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We've interviewed a few musicians that use Planet CCRMA and Fedora when recording their music. One such artist is RachelAPP. You can read more at http://ind-music.com/index.php?option=com_content& task=view&id=74&Itemid=1 Support Open source and open music.

just on amarok mailing list possibilities of further integration have been asked about by representatives of two of such music stores :
http://www.ind-music.com/
http://www.mp3ninja.com/

(though looking at the second one it seems somewhat qeustionable ;) ).

this alone is far from "a lot", but given amarok's overall market share and publicity (relatively low), i am sure there are more (which would constitute a lot in the end ;) ).
i must admit, i am not bothered enough to search, though...

Well, I guess this demonstrates that you're at risk of being strongarmed not just if you obtain RIAA music, but also when you sell it. And, as we all know, it doesn't matter if you're doing it legally or illegally. All in name of the artists, even if they get just a tiny share of what the cartel charges for the music.

I've had enough.

We don't need the copyright cartel to handle distribution and go after the pirates anymore. We definitely don't need them to set the prices, pocket most of the revenue, and randomly sue anyone who comes into contact with the music.

So let's see a list of sites that distribute (for pay or for free) music outside of the cartel, directly on behalf of the artists. I'll only do business with sites that offer Ogg Vorbis files and that let me listen to the music before deciding if I want to buy it.

I'll start:

Music is Here!
Independent Music Online
On Classical

At the moment, we do not have song recommendations. However that is a feature that I personally would like see in the music store, and one that I will probably be adding to our queue of feature requests. Feel free to go to our forums at http://forums.ind-music.com/ and feel free to give suggestions for the site, or if there is anything else that you would like to see in the store. We need all of the feedback that we can get. Thanks,

Check out our music store then. We are an independent music store, where the artist sets the price for their music. We have free downloads, as well as music for sale. We provide free software and codecs for your computer system.

Our files are in the Ogg Vorbis format as well. Check us out.

http://ind-music.com/

yes, i don't think that paypal should get the money either!!! It should definitely go to a site like ind-music.com!! I'm a completely unbiased person who doesn't have ind-music.com in my homepage, post, and signature!!

yes, i don't think that paypal should get the money either!!! It should definitely go to a site like ind-music.com!! I'm a completely unbiased person who doesn't have ind-music.com in my homepage, post, and signature!!

yes, i don't think that paypal should get the money either!!! It should definitely go to a site like ind-music.com!! I'm a completely unbiased person who doesn't have ind-music.com in my homepage, post, and signature!!

yes, i don't think that paypal should get the money either!!! It should definitely go to a site like ind-music.com!! I'm a completely unbiased person who doesn't have ind-music.com in my homepage, post, and signature!!

Maybe instead of a band using paypal to help sell their music (where Paypal will get a significant chunk of the sale), maybe the bands should go to a site like Independent Music Online http://ind-music.com/ where the bands can make more money. This site has a payment plan set up that helps the bands earn more money, if more songs are purchased...check it out.

I used to roadie for an indy metal band a couple of years ago, and that experience introduced me to a few online methods of distribution.

First, here are some websites that might fit your bill:

Garage Band
Sound Click
Independent Music Online
And a list of other sites that might interest you: http://www.rmpmusic.com/

If you choose to use a third party website to promote your music, I and many others in my local music scene, still believe a web site dedicated to your band is the best idea. Offer full CD or near CD quality MP3 downloads of your best singles, demos, etc. Add a list of your gigs, news and updates relating to your band, perhaps a press kit full of print-sized logos, promo photos, and posters, in addition to a physical CD to send to record labels and credible review sites and mags. And also offer a way to buy your band's CD off the official website. Use something like PayPal for that. It's easy enough.

Good luck.

Q. Does a band/artist ever make more on the sale of their music?
A. Yes, when a band/artist sells more than 2,000 songs their earning % increases by 1%. So when you sign up, you make 40% of the net profit but after you eclipse 2,000 songs you then begin to earn 41% with the percentage increasing by 1% for every 2,000 songs. Eventually the band/artist can earn up to a maximum of 50% of net profit (by this point the band/artist is making MUCH more than we are, but they also will have earned it)

Q. Does a band/artist ever make more on the sale of their music?
A. Yes, when a band/artist sells more than 2,000 songs their earning % increases by 1%. So when you sign up, you make 40% of the net profit but after you eclipse 2,000 songs you then begin to earn 41% with the percentage increasing by 1% for every 2,000 songs. Eventually the band/artist can earn up to a maximum of 50% of net profit (by this point the band/artist is making MUCH more than we are, but they also will have earned it)

