry NC-17 films until the studio cuts them (Bad Lieutenant, Crash) to an R-rated "blockbuster version". Since Silence of the Lambs was originally R I don't see why they would request an edited version.

While it's not censorship, I do think what blockbuster does is deceitful because their customers are unaware that several of the videos there have had parts removed. If blockbuster doesn't like a movie they shouldn't carry it, instead of carrying edited copies.

Do not forget Pavel Klushantsev . No science fiction list is complete without Planeta Bur or Road to the Stars .

I had the pleasure of watching The Star Dreamer (documentary on Pavel, making science fiction films before in the soviet union) on australian sbs this year. If you can view this documentary or catch a copy of Planet of Storms or Planeta Bur you will be amazed at the Kubric like quality he acheives .... 15 years before Kubric!.

Do not forget Pavel Klushantsev . No science fiction list is complete without Planeta Bur or Road to the Stars .

I had the pleasure of watching The Star Dreamer (documentary on Pavel, making science fiction films before in the soviet union) on australian sbs this year. If you can view this documentary or catch a copy of Planet of Storms or Planeta Bur you will be amazed at the Kubric like quality he acheives .... 15 years before Kubric!.

between not seeing a heart being cutted out and missing let's say obscuring nudes, i choose the nudes.

I mean, who remembers movies like Fklesh & Blood?

I don't, but I sure as hell remember the 1985 remake - it had a naked Jennifer Jason Leigh in it!

I mean, who remembers movies like Fklesh & Blood?

I don't, but I sure as hell remember the 1985 remake - it had a naked Jennifer Jason Leigh in it!

You must've missed the TV series too. (one whole season!)

(not that you really 'missed' anything, but still...)

I agree with Bladerunner as the top pick, but I thought Brazil should have been in there (how can you pick Terminator over Brazil?). Oh well.

Tremors 4: The Legend Begins!

There!

Number two would be the 1951 version of The Thing. Bad acting from James Arness and bad monster makeup aside, Howard Hawk's direction of John Campbell's short story is great. Real human interplay. The ending broadcast is especially good.

Number two would be the 1951 version of The Thing. Bad acting from James Arness and bad monster makeup aside, Howard Hawk's direction of John Campbell's short story is great. Real human interplay. The ending broadcast is especially good.

Brainstorm.

THis listShowgirls with an NC-17 rating.

The dreamers is a good movie that unfortunately was laden with an NC-17 movie. The sex and nudity was integral to the story, but the rating killed the movie's exposure. Too bad.

At the ripe young age of 9, I remember being highly interested in the birth of the new rating, and began keeping track (purposes - yes, I'm a trivia geek, why do you ask?) of those first few PG-13 movies. Red Dawn was indeed the first released PG-13 film, but among the other first movies were Dreamscape (for violence) and Oxford Blues (for language and brief nudity) and The Woman In Red, all within a week of Red Dawn's release.

At the ripe young age of 9, I remember being highly interested in the birth of the new rating, and began keeping track (purposes - yes, I'm a trivia geek, why do you ask?) of those first few PG-13 movies. Red Dawn was indeed the first released PG-13 film, but among the other first movies were Dreamscape (for violence) and Oxford Blues (for language and brief nudity) and The Woman In Red, all within a week of Red Dawn's release.

At the ripe young age of 9, I remember being highly interested in the birth of the new rating, and began keeping track (purposes - yes, I'm a trivia geek, why do you ask?) of those first few PG-13 movies. Red Dawn was indeed the first released PG-13 film, but among the other first movies were Dreamscape (for violence) and Oxford Blues (for language and brief nudity) and The Woman In Red, all within a week of Red Dawn's release.

Amen ... One only has to look at Usual Suspects to see how succesful a quality low budget (6 million) film can really be on DVD. The format has allowed for sleeper hits like this one to truely thrive. Now with the advent and success of services like netflix the possiblities are truely being realized. The bottleneck was shifted from the movie theaters than can only show 1-10 movies, to the video rental stores that have between 100-500 movies, to the online rental services that currently have over 25,000 movies. I mean talk about an opportunity for independent film makers.

Here are a couple missing sci-fi films that should be considered. They were not exactly blockbusters, but they made for good sci-fi.

• Gattaca - This was a very interesting sci-fi that looks into the ramifications of cracking the genetic code. Can you get insurance or a good job if you have the wrong genes?
• Minority Report - An interesting view of future law enforcement and questions of infallibility.
• A.I. - While the last 20 minutes was suspect, the previous couple hours were quite good and offered an interesting look at the "humaness" of advanced robots.

I know I am forgetting a whole host of other options, but at least this is a start.

Here are a couple missing sci-fi films that should be considered. They were not exactly blockbusters, but they made for good sci-fi.

• Gattaca - This was a very interesting sci-fi that looks into the ramifications of cracking the genetic code. Can you get insurance or a good job if you have the wrong genes?
• Minority Report - An interesting view of future law enforcement and questions of infallibility.
• A.I. - While the last 20 minutes was suspect, the previous couple hours were quite good and offered an interesting look at the "humaness" of advanced robots.

I know I am forgetting a whole host of other options, but at least this is a start.

Here are a couple missing sci-fi films that should be considered. They were not exactly blockbusters, but they made for good sci-fi.

• Gattaca - This was a very interesting sci-fi that looks into the ramifications of cracking the genetic code. Can you get insurance or a good job if you have the wrong genes?
• Minority Report - An interesting view of future law enforcement and questions of infallibility.
• A.I. - While the last 20 minutes was suspect, the previous couple hours were quite good and offered an interesting look at the "humaness" of advanced robots.

I know I am forgetting a whole host of other options, but at least this is a start.

I loved Garden State and Lost in translation

I loved Garden State and Lost in translation