Don't forget about the upfront fees that cd baby charges to get your discs into their store house...it isn't as good of a deal as you may think...this place is better

http://ind-music.com/

Does Sun not get it? Open Source doesn't want any of that DRM crap. Look at this website I just found http://ind-music.com/ not only do they use Ogg Vorbis, but they don't use DRM and don't want any part of it

Right Here http://ind-music.com/ They offer "any" indie music artist or band the ability to sell their music, give away free music, and to sample music before you buy. The artist get 10 times as much per sale as the "main stream" artist and the site even pushes open source as it's run completely on OSS servers, apps, and web servers. They are truly trail blazers in the indie online music distribution stuff. So go check it out and support your indie bands!

I certainly agree, only buy music from sites that use non-DRM (ogg, flac, whatever) formats. I buy music from http://ind-music.com/ because it supports Independent Artist not on labels, the artist make a ton more money per song and it uses the wonderful ogg vorbis files which works on any OS or portable music player, no DRM included, doesn't get much better than that. Just my $0.02

I find it truly amazing that these labels think they can sue the BBC for playing music, that is in the public domain, that the Orchestra played for FREE and released for FREE.

What right do the labels have to do that? Can I then be sued by Toyota because I chose to buy a Ford car instead? This is absolutely ridiculous, truly it is the "stupidest lawsuit since the world began".

Take our website http://ind-music.com/ for instance, we have FREE music on our site as well, does that mean that the RIAA can sue us for unfair competition? How about the fact that the Artist sets the price for their music, can the RIAA sue us for giving the Artist too much freedom to choose what to do with THEIR music?

When does it end.
See my sig for details.

Sorry, but I totally have to disagree with you. I have heard some really good Independent Music since this site has been up and running, now granted we are in Nashville and I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but I have heard a lot of really good indie music, take Benjamin Olson http://music-store.ind-music.com/store.php?action= store_items&search=Benjamin Olson
and Tim Tibbitts http://music-store.ind-music.com/store.php?action= store_items&search=Tim Tibbitts
for instance, they are both Singer/Songwriters and I personally think they are good songwriters, now granted that style isn't my preferred choice of music, but I can respect it. Another band on the site is August Christopher http://music-store.ind-music.com/store.php?action= store_items&search=August
, they are a Pop Rock band, and they have some really good hooks too. It's really a matter of people thinking outside of the box, and trying to move past the MTV tells me what is cool phase.

Whether we like it or not, the internet is changing the way that music is distributed. Pretty soon, bands are going to wise up and realize that they don't have to sell their soul to "the Industry", just to get their music out.

Sorry, but I totally have to disagree with you. I have heard some really good Independent Music since this site has been up and running, now granted we are in Nashville and I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but I have heard a lot of really good indie music, take Benjamin Olson http://music-store.ind-music.com/store.php?action= store_items&search=Benjamin Olson
and Tim Tibbitts http://music-store.ind-music.com/store.php?action= store_items&search=Tim Tibbitts
for instance, they are both Singer/Songwriters and I personally think they are good songwriters, now granted that style isn't my preferred choice of music, but I can respect it. Another band on the site is August Christopher http://music-store.ind-music.com/store.php?action= store_items&search=August
, they are a Pop Rock band, and they have some really good hooks too. It's really a matter of people thinking outside of the box, and trying to move past the MTV tells me what is cool phase.

Whether we like it or not, the internet is changing the way that music is distributed. Pretty soon, bands are going to wise up and realize that they don't have to sell their soul to "the Industry", just to get their music out.

Sorry, but I totally have to disagree with you. I have heard some really good Independent Music since this site has been up and running, now granted we are in Nashville and I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but I have heard a lot of really good indie music, take Benjamin Olson http://music-store.ind-music.com/store.php?action= store_items&search=Benjamin Olson
and Tim Tibbitts http://music-store.ind-music.com/store.php?action= store_items&search=Tim Tibbitts
for instance, they are both Singer/Songwriters and I personally think they are good songwriters, now granted that style isn't my preferred choice of music, but I can respect it. Another band on the site is August Christopher http://music-store.ind-music.com/store.php?action= store_items&search=August
, they are a Pop Rock band, and they have some really good hooks too. It's really a matter of people thinking outside of the box, and trying to move past the MTV tells me what is cool phase.

Whether we like it or not, the internet is changing the way that music is distributed. Pretty soon, bands are going to wise up and realize that they don't have to sell their soul to "the Industry", just to get their music out.

My Online Music http://www.ind-music.com/ store is for all Indie Artists, part time or full time. We don't discriminate based on "what sells". We don't have use DRM, nor do we rip off the artist of everything they make. In fact we even provide open source utilites and programs for both artists and buyers to use. The only recommendation that we make is for them to use WinAmp to listen to their music, since it plays Ogg Vorbis files by default.

When an artist sells a song, they get 40% of the net sale (less paypal fee), and as they sell more downloads, their % increases to an eventual 50/50 split.

I started this in retaliation to the RIAA and the stupid world of corporate music. I want it to be a situation where the artist has more control of their music, and the buyers have more control over what they purchase. Their are no middle men here (other than paypal for transactions), so the artist makes their money, and a lot more of it, when compared to other online services.

Well, the web hasn't been totally utilized as an asset for bands, in fact many underestimate the power of it. For years i had my bands music up on sites like Angelfire back in the mid 90's. Now in the world of broadband, I decided to start my own online Music Store http://ind-music.com/ because I wanted a way in which I could sell my music online, and still be able to make some money. At this point, we have over 20+ bands that have signed up, and we also work to get them gigs here in Nashville as well as feature them in commercials for our site on local radio stations. The artist doesn't get charged for it. The site takes a commission on the song sold, but the numbers work out so that the artist makes more per song sold, than they do on other competing sites. They set the price for their songs and the bands also earn more money as they sell more downloads. Best of all the accounts are free, and when someone purchases a song, it stays in their account for two years. None of this 90 day expiring DRM stuff. Also, the band doesn't have to give away their creative freedom. They can make the music that they want, without fear of being dropped. The bands choose when they want to close their accounts. We really try to do as much for the artist as possible. I am as frustrated with the Recording Industry as the next person. That is why I created my own.

To develop a Linux iTunes would mean using Ogg Vorbis as downloads, no DRM, and should probably only run from a bunch of Linux powered servers. Well heck, one is already out there. Keep in mind that it's not for mainstream artist, but for Independent Music artist that have no ties to the Recording Industry Labels. If sites such as this can get more community support, all the news about DRM woes will be laughed away by the rest. Take a look for yourself, it's just waiting for the world to find it. http://ind-music.com/ Enjoy All!

That's why artist should use sites like this one -- http://ind-music.com/ where exactly this can happen and does on a daily basis. Until sites like this and others catch on, expect the music industry to remain as soul collectors.

I understand the whole issue with "Piracy" but what I don't understand is why they are suing for large quantities of money. Sure they can make an example out of someone, but does that really stem the tide...or does it stir the pot. Think back to when the RIAA sued the dead woman...here's the link for it (if it still works) http://forums.ind-music.com/viewtopic.php?t=24

Isn't it retarded that we have to crack DRM anyway? I also find it highly amusing that most of the artists that cry about losing money due to file sharing are bands that already have millions, such as Metallisuck, or Metallica rather. Support indie bands!http://www.ind-music.com/

Another option would be to support artists and Music Stores that support indie bands/artists. Sites like http://www.ind-music.com/ have no DRM restrictions, and they use the Open Source Ogg Vorbis file format. Plus the musicians actually MAKE money on the music they sell.

Well, there are sites out there such as http://www.ind-music.com/ that allow Indie Artists to upload and sell there music. The accounts are free to join. The site does take a commission, but the artists earns more as they sell more songs. I think CC is a great place, but really unless you are an established act, you really don't stand a chance.

Well, as was stated above, in order to play mp3's just install it onto XMMS through the YUM command, or look for other sites that use open source formats such as Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. There are a couple of Indie Music sites out there that support that format, such as http://www.ind-music.com/ mp3 format is a proprietary format anyway and Red Hat would have to pay Royalties to the developers of it, before they could use that format for any of the players on there distro, or rather, the makers of the programs would have to pay the license fees to Red Hat, who in turn pays the owner. Make sense?

If you feel the RIAA has done you injustice, support Independent Bands/Artist or buy music that is only in DRM Free formats like Ogg Vorbis, etc from sites like these: http://ind-music.com/ or http://www.cdbaby.com/ As long as people buy it and don't pay attention to what the software or music files are doing, they (RIAA) will keep doing what they do